horatio said: JasmineFire said: Caffeine actually enhances motor skills and mental functioning, especially in mathematics. It does also contribute to heart palpitations and the like. It's also been proven that the tryptophan in turkey doesn't cause significant drowsiness...it's usually the heavy Thanksgiving meal that's the true culprit. I've never heard of anyone being pulled over for driving under the influence of turkey. Chocolate does enhance mood but I wouldn't go as far as calling it an euphoria-like high. I think that would take a very very large amount of chocolate. I understand what you're trying to say but your examples are a bit off. I also understand what Teacher is trying to say. I've read many of Teacher's past threads about her life and I feel like I understand where she's coming from as well. She has a good point. that doesnt mean one persons experience should chastise everyone else from having their own. did i say that? all i mean is that i think i understand where Teacher is coming from and that she does have a good point. A point to be taken in consideration. It doesn't mean you have to agree with her. | |
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JasmineFire said: meow85 said: Alcohol abuse kills people and destroys lives every day. Do you ever drink? Caffeine abuse impairs mental functioning, motor skills, and causes high blood pressure and heart palpitations. Do you drink coffee, tea, or soda/pop? Chocolate produces a euphoria-like high, and foods like turkey cause drowsiness making driving, among other activities, dangerous after a point. Do you abstain from all of these? If so, kudos to you for standing by your principles. If not, take a look at what you've just said about "addictive substances" and see if you don't want to revise your position a little. It's not as black and white as you seem to want to believe. The point is, overuse or abuse of just about any substance can be dangerous, not just those substances Nancy Reagan and a horde of cartoon characters commanded us all to Just Say No to. But just like not everyone who drinks is a gin-soaked lush, the majority of people who smoke pot are not perma-fried brain damaged druggies. Caffeine actually enhances motor skills and mental functioning, especially in mathematics. It does also contribute to heart palpitations and the like. It's also been proven that the tryptophan in turkey doesn't cause significant drowsiness...it's usually the heavy Thanksgiving meal that's the true culprit. I've never heard of anyone being pulled over for driving under the influence of turkey. Chocolate does enhance mood but I wouldn't go as far as calling it an euphoria-like high. I think that would take a very very large amount of chocolate. I understand what you're trying to say but your examples are a bit off. I also understand what Teacher is trying to say. I've read many of Teacher's past threads about her life and I feel like I understand where she's coming from as well. She has a good point. My examples were referring to abuse of each substance, not regular consumption. Overuse of caffeine does interfere with motor skills. Ever try to write a letter with coffee-induced shakes? Chemicals in chocolate have been shown to affect the same pleasure centers in the brain as are affected by THC. Teacher's point is only valid as far as applies to people who abuse substances. She's painting the picture as if just the teeniest little inhale will turn a person into a comatose deviant waste of space. That's hardly what's going on. I understand the pain of having to see a friend come to harm because of drug use -believe me, I do -but denouncing marijuana, and by extension (since this is the thread's topic) an entire subculture because of it as stupid or lazy is overly simplistic. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Teacher said: horatio said: that doesnt mean one persons experience should chastise everyone else from having their own. You presume I give a fuck what others do - I don't, if they want to drug themselves they can do it, but I won't help - neither to approve, enable or treat. People don't need my approval, meow asked what people have against hippies and I said. Easy. No, you didn't. You started ranting half-truths and exagerrations about drugs. But what you have done is provide an excellent example for the question above I had a hard time elaborating on. Thank you for that. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: JasmineFire said: Caffeine actually enhances motor skills and mental functioning, especially in mathematics. It does also contribute to heart palpitations and the like. It's also been proven that the tryptophan in turkey doesn't cause significant drowsiness...it's usually the heavy Thanksgiving meal that's the true culprit. I've never heard of anyone being pulled over for driving under the influence of turkey. Chocolate does enhance mood but I wouldn't go as far as calling it an euphoria-like high. I think that would take a very very large amount of chocolate. I understand what you're trying to say but your examples are a bit off. I also understand what Teacher is trying to say. I've read many of Teacher's past threads about her life and I feel like I understand where she's coming from as well. She has a good point. My examples were referring to abuse of each substance, not regular consumption. Overuse of caffeine does interfere with motor skills. Ever try to write a letter with coffee-induced shakes? Chemicals in chocolate have been shown to affect the same pleasure centers in the brain as are affected by THC. Teacher's point is only valid as far as applies to people who abuse substances. She's painting the picture as if just the teeniest little inhale will turn a person into a comatose deviant waste of space. That's hardly what's going on. I understand the pain of having to see a friend come to harm because of drug use -believe me, I do -but denouncing marijuana, and by extension (since this is the thread's topic) an entire subculture because of it as stupid or lazy is overly simplistic. I've never had caffeine induced shakes. Excessive use of caffeine can cause a host of problems, though. and i agree with your about chocolate being a mood enhancer, but a euphoria like high is pushing it. I do know that chocolate affects the same "pleasure center" as sex does, at least in women, but I think that sex, at least good sex, causes much more euphoria. I don't know about chocolate and THC. Anyway, Teacher has stated her point and it is an interesting one. | |
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JasmineFire said: meow85 said: My examples were referring to abuse of each substance, not regular consumption. Overuse of caffeine does interfere with motor skills. Ever try to write a letter with coffee-induced shakes? Chemicals in chocolate have been shown to affect the same pleasure centers in the brain as are affected by THC. Teacher's point is only valid as far as applies to people who abuse substances. She's painting the picture as if just the teeniest little inhale will turn a person into a comatose deviant waste of space. That's hardly what's going on. I understand the pain of having to see a friend come to harm because of drug use -believe me, I do -but denouncing marijuana, and by extension (since this is the thread's topic) an entire subculture because of it as stupid or lazy is overly simplistic. I've never had caffeine induced shakes. Excessive use of caffeine can cause a host of problems, though. and i agree with your about chocolate being a mood enhancer, but a euphoria like high is pushing it. I do know that chocolate affects the same "pleasure center" as sex does, at least in women, but I think that sex, at least good sex, causes much more euphoria. I don't know about chocolate and THC. Anyway, Teacher has stated her point and it is an interesting one. Overdo it on coffee one day, and you'll see it happen. Of course, everyone has different tolerance levels for caffeine, but I guarantee you there's a point where you can't keep your hands steady. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: JasmineFire said: I've never had caffeine induced shakes. Excessive use of caffeine can cause a host of problems, though. and i agree with your about chocolate being a mood enhancer, but a euphoria like high is pushing it. I do know that chocolate affects the same "pleasure center" as sex does, at least in women, but I think that sex, at least good sex, causes much more euphoria. I don't know about chocolate and THC. Anyway, Teacher has stated her point and it is an interesting one. Overdo it on coffee one day, and you'll see it happen. Of course, everyone has different tolerance levels for caffeine, but I guarantee you there's a point where you can't keep your hands steady. i hate coffee but i adore tea. i think that i just get sick of caffeine before i start to get the shakes. there comes a point where i really don't want any more caffeine, i just want to sleep. | |
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I think everybody in the P&R should smoke pot before they're allowed to post. | |
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Teacher said: horatio said: that doesnt mean one persons experience should chastise everyone else from having their own. You presume I give a fuck what others do - I don't, if they want to drug themselves they can do it, but I won't help - neither to approve, enable or treat. People don't need my approval, meow asked what people have against hippies and I said. Easy. fuckary! | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: I think everybody in the P&R should smoke pot before they're allowed to post.
i'll take a hit then pass it to Teacher | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: I think everybody in the P&R should smoke pot before they're allowed to post.
It'd certainly cut down on a lot of the meanness over there. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Imago said: armpit hair
Geez Imago nealy every female I have come across with armpit hair are NOT hippies I went to a BBQ at one of my brohters on boxing day and there was a woman and her husband there that are good frinds with my brother. Anyway she changed ito some swimwear to jump into the pool with the kids and when she got out she was standing near me and lifted her arms ..... man u could have braided the hair in her pits [Edited 1/10/09 16:29pm] PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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meow85 said: JustErin said: Did/do 'hippies' generally work?
People take issue with others that do not work. Like I said, I have never known a hippie who didn't work, or bathe for that matter, and I was born and raised by them, and now most of my friends are 2nd- and 3rd-generation hippies. FYI, folks, tree planting counts as work. If you have to pay taxes on it, it's work. As for that self-righteous thing? There are self-important "socially forward" types in every group. Seems to me a lot of people have made up their minds about people they don't actually interact with, but they've done a wonderful job of illustrating my point in starting this thread. Way to go, guys. I asked a fucking question. | |
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Why do people hate the Jews? | |
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PANDURITO said: They smell bad
Yeah...that pretty much sums it up there. I really relate to the hippie lifestyle...love their philosophy about good karma, and being close to nature. BUT I draw the line when it comes to their hygine. Also, can't go veggie...I love burgers too much. I have a lot of dear hippie friends...but damn they really need to take a bath more often. They downright stink! | |
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JustErin said: meow85 said: Like I said, I have never known a hippie who didn't work, or bathe for that matter, and I was born and raised by them, and now most of my friends are 2nd- and 3rd-generation hippies. FYI, folks, tree planting counts as work. If you have to pay taxes on it, it's work. As for that self-righteous thing? There are self-important "socially forward" types in every group. Seems to me a lot of people have made up their minds about people they don't actually interact with, but they've done a wonderful job of illustrating my point in starting this thread. Way to go, guys. I asked a fucking question. I thought I answered. You asked if hippies generally work, I said I've never known one that doesn't. That wasn't an answer? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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First of all, stoner doesn't equal hippy.
They can cross over like anything, but it's not what it's all about at all! The hippies I know are worldly, wise, clean, interesting, caring, creative and peaceful. Awesome people! _ Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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nd33 said: First of all, stoner doesn't equal hippy.
They can cross over like anything, but it's not what it's all about at all! The hippies I know are worldly, wise, clean, interesting, caring, creative and peaceful. Awesome people! _ And there we go. Can we take this thread back on topic now, folks? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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ArielB said: Why do people hate the Jews?
Why do people hate the Muslims? | |
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Harlepolis said: ArielB said: Why do people hate the Jews?
Why do people hate the Muslims? Why do people hate Coke? | |
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ArielB said: Harlepolis said: Why do people hate the Muslims? Why do people hate Coke? Why do people hate staying on topic? PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: ArielB said: Why do people hate Coke? Why do people hate staying on topic? It's still on topic. It's about people hating. | |
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ArielB said: chillichocaholic said: Why do people hate staying on topic? It's still on topic. It's about people hating. Tis not she said "What do people have against hippies?" Not "Why do people HATE hippies" PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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ArielB said: Why do people hate the Jews?
I don't | |
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kpowers said: ArielB said: Why do people hate the Jews?
I don't And I have nothing against the hippies. Case closed. Lock the thread | |
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this goes out to all hippie-haters because HIPPIES ARE PEOPLE TOO YOU KNOW!!!!
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Here's an intersting documentary from History Channel about Hippies:
http://video.google.com/v...1914630046 I gotta warn you though, its abit judgemental and one-dimensional. Still intersting, never the less. | |
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Somebody please. Make a new fucking cause. Quick. | |
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Imago said: armpit hair
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ThreadBare said: Imago said: armpit hair
you don't have to be a hippy to have that | |
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ZombieKitten said: ThreadBare said: you don't have to be a hippy to have that I know. | |
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