SCNDLS said:

I didn't say YOU!

Anywho... back on topic, anyone mention Don Cheale's lil' taunt about him not playing a role in the movie he introduced?
[Edited 1/13/09 10:02am]

paintedlady said:

Yeah, sure, you didn't have to say it. I know you're just trynta encourage Mutha in his attempts to sail my (re)virgin(ized) seas and get it on tape. You ain't right.

abierman said:

Yo! "I" wasn't the one trying to tell people which movies weren't good enough to be nominated!

And it's not so much of it being a down year as much as it is being the fact that Black filmmakers are scarcely recognized.

SCNDLS said:

I'ma need a Carnival Cruise ship to sail YO seas. ( )

MuthaFunka said:

In your case, a dinghy will prolly do the trick.

MuthaFunka said:

The REAL issue.

SCNDLS said:

Damn. See. I tell my homies all the time "You can NEVER really have a comeback from a 'lil dick' joke". That's fucked up.

Graycap23 said:

Yep.

MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:

It's true! What's a dude gonna say?: "Well, you have a big pussy"... That shit won't work! Because pussies don't really deviate in size as much as dicks do!

MuthaFunka said:

Well, uh, I have no. . . uh. . . first hand. . . uh. . . knowledge of that so . . .uh . . . I'll take your word for it.

Thread jackers.....

Graycap23 said:

Sorrreeeee, Gray!

It's Mutha and Painted's fault, as usual.

SCNDLS said:

Well that explains it. Can't remeber if Denzel's movie got props at the GGs in the appropriate year

But I still don't think there HAS to be a black nominee all the freakin time b/c then it just becomes an issue of tokenism. Its not about being VERY COOL with there NOT being a Black nominee but rather NOT BEING VERY COOL with just any ole shit being nominated just to pacify black people. I mean if its all about acknowledging a black project at a popular awards ceremoney then SOUL PLANE should have received a GG nod way back for best picture comedy! Its still primarily up to the black writers, directors and producers to put out quality product and fight for it to be recgonized. And might I add there was enuf black for me with all those chocolate indians representing slum dog millionaire. That's right...black asians still count as an underepresented minority in hollywood and they added some lovely color to the GG night.

SCNDLS said:

Suuuure you don't...

Graycap23 said:

Sorry, Deuce3zy! You just be havin' the most jackable threads, that's all.

SCNDLS said:

Ain't THAT a bitch.

DesireeNevermind said:

And again, it's not that there HAS to be one every year but it's the LACK of representation that happens VERY OFTEN. And again, there ARE Black writers and producers coming up with quality product, but they aren't in the position to greenlight those quality projects. THAT'S the biggest issue.

MuthaFunka said:

ok, please come with some examples.....

I haven't seen Don Cheadle's (an actor who ALWAYS delivers!) 'Traitor' yet, and that was his only movie in 2008.....

DesireeNevermind said:

For me it's not about tokenism it's about the continuation and perpetuation of a neverending cycle in Hollywood and it also goes beyond just casting black actors in black films by black directors. Black people and other minorities are EVERYWHERE in life but you wouldn't know that from MOST films. The cycle will not be broken as long as there are not more individuals of color that greenlight projects and make decisions at major studios AND until current directors/producers at least CONSIDER casting people of color in their movies. Case in point, Woody Allen has made countless movies based in NYC with nary a character of color. How real is that??? In short, if we don't get cast in hardly in any movies how can we ever be nominated?

MuthaFunka said:

lol.....this is a serious topic.

DesireeNevermind said:

Why does it have 2 be a black project? That is a part of the problem right there. Blacks are EVERYWHERE.

MuthaFunka said:

I can't hep it if ya'll unruly an' shit!

SCNDLS said:

But isn't that finally changing? Imean didn't Tyler Perry finally open his own studio? If you got the money then make shit happen cuz that's what it boils down to...MONEY! Successful black film makers should be banning together to build studio lots, movie theaters etc.

As for Woody Allen, i mean come on. You really expect THAT DUDE to make films with characters of color. The city is irrelevant- he aint the one and never would be. Casting is a big issue cuz again...not enuf black writers, directors and producers stepping up to the plate to provide opportunity for black actors and thus the whole lack of recognition deal begins. I mean to me its just about not waiting around for someone else to do what one can do for themselves as far as the film industry goes anyway.

abierman said:

The examples are what I just said - the problem is the trend of being basically "locked-out" every awards season.

Graycap23 said:

Ain't it?

SCNDLS said:

Viola Davis was nominated.

Blair Underwood was nominated.

Raisin In The sun was nominated.

Beyonce was nominated

and in other diverse news:

ugly betty girl gets nominated.

penelope cruz gets nominated.

javier bardem gets nominated.

an Indian wins for best score...

Slumdog Millionaire wins best picture...

and same shit on the org, different year, same shit. :eyeroll:

DesireeNevermind said:

I'm tired of people bringing up Tyler Perry. He's got peanuts in comparison to major studios not to mention his material is sub-standard IMO to say the least. I'll change my mind on how much of an impact he'll have IF one of his projects ever gets nominated for a major award OR if he's still around in 10 years. Major studios, have and generate major dollars and reach a far wider audience than a Tyler Perry. So, it's not the same thing. If I were a black actor I would balk at being relegated ONLY to "black" projects because usually it's less prestigious, less money, lesser quality material. In this case, separate is NOT equal. I'm all for doing your own thing but that does NOT excuse being excluded from a seat at the grownups table.

sosgemini said:

Right on SOS! You took the words right out of my mouth.