Number23 said:

So.... what would you do if hypothetically this child was yours and a couple that you trusted did this to your child?

razor said:

Sorry to disappoint you Razor. But MuthaFunka suggesting the death penalty on two child molesters is very understandable.[b] No mercy should be granted to anyone that rapes children.[/b]

mcmeekle said:

No, what we're saying is, for ALL those that claim they WOULDN'T try and kill a molester that has molested THEIR child, they're just "talking" for now. If it ever came down to it, I'm willing to bet the farm that they'd try and kill that person on the spot.

BlueZebra said:

Says YOU. MY justice is JUST THAT.

BlueZebra said:

So what you're saying is "Yes, you'd kill to protect your children". Ok, so now you're not maing any sense - what's the issue with me then if all I'm saying is THAT'S what a parent is SUPPOSED to do if it came down to it, whether it's "wrong" to do so or not?

As for your question: I don't care who kills them, just as long as it's done. I really don't give a fuck at that point and I never will.

Number23 said:

So, what would u suggest we do with people who have done something as twisted and disgusting to a child that they were the ones to create? Of course people are going to lash out verbally and want them to rot in jail or want them dead given the emotion of the situation. What would u suggest we do? Pat these parents on the head and tell them its okay, we understand, because capitalism jacked up their phsyces? What a load of crap!
Let's just go around blaming capatalism for every evil, disgusting and immoral thing that is ever done by mankind. Dont u think thats passing the buck?

2elijah said:

Like I said earlier, most people who claim they wouldn't "go there" are either frontin' or don't have kids. It is a parent's JOB to protect their child AT ALL COSTS AND BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. ANYTHING short of that then they don't deserve to have any. If that offends anyone, oh well. Not my problem.

chillichocaholic said:

Exactly. And sorry that happened to her. Beatdowns for that fuckhead are STILL definitely in order though.

2elijah said:

the inmates are gonna get them and the guards will turn a blind eye

WTF are people DEFENDING these evil, evil criminals for?

razor said:

Tell me what good either of them are doing being alive. What use are they? What can they contribute to...anything?

All they've done is fill up the jails with more evil scum that should just be done with and leave another child disturbed, orphaned and alone in the world.

Fantastic.

I'm not deluded, THEY ARE. Didn't you say you were a parent? I can't believe me, an 18 yr old, is trying to tell a parent why pedophiles don't deserve life. Would YOU give these people a second chance if it was YOUR child involved?

Okay...Im going to add another true story to this and see how some of u may feel about this one..
I have a friend that I have known for almost 38 years...my whole life infact. SOmeone I was there for when she had both her sons. As a child my friend was sexaully assualted on a regular basis by her Uncle. As her boys grew she tried to teach them right from worng, discussed with them what had happened to her as a child and told them wheat they shuld do if it ever happened to them and did the best she could in regaurds to raising them.
Now with her oldest son T she had problems with him right from when he was a toddler and as he grew into a teen his behaviour became worse
Then when T was almost 14 she found out a horrifying secret...her son T had been raping his 6 year old cousin, and he told this little boy " If u tell ure mamma she will beat u and send u away"
Now needless to say ocne the little 6 year old finally broke down and told what had happened, my friends son was immediately arrested and taken to a juvenile detention centre, from there he went to a boys home where he had continuos behaviour problems.
Now T is 18 and he has a girlfriend who just had a baby
My friend, who still loves her son is happy for him.....As for me...I know he was a minor when he commited the rape on his cousin, but I want to know what friggin right this man has to have a child????? Answer me that
I fear for that child It makes me sick
[Edited 1/9/09 3:57am]

Number23 said:

Ahem...did I say any of that? What I said was I don't think he should have been allowed to have a child. No where in any of that did I say he should be killed so I think u are mistaking me for someone else

Number23 said:

Now thats worth some thought

paintedlady said:

You probably right about the solitary confinement until the trials. Do they even keep prisoners away from the general population after they have been convicted if the prisoner is in danger of being attacked or killed?

As for those of you who think this guy should be burned at the stake and any of us who disagree are amoral freaks, I'd like to suggest that the proper role of the criminal justice system is not punishment. It's isolation.

Punishment implies a moral judgment that I do NOT want my government to make. I do not want to live in a nation that uses death as revenge against its citizens. I want to live in a civilized nation that removes dangerous people from the rest of us so we can go about our lives. What criminals "deserve" is irrelevant to my life, as I'm not in the business of making that kind of judgment, and should be irrelevant to my government.

Hearing about this kind of thing makes most of us furious, but it doesn't HAVE to make us into savages.

chillichocaholic said:

What do you mean "not allowed to have a child"? Not allowed by whom?

Look around you, it all this culture promotes is heterosexuality. You act as if that's abnormal.

MuthaFunka said:

Jury Judge and God . . .

MuthaFunka said:

And you would argue that even though there is no way to rationally prove it.

MuthaFunka said:

Fortunately this is a country of law, not your justice.

Number23 said:

Bruh, one thing I've learned in life is that it's so easy for people to say what they THINK they do in a particular situation but the moment that situation is upon us...the "plan" flies right out the door and "reality" steps in.

MuthaFunka said:

A parent is supposed to kill? Anyone would kill in self-defense of defense of their family under attack. But if you have to go find the object of your anger, that is premeditated cold blooded murder, for which the death penalty applies in most of the country.

MuthaFunka said:

Even if he goes to jail? So he can never 'pay his debt to society'?

SUPRMAN said:

Excuse me but what do u mean by that? First of all I am NOT in America and secondly what has his sexuality got to do with anything?

MuthaFunka said:

i agree!

SUPRMAN said:

No, like some others here, you've completely missed the point and haven't realized there are 2 discussions going here:

1: The people that did that to their daughter should be taken out back and shot.

2: A parent should protect their child by any and all means necessary.

Now, is there anybody else still lost about any of this?

i was kidnapped and nearly killed years ago, and let me tell you, if you've never been a victim of a crime, you truly cannot understand! i have no mercy for people that do this type of thing to innocent kids!

MuthaFunka said:

We agree on #2 but enacting #1 is not carrying out #2.
If their parents were protecting them, they would never have been harmed.
Punishing the slime after the fact doesn't undo what should have been prevented.
[Edited 1/9/09 23:07pm]

chillichocaholic said:

Ok, I'll concede sex is only used to sell in America . . .

Well some states in the United States don't think you can raise a child unless you are heterosexual. Marriage is for procreation which openly encourages heterosexuality, who's ultimate signature is children. It's the prevailing social expectation at least from what I see of culture in the U.S.
Why wouldn't he prove his heterosexuality and manhood by having a child?