InsatiableCream said: it's always some kind of conspiracy theory with you guys isn't it? yikes. | |
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MuthaFunka said: Vendetta1 said: Yeah, racism is totally made up.
Just a figment of our imagination. in this case it is. especially when there's no racism to be found. | |
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JustErin said: InsatiableCream said: it's always some kind of conspiracy theory with you guys isn't it? yikes. You guys? Is that like..uh..you people? WOW "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said: JustErin said: yikes. You guys? Is that like..uh..you people? WOW Yeah, but "there's no racism to be found." | |
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InsatiableCream said: MuthaFunka said: Just a figment of our imagination. in this case it is. especially when there's no racism to be found. I love it when people show up with absolutely nothing to back up their claim(s) - So, tell "you guys" how it's NOT racism? [MF checks his watch KNOWING he won't get a response because this person has absolutely no ammo to back up his claim ] nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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SCNDLS said: noimageatall said: You guys? Is that like..uh..you people? WOW Yeah, but "there's no racism to be found." No, I think he meant to say "That one". nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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noimageatall said: JustErin said: yikes. You guys? Is that like..uh..you people? WOW mm yeah. even though i clearly meant the group of people in this thread who are taking something out of nothing. | |
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InsatiableCream said: noimageatall said: You guys? Is that like..uh..you people? WOW mm yeah. even though i clearly meant the group of people in this thread who are taking something out of nothing. But of COURSE you did. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: InsatiableCream said: mm yeah. even though i clearly meant the group of people in this thread who are taking something out of nothing. But of COURSE you did. yes. yes i did. | |
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InsatiableCream said: MuthaFunka said: But of COURSE you did. yes. yes i did. Right. Got it. I believe you. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: InsatiableCream said: yes. yes i did. Right. Got it. I believe you. | |
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And yet STILL no response from any of the detractors about this:
The NAACP Hollywood Bureau has announced its latest findings in a new report titled "Out of Focus, Out of Sync—Take 4" that shows the entertainment industry, particularly television, continues to fall seriously short in achieving diversity. NAACP officials warned that without quick action to reverse the bleak statistics cited in the 40-page report, the industry could face political action.
"At a time when the country is excited about the election of the first African-American president in U.S. history, it is unthinkable that minorities would be so grossly under-represented on broadcast television," said NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. "Perpetrating the situation is the fact that the few African Americans in higher positions in that industry lack power to green light new series' or make final creative decisions, which has translated into a critical lack of primetime programming by, for, or about people of color," said NAACP Hollywood Bureau Executive Director Vicangelo Bulluck. The "Take 4" report cites statistics that show an ongoing trend where African Americans and other minorities continue to be under-represented in nearly every aspect of television and film businesses, while largely being denied access to significant positions of power in Hollywood. Specifically, the report reveals that employment and promotion opportunities for minorities are directly tied to highly subjective practices, a closed roster system and potentially discriminatory guild membership practices. The serious shortage of minority faces on primetime television can also be traced to the virtual disappearance of black programming since the merger of UPN and WB networks into The CW network, according to the report. To help remedy the situation, the report recommends the establishment of a task force comprised of network executives, educators and NAACP advocacy partners to update the Memorandum of Understanding between the networks and the NAACP and its coalition partners. The goal would be to create best practice standards throughout the industry. "The NAACP has a long history of working in partnership with the networks, studios, guilds, agencies and others to create substantive opportunities for people of color in front of and behind the camera," Bulluck added. For more information and to download a copy of the report, visit http://www.naacp.org. The NAACP's Hollywood Bureau opened in 2002 and focuses its efforts on holding the networks and studios accountable for advancing diversity on screen and behind the scenes. Founded in 1909, the NAACP is the nation's oldest and largest civil rights organization. Its members throughout the United States and the world are the premier advocates for civil rights in their communities, conducting voter mobilization and monitoring equal opportunity in the public and private sectors. I mean, NOT ONE RESPONSE to that article from those claiming we're "making this up". I wonder where they all went after that was posted? Well, if they ever want to return to try and debunk this report, they're MORE than welcome to. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: "...has translated into a critical lack of primetime programming by, for, or about people of color," said NAACP Hollywood Bureau Executive Director Vicangelo Bulluck.
What does primetime programming for people of color mean? | |
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MuthaFunka said: statistics that show an ongoing trend where African Americans and other minorities continue to be under-represented
If they were equally-represented, would they still be minorities? | |
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pandy, everyone is ignoring you | |
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ZombieKitten said: pandy, everyone is ignoring you
Especially the one who claims no one answers to him | |
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The NAAUP has announced its latest findings in a new report that shows beauty contests continue to fall seriously short in achieving diversity. Ugly people are sistematically excluded. | |
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MuthaFunka said: SCNDLS said: Yeah, but "there's no racism to be found." No, I think he meant to say "That one". All of the ABOVE. | |
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ZombieKitten said: pandy, everyone is ignoring you He's being ignored for a reason Charlotte. | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: No, I think he meant to say "That one". All of the ABOVE. Yep. On another note: And STILL no one steps to the plate to challenge the NAACP findings - but, oh, we're "making this all up" right? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Vendetta1 said: ZombieKitten said: pandy, everyone is ignoring you He's being ignored for a reason Charlotte.Exactly. No need to discuss anything with those that ALWAYS "claim" they don't know about American Racism yet are ALWAYS trying to get involved in the convo only to claim "I'm not from America, so I don't know about that". nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: All of the ABOVE. Yep. On another note: And STILL no one steps to the plate to challenge the NAACP findings - but, oh, we're "making this all up" right? When your ONLY goal is keep the negroes in check, u won't be addressing FACTS. | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Yep. On another note: And STILL no one steps to the plate to challenge the NAACP findings - but, oh, we're "making this all up" right? When your ONLY goal is keep the negroes in check, u won't be addressing FACTS. You know it. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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PANDURITO said: The NAAUP has announced its latest findings in a new report that shows beauty contests continue to fall seriously short in achieving diversity. Ugly people are sistematically excluded.
what does that stand for? just due to the content i suggest you like this... | |
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sweet said: PANDURITO said: The NAAUP has announced its latest findings in a new report that shows beauty contests continue to fall seriously short in achieving diversity. Ugly people are sistematically excluded.
what does that stand for? just | |
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: All of the ABOVE. Yep. On another note: And STILL no one steps to the plate to challenge the NAACP findings - but, oh, we're "making this all up" right? 1st, it's the NAACP, not the NAABP, there's a lot more colors on the rainbow. the NAACP also calls it a whiteout and not a blackout, it's you that puts the focus on black, which isn't the core of the issue (according to the NAACP). That said, I read the report with great interest. 40 pages is a little long, but I read it. What I read is that there are serious efforts from the 'industry' to employ more coloured people, both as a writer and as an actor. I live in a country that doesn't have an history like the US, but we only had our first coloured announcer last year. The 'equality' in sitcoms has only been considered since 5 years and we're still not there. I'm NOT turning this around, but how many of you and your friends consider taking up acting classes to become an actor ? How many consider writing to be cool ? Do you think there is a lot of supply of coloured writers ? It takes efforts from both sides to overcome this situation. I believe what the NAACP does, contributes to this. People crying Wolf and going back to square zero contribute jack shit imho. American racism existed and is a very dark page in (world) history, just like the holocaust (a little closer to my door) it is something that can not be forgotten or ignored, but we have to learn and join forces to overcome and make things better for everyone. | |
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BlueZebra said: MuthaFunka said: Yep. On another note: And STILL no one steps to the plate to challenge the NAACP findings - but, oh, we're "making this all up" right? 1st, it's the NAACP, not the NAABP, there's a lot more colors on the rainbow. the NAACP also calls it a whiteout and not a blackout, it's you that puts the focus on black, which isn't the core of the issue (according to the NAACP). That said, I read the report with great interest. 40 pages is a little long, but I read it. What I read is that there are serious efforts from the 'industry' to employ more coloured people, both as a writer and as an actor. I live in a country that doesn't have an history like the US, but we only had our first coloured announcer last year. The 'equality' in sitcoms has only been considered since 5 years and we're still not there. I'm NOT turning this around, but how many of you and your friends consider taking up acting classes to become an actor ? How many consider writing to be cool ? Do you think there is a lot of supply of coloured writers ? It takes efforts from both sides to overcome this situation. I believe what the NAACP does, contributes to this. People crying Wolf and going back to square zero contribute jack shit imho. American racism existed and is a very dark page in (world) history, just like the holocaust (a little closer to my door) it is something that can not be forgotten or ignored, but we have to learn and join forces to overcome and make things better for everyone. Good. I'm glad you were able to discern what NAACP stood for ? Now, what does that have to do with the FACTS presented in the report? Nothing. But I guess you felt the "need" to tell us that. Thanks. Now, for THIS ridiculous comment from you: I'm NOT turning this around, but how many of you and your friends consider taking up acting classes to become an actor ? How many consider writing to be cool ? Do you think there is a lot of supply of coloured writers ?
So you want those that are complaining to go out and just TAKE UP acting and writing? You think THAT'S the problem? LMAO! That's ridiculous. Again, it doesn't matter how many Black actors or Black writers there are IT'S STILL A RACIAL ISSUE. Numbers won't change that. Didn't the Black South Africans outnumber the White ones when Apartheid was in full effect? Yeah, how'd that work out for them? So you're "more Colored actors/writers" suggestion holds no water. Then you typed this: American racism existed and is a very dark page in (world) history
I got news for you, racism STILL exists. Maybe that's the problem with some people - they think it's IN THE PAST. But I do like that you HAVE tried to turn it around, even citing that the NAACP is CRYING WOLF and is PART OF THE PROBLEM. Yeah, that makes a TON of sense. What's really interesting though - you read the entire report and you STILL glossed over the fact that there are racist practices going on in Hollywood. Then again, after you just said "racism EXISTED" I shouldn't be surprised. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said:[quote] BlueZebra said: So you want those that are complaining to go out and just TAKE UP acting and writing? You think THAT'S the problem? LMAO! That's ridiculous. Again, it doesn't matter how many Black actors or Black writers there are IT'S STILL A RACIAL ISSUE. Numbers won't change that. Didn't the Black South Africans outnumber the White ones when Apartheid was in full effect? Yeah, how'd that work out for them? So you're "more Colored actors/writers" suggestion holds no water. Then you typed this: American racism existed and is a very dark page in (world) history
I got news for you, racism STILL exists. Maybe that's the problem with some people - they think it's IN THE PAST. But I do like that you HAVE tried to turn it around, even citing that the NAACP is CRYING WOLF and is PART OF THE PROBLEM. Yeah, that makes a TON of sense. What's really interesting though - you read the entire report and you STILL glossed over the fact that there are racist practices going on in Hollywood. Then again, after you just said "racism EXISTED" I shouldn't be surprised. I don't expect you to take up writing, I'd suggest reading first. I'll quote myself : I believe what the NAACP does, contributes to this. People crying Wolf and going back to square zero contribute jack shit imho.
That red, bold, thingy is a period. I don't think it says that the NAACP is crying wolf, does it ? I say that the NAACP is doing a helluva good job with putting pressure on the industry. you're right, there's nothing that can be done about this, let's not even try. | |
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BlueZebra said: I say that the NAACP is doing a helluva good job with putting pressure on the industry. Not really, this is the FOURTH time they've compiled the information and not much of anything has changed. The last time was 10 years ago and there was a brief spurt of more people of color being cast in roles on TV then the numbers declined again. | |
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SCNDLS said: BlueZebra said: I say that the NAACP is doing a helluva good job with putting pressure on the industry. Not really, this is the FOURTH time they've compiled the information and not much of anything has changed. The last time was 10 years ago and there was a brief spurt of more people of color being cast in roles on TV then the numbers declined again. So, what do you suggest should be done ? TV and movies is commerce, If there's forced scenario's just to reflect equality, nobody (neither coloured or white) will watch it, even more since TV series and movies are exported to other countries. I see Lost and out of 13 main characters I see 4 coloured persons. Would you watch more of Days of our lives or the bold and the beautiful if they inject coloured people just for the sake of it ? On the other hand, the music industry wouldn't be anywhere without coloured people. Take your billboard top 100 and remove all songs that are performed by coloured people OR that someone coloured contributed to ? Hell, you guys even have black news anchors. Hell will freeze over if we get that in Belgium | |
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