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PrintableImago said: meow85 said: The Lars and the Real Girl pic has already been posted, so I guess I can skip that reference.
Any of you Joss Whedon fans remember that episode of Buffy where Spike had Warren build him a Buffybot? Same idea, but his doll moved and spoke. The Real Doll thing is creepy, for sure. But it's also sort of sad IMO. Something has gone wrong in these guy's lives that they're either not capable of finding a partner, or not confident/stable enough to try. Every one of them kept bringing up the alternative -loneliness. I feel bad for them. Different people react differently to loneliness I guess. I've seen people sit down and have entire coversations with themselves. And these aren't people suffering from schizophrenia or dementia, but just from loneliness. It reminds me of the scenes from I am Legend where, aside from talking to his dog like it was human, Will Smith's character set mannequins up in a video store to deal with his own isolation and loneliness. Or where Tom Hanks started talking to "Wilson", his basket ball. When the reality of loneliness kicks in, imagination fills that void. The human spirit tries to cope. So I understand that. But the problem I have with most of these men is that, like the sexy and newly returned Sirpycho said, these men devalue themselves so much to the point that they think they have nothing to offer a woman. The British guy was rather attractive (to me). And all of them, given the right attitude, could find a woman--maybe not one with the same perfect proportions of their dolls, but certain a woman who could help fill that void for them. The most disturbing thing about the series to me is that they seemed to blame women for their loneliness. That women put them in this position. If it was just mere loneliness, they could log on to any one of dozens of websites for Rushian or Asian brides. They could easily have real, human, companionship for what it cost for one of those dolls. But it's not just loneliness that drives this strange behavior I don't think. I think it's combined with an overall fear of intimacy, a feeling of inadequacy, and in some cases a 'fettish' that isn't compatible with normal societal norms. Whips, chains, even rubber/latex and dungeon fettishes are "kinky", but they're mainstream enough that most people know that folks around them may have these. But wanting to fuck a life sized rubber doll takes it to a whole new level, and I'd imagine somebody having that fettish couldn't easily talk about it with friends or work mates. 
Lastly, aside from loneliness, I think some of these men have very low opinions of women. I mean if you'd rather fuck a doll cause you think women are vain, picky, creatures, that says more about you than it does about women. These guys are fooling themselves. There are panty droppers around every corner of this great Universe--you just need the right attitude and haircut.  hey! i got mentioned! ()
but yeah man...i absolutely believe there's someone for everyone, and half the battle is having power over your own mind/fears... seeing grown men like this makes me wanna cry, cuz it offers you almost no return...the only person who can (powerfully) complain would be your girlfriend, and by that point you're like "you know what? screw you bitch, i got dolls to fuck i dont need this shyit!"  ....i mean even with dude at the end who had a girl, (btw, i thought her "i need a beer" line was hilarious) she ended up bouncing a week later...and his dumb ass prob said "good riddens!! i'll be fine!" 
seriously guys, i like to masturbate as much as the next guy and would prob fuck a lot of things to get off if it really came down to that, but uh.....there are WAY too many actual women in the world...and if people have successfuly found women who were cool with fucking dogs and elephants?.. its pretty damn hard for me to believe that i'm destined to live pussyless... *slow exhale* i feel home now  | |
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Imago said: meow85 said: The Lars and the Real Girl pic has already been posted, so I guess I can skip that reference.
Any of you Joss Whedon fans remember that episode of Buffy where Spike had Warren build him a Buffybot? Same idea, but his doll moved and spoke. The Real Doll thing is creepy, for sure. But it's also sort of sad IMO. Something has gone wrong in these guy's lives that they're either not capable of finding a partner, or not confident/stable enough to try. Every one of them kept bringing up the alternative -loneliness. I feel bad for them. Different people react differently to loneliness I guess. I've seen people sit down and have entire coversations with themselves. And these aren't people suffering from schizophrenia or dementia, but just from loneliness. It reminds me of the scenes from I am Legend where, aside from talking to his dog like it was human, Will Smith's character set mannequins up in a video store to deal with his own isolation and loneliness. Or where Tom Hanks started talking to "Wilson", his basket ball. When the reality of loneliness kicks in, imagination fills that void. The human spirit tries to cope. So I understand that. But the problem I have with most of these men is that, like the sexy and newly returned Sirpycho said, these men devalue themselves so much to the point that they think they have nothing to offer a woman. The British guy was rather attractive (to me). And all of them, given the right attitude, could find a woman--maybe not one with the same perfect proportions of their dolls, but certain a woman who could help fill that void for them. The most disturbing thing about the series to me is that they seemed to blame women for their loneliness. That women put them in this position. If it was just mere loneliness, they could log on to any one of dozens of websites for Rushian or Asian brides. They could easily have real, human, companionship for what it cost for one of those dolls. But it's not just loneliness that drives this strange behavior I don't think. I think it's combined with an overall fear of intimacy, a feeling of inadequacy, and in some cases a 'fettish' that isn't compatible with normal societal norms. Whips, chains, even rubber/latex and dungeon fettishes are "kinky", but they're mainstream enough that most people know that folks around them may have these. But wanting to fuck a life sized rubber doll takes it to a whole new level, and I'd imagine somebody having that fettish couldn't easily talk about it with friends or work mates.
Lastly, aside from loneliness, I think some of these men have very low opinions of women. I mean if you'd rather fuck a doll cause you think women are vain, picky, creatures, that says more about you than it does about women. These guys are fooling themselves. There are panty droppers around every corner of this great Universe--you just need the right attitude and haircut. 
Have U ever been so lonely That U felt like U were the Only one in this world? Have U ever wanted 2 play With someone so much U'd take Any one boy or girl? Anna Stesia come 2 me Talk 2 me, ravish me Liberate my mind Tell me what U think of me Praise me, craze me Out this space and time | |
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Imago said: tackam said: You're not saying you're NOT ordering a Realdoll.
Hooray for a strange and interesting life. 
[Edited 1/11/09 9:44am] Is that wax statue spose to be who I think it is???  I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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SirPsycho said: hey! i got mentioned! ()
but yeah man...i absolutely believe there's someone for everyone, and half the battle is having power over your own mind/fears... seeing grown men like this makes me wanna cry, cuz it offers you almost no return...the only person who can (powerfully) complain would be your girlfriend, and by that point you're like "you know what? screw you bitch, i got dolls to fuck i dont need this shyit!" ....i mean even with dude at the end who had a girl, (btw, i thought her "i need a beer" line was hilarious) she ended up bouncing a week later...and his dumb ass prob said "good riddens!! i'll be fine!"
seriously guys, i like to masturbate as much as the next guy and would prob fuck a lot of things to get off if it really came down to that, but uh.....there are WAY too many actual women in the world...and if people have successfuly found women who were cool with fucking dogs and elephants?.. its pretty damn hard for me to believe that i'm destined to live pussyless... *slow exhale* i feel home now
What does it say about the state of our society when there are men who consider an inanimate object to not only be a suitable replacement for a real women, but an improvement?
The me, the answer seems obvious: we have pushed so hard the notion that the ideal woman is an object of physical perfection and non-personhood, that now we are seeing the ultimate expression of that ideal in the form of "women" who are no longer even people. She can't move. She can't argue. She can't disapprove. She can't have opinions of her own or express herself, because there's nothing to express. Her body will never change from the cold (literally and figuratively), unattainable ideal it is now. She cannot love or hate or converse or dream, she has no needs or desires, no talents or aspirations. She cannot challenge you or support you, nor can you do either of these for her. She is every bit as human as your sofa. And to some men...she's perfect. Am I the only one who thinks there might be something wrong with that? http://www.associatedcont...e=2&cat=41 "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said:[quote] SirPsycho said: What does it say about the state of our society when there are men who consider an inanimate object to not only be a suitable replacement for a real women, but an improvement?
The me, the answer seems obvious: we have pushed so hard the notion that the ideal woman is an object of physical perfection and non-personhood, that now we are seeing the ultimate expression of that ideal in the form of "women" who are no longer even people. She can't move. She can't argue. She can't disapprove. She can't have opinions of her own or express herself, because there's nothing to express. Her body will never change from the cold (literally and figuratively), unattainable ideal it is now. She cannot love or hate or converse or dream, she has no needs or desires, no talents or aspirations. She cannot challenge you or support you, nor can you do either of these for her. She is every bit as human as your sofa. And to some men...she's perfect. Am I the only one who thinks there might be something wrong with that? No, you're not...I definitely agree with the above statement...I've been married for 17 years...and started dating at the tender age of 13...so after almost 30 years of all the drama with girls/women, I can say without a single reservation that I'd rather the noise...the arguing...the interaction...all of the bad that comes with the good than something (because that doll is a THING) that does nothing.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot) the video for the above... 
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It seems to me that,even though these guys are talking about how they would like to be in a relationship with a REAL person. They seem to like having the control that the doll gives them. They get to decide what it wears,how it's make-up looks,where it is going to go,and what is going to be done to it. Like that one guy said "If I wake up with a raging hard on,all I have to do is go to the garage,grab a doll,throw it on the bed,and go at it.With a woman you have to ask,and then there is the chance of her saying no".  He's a real winner. and if they do ever find someone to be with,are they going to be so use to the life they have with these dolls,that they are going to try to be as controlling in that relationship? Are these dolls helping them to learn to be controlling?  [Edited 1/11/09 20:22pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Imago said: meow85 said: The Lars and the Real Girl pic has already been posted, so I guess I can skip that reference.
Any of you Joss Whedon fans remember that episode of Buffy where Spike had Warren build him a Buffybot? Same idea, but his doll moved and spoke. The Real Doll thing is creepy, for sure. But it's also sort of sad IMO. Something has gone wrong in these guy's lives that they're either not capable of finding a partner, or not confident/stable enough to try. Every one of them kept bringing up the alternative -loneliness. I feel bad for them. Different people react differently to loneliness I guess. I've seen people sit down and have entire coversations with themselves. And these aren't people suffering from schizophrenia or dementia, but just from loneliness. It reminds me of the scenes from I am Legend where, aside from talking to his dog like it was human, Will Smith's character set mannequins up in a video store to deal with his own isolation and loneliness. Or where Tom Hanks started talking to "Wilson", his basket ball. When the reality of loneliness kicks in, imagination fills that void. The human spirit tries to cope. So I understand that. But the problem I have with most of these men is that, like the sexy and newly returned Sirpycho said, these men devalue themselves so much to the point that they think they have nothing to offer a woman. The British guy was rather attractive (to me). And all of them, given the right attitude, could find a woman--maybe not one with the same perfect proportions of their dolls, but certain a woman who could help fill that void for them. The most disturbing thing about the series to me is that they seemed to blame women for their loneliness. That women put them in this position. If it was just mere loneliness, they could log on to any one of dozens of websites for Rushian or Asian brides. They could easily have real, human, companionship for what it cost for one of those dolls. But it's not just loneliness that drives this strange behavior I don't think. I think it's combined with an overall fear of intimacy, a feeling of inadequacy, and in some cases a 'fettish' that isn't compatible with normal societal norms. Whips, chains, even rubber/latex and dungeon fettishes are "kinky", but they're mainstream enough that most people know that folks around them may have these. But wanting to fuck a life sized rubber doll takes it to a whole new level, and I'd imagine somebody having that fettish couldn't easily talk about it with friends or work mates.
Lastly, aside from loneliness, I think some of these men have very low opinions of women. I mean if you'd rather fuck a doll cause you think women are vain, picky, creatures, that says more about you than it does about women. These guys are fooling themselves. There are panty droppers around every corner of this great Universe--you just need the right attitude and haircut. Co-sign pretty much everything you said.
I agree there is more at work here than just loneliness, but whatever inadequecy or social awkwardness or misguided attitudes these guys have that's causing them to give up on, even shun, real live women doesn't negate how bad it feels to be lonely IMO. They may not have chosen the healthiest way to deal with those feelings, but it is what it is. I'm sure plenty of guys have these dolls and think of them as nothing more than realistic and highly-priced masturbation aids, but it does go a step too far when they begin to think of what they have with their several-thousand dollar piece of rubber as a relationship. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Imago said: OMG, I just realized how much thought I put into my last post
 It's okay. I forgive you.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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EmeraldSkies said: It seems to me that,even though these guys are talking about how they would like to be in a relationship with a REAL person. They seem to like having the control that the doll gives them. They get to decide what it wears,how it's make-up looks,where it is going to go,and what is going to be done to it. Like that one guy said "If I wake up with a raging hard on,all I have to do is go to the garage,grab a doll,throw it on the bed,and go at it.With a woman you have to ask,and then there is the chance of her saying no".
He's a real winner. and if they do ever find someone to be with,are they going to be so use to the life they have with these dolls,that they are going to try to be as controlling in that relationship? Are these dolls helping them to learn to be controlling?
[Edited 1/11/09 20:22pm] ok, you know what? I think this documentary is getting to you! | |
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 no.[Edited 1/11/09 20:39pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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I watched this when it aired on BBC, must have been a year ago or more. I was fucking speechless! Kept having to pause it  I felt so sorry for these bastards for exposing how truly pathetic they are That's about the best television ever made b/c I could not turn away for a single second - my jaw was on the floor damn near the whole time. I can't believe they allowed that shit to be filmed, & it really is fucking sad that people are THAT lonely. Freaks... I loved & hated it   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: I watched this when it aired on BBC, must have been a year ago or more. I was fucking speechless!
Kept having to pause it I felt so sorry for these bastards for exposing how truly pathetic they are That's about the best television ever made b/c I could not turn away for a single second - my jaw was on the floor damn near the whole time. I can't believe they allowed that shit to be filmed, & it really is fucking sad that people are THAT lonely. Freaks... I loved & hated it Exactly! I haven't been this riveted by a documentary since the Whitney Houston Crack-is-Wack interview. | |
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meow85 said: Imago said: OMG, I just realized how much thought I put into my last post
It's okay. I forgive you. GurLLLL, this documentary is obviously getting to you! | |
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Imago said: meow85 said: It's okay. I forgive you. GurLLLL, this documentary is obviously getting to you!  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Imago said: CalhounSq said: I watched this when it aired on BBC, must have been a year ago or more. I was fucking speechless!
Kept having to pause it I felt so sorry for these bastards for exposing how truly pathetic they are That's about the best television ever made b/c I could not turn away for a single second - my jaw was on the floor damn near the whole time. I can't believe they allowed that shit to be filmed, & it really is fucking sad that people are THAT lonely. Freaks... I loved & hated it Exactly! I haven't been this riveted by a documentary since the Whitney Houston Crack-is-Wack interview. It's incredible that they got these guys to reveal so much, that producer needs an Emmy I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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