paintedlady said: MuthaFunka said: Ok, now THAT just fucked me all up. Thanks, Paint! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Let the firestorm of "How could you?!"s begin but I don't understand how a parent could NOT kill to protect their kids.
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hokie said: Let the firestorm of "How could you?!"s begin but I don't understand how a parent could NOT kill to protect their kids.
I would do ANYTHING to protect my kids and keep them from harm. ANYTHING. YOU get it. Others...haven't a clue. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: hokie said: Let the firestorm of "How could you?!"s begin but I don't understand how a parent could NOT kill to protect their kids.
I would do ANYTHING to protect my kids and keep them from harm. ANYTHING. YOU get it. Others...haven't a clue. Dude, there's a vacancy in heaven, they just fired God, maybe you should consider sending in your resume. I have 3 sons, now you tell me how killing someone who committed a crime would either help the one that was the victim OR the other 2? IF my son would become the victim of molestation, maybe I wasn't doing a good job being a parent anyway and you should consider taking my kids away from me. You killing that person is about VENGEANCE, and no way in hell is it about PROTECTION. PROTECTING your child = eliminating RISK . RISK is about CHANCE, the CHANCE of THAT PARTICULAR PERSON being able to molest your child again is a lot more smaller than the chance of you winning the lottery in the following dozen lifetimes. Sure, I don't get it. I'm fine with that. | |
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hokie said: Let the firestorm of "How could you?!"s begin but I don't understand how a parent could NOT kill to protect their kids.
I would do ANYTHING to protect my kids and keep them from harm. ANYTHING. you mean "I would do ANYTHING to vindicate the wrong that was done to my kids." this is vengeance, not protection. | |
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BlueZebra said: hokie said: Let the firestorm of "How could you?!"s begin but I don't understand how a parent could NOT kill to protect their kids.
I would do ANYTHING to protect my kids and keep them from harm. ANYTHING. you mean "I would do ANYTHING to vindicate the wrong that was done to my kids." this is vengeance, not protection. No. What I am saying is that if I were in a situation and I thought my kids were going to be hurt or killed or kidnapped I'd kill in order to prevent it. After the fact I don't think I could. I can't say for sure. I thank God have never been in that situation and hope I never am. I think I'd WANT to kill someone after, but don't know that I could. | |
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hokie said: BlueZebra said: you mean "I would do ANYTHING to vindicate the wrong that was done to my kids." this is vengeance, not protection. No. What I am saying is that if I were in a situation and I thought my kids were going to be hurt or killed or kidnapped I'd kill in order to prevent it. After the fact I don't think I could. I can't say for sure. I thank God have never been in that situation and hope I never am. I think I'd WANT to kill someone after, but don't know that I could. apparently you don't get it. Muthafunka, this girl needs a teacher, stat. | |
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BlueZebra said: hokie said: No. What I am saying is that if I were in a situation and I thought my kids were going to be hurt or killed or kidnapped I'd kill in order to prevent it. After the fact I don't think I could. I can't say for sure. I thank God have never been in that situation and hope I never am. I think I'd WANT to kill someone after, but don't know that I could. apparently you don't get it. Muthafunka, this girl needs a teacher, stat. I don't feel like defending myself. If you don't agree it's fine. I am pretty unpopular today apparently. | |
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BlueZebra said: MuthaFunka said: YOU get it. Others...haven't a clue. Dude, there's a vacancy in heaven, they just fired God, maybe you should consider sending in your resume. I have 3 sons, now you tell me how killing someone who committed a crime would either help the one that was the victim OR the other 2? IF my son would become the victim of molestation, maybe I wasn't doing a good job being a parent anyway and you should consider taking my kids away from me. You killing that person is about VENGEANCE, and no way in hell is it about PROTECTION. PROTECTING your child = eliminating RISK . RISK is about CHANCE, the CHANCE of THAT PARTICULAR PERSON being able to molest your child again is a lot more smaller than the chance of you winning the lottery in the following dozen lifetimes. Sure, I don't get it. I'm fine with that. I already have Jr. God experience...You think I have a shot? Hey, if you can't handle my view on this, then that's your problem, not mine. But you already admitted that you WOULD do ANYTHING - WHICH INCLUDES KILLING - to protect your child, so I STILL don't know why you're all hyped-up about this. So, what's your point to all this? It's senseless. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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hokie said: BlueZebra said: apparently you don't get it. Muthafunka, this girl needs a teacher, stat. I don't feel like defending myself. If you don't agree it's fine. I am pretty unpopular today apparently. No, I agree with you. I'd do anything to PREVENT my kids getting in harms way. Killing the molester after the facts doesn't count as protection to me, and obviously you're on the same page. But apparently we're wrong | |
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BlueZebra said: hokie said: No. What I am saying is that if I were in a situation and I thought my kids were going to be hurt or killed or kidnapped I'd kill in order to prevent it. After the fact I don't think I could. I can't say for sure. I thank God have never been in that situation and hope I never am. I think I'd WANT to kill someone after, but don't know that I could. apparently you don't get it. Muthafunka, this girl needs a teacher, stat. And not only do I have Jr. God experience, I'm also qualified to teach as well. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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BlueZebra said: hokie said: I don't feel like defending myself. If you don't agree it's fine. I am pretty unpopular today apparently. No, I agree with you. I'd do anything to PREVENT my kids getting in harms way. Killing the molester after the facts doesn't count as protection to me, and obviously you're on the same page. But apparently we're wrong OK...I spent last night at the hospital. Long story. Lots of sickness and not a lot of sleep. Brain malfunction. Your sig is a message to your SS isn't it? | |
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MuthaFunka said: BlueZebra said: Dude, there's a vacancy in heaven, they just fired God, maybe you should consider sending in your resume. I have 3 sons, now you tell me how killing someone who committed a crime would either help the one that was the victim OR the other 2? IF my son would become the victim of molestation, maybe I wasn't doing a good job being a parent anyway and you should consider taking my kids away from me. You killing that person is about VENGEANCE, and no way in hell is it about PROTECTION. PROTECTING your child = eliminating RISK . RISK is about CHANCE, the CHANCE of THAT PARTICULAR PERSON being able to molest your child again is a lot more smaller than the chance of you winning the lottery in the following dozen lifetimes. Sure, I don't get it. I'm fine with that. I already have Jr. God experience...You think I have a shot? Hey, if you can't handle my view on this, then that's your problem, not mine. But you already admitted that you WOULD do ANYTHING - WHICH INCLUDES KILLING - to protect your child, so I STILL don't know why you're all hyped-up about this. So, what's your point to all this? It's senseless. and here I was thinking that I could be right this one time ... Obviously not on the internet | |
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hokie said: BlueZebra said: No, I agree with you. I'd do anything to PREVENT my kids getting in harms way. Killing the molester after the facts doesn't count as protection to me, and obviously you're on the same page. But apparently we're wrong OK...I spent last night at the hospital. Long story. Lots of sickness and not a lot of sleep. Brain malfunction. Your sig is a message to your SS isn't it? no it's not she's a very sweet orger !! | |
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hokie said: BlueZebra said: apparently you don't get it. Muthafunka, this girl needs a teacher, stat. I don't feel like defending myself. If you don't agree it's fine. I am pretty unpopular today apparently. Please. Don't let ANYONE shake you from your beliefs, especially anonymous online personas. If they have an issue with YOUR BELIEFS, then that's their fuckin' hang-up, not yours. I could give a fuck about how some random online personas view me. It ain't that deep. Ever. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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BlueZebra said: MuthaFunka said: I already have Jr. God experience...You think I have a shot? Hey, if you can't handle my view on this, then that's your problem, not mine. But you already admitted that you WOULD do ANYTHING - WHICH INCLUDES KILLING - to protect your child, so I STILL don't know why you're all hyped-up about this. So, what's your point to all this? It's senseless. and here I was thinking that I could be right this one time ... Obviously not on the internet You know as a Jr. God I can't possibly allow that! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: BlueZebra said: and here I was thinking that I could be right this one time ... Obviously not on the internet You know as a Jr. God I can't possibly allow that! | |
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BlueZebra said: MuthaFunka said: You know as a Jr. God I can't possibly allow that! I haven't passed the exam to answer prayers yet...that's still the Big Guy's job. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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paintedlady said: Cloudbuster said: Well according to the masses those sick, demented people were created by a God who knew full well in advance every action his creations would take. He's all knowing, you know. So there goes your free will and God is obviously to blame. You can't have it both ways. I guess if you are looking to blame God for something then that would be a good place to start. With God all things are possible, so I CAN have it both ways. No, you can't. Either your god is omniscient (knows everything that has ever happened and will ever happen), OR you can have free will. Not both. If your god knows your future when it creates you, then in deciding to create you, it decides to create everything that you will ever do. In this guy's case, that would include raping his daughter. "With God all things are possible" is one of those lines of bullshit that people rehearse to themselves in order to shut their brains off. Religion REQUIRES you to decide to be stupid. I think I sleep better in a world where there are no gods but there are a few bad people, then I would in a world where there was the sort of god who would create bad people. "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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As for those of you who think this guy should be burned at the stake and any of us who disagree are amoral freaks, I'd like to suggest that the proper role of the criminal justice system is not punishment. It's isolation.
Punishment implies a moral judgment that I do NOT want my government to make. I do not want to live in a nation that uses death as revenge against its citizens. I want to live in a civilized nation that removes dangerous people from the rest of us so we can go about our lives. What criminals "deserve" is irrelevant to my life, as I'm not in the business of making that kind of judgment, and should be irrelevant to my government. Hearing about this kind of thing makes most of us furious, but it doesn't HAVE to make us into savages. "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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MuthaFunka said: .....What part of "Take them out back and shoot 'em" didn't translate?
The "Take them out back and shoot `em" part. Doesn't say what you'd do, just what you'd like done. I asked what would you do. And mainly because the girl would ALWAYS know that they're still alive and be scared that they just may get out somehow or some way.
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tackam said: ...Hearing about this kind of thing makes most of us furious, but it doesn't HAVE to make us into savages.
I think folks are putting their child/children in the poor girl's situation and using those emotions to decide what action to take. Not the best way to make a rational decision. IMO. | |
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tackam said: As for those of you who think this guy should be burned at the stake and any of us who disagree are amoral freaks, I'd like to suggest that the proper role of the criminal justice system is not punishment. It's isolation.
Punishment implies a moral judgment that I do NOT want my government to make. I do not want to live in a nation that uses death as revenge against its citizens. I want to live in a civilized nation that removes dangerous people from the rest of us so we can go about our lives. What criminals "deserve" is irrelevant to my life, as I'm not in the business of making that kind of judgment, and should be irrelevant to my government. Hearing about this kind of thing makes most of us furious, but it doesn't HAVE to make us into savages. Amen! | |
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mcmeekle said: MuthaFunka said: .....What part of "Take them out back and shoot 'em" didn't translate?
The "Take them out back and shoot `em" part. Doesn't say what you'd do, just what you'd like done. I asked what would you do. And mainly because the girl would ALWAYS know that they're still alive and be scared that they just may get out somehow or some way.
Has she gone on record to say this? Does she want them dead? No, you missed that point as well: That was how "I" would see it - her living in constant fear of them ever getting out. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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razor said: purplesweat said: There shouldn't even be discussion. They don't need to exist, it's rather simple. So your opinion is the "right" one and should just be accepted without discussion eh? North Korea may be looking for a new leader soon. Sounds like you're qualified... As I say, it sounds like you're another who feels they have the wisdom, and hence should be given the power, to decide who lives or dies. Normally people that deluded are the ones we try and put away... Jail is not suffering enough for me. | |
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tackam said: As for those of you who think this guy should be burned at the stake and any of us who disagree are amoral freaks, I'd like to suggest that the proper role of the criminal justice system is not punishment. It's isolation.
I have no problem with anyone that disagrees with me. I just have first hand experience and I would like people to know where I got my point of view on this and at least try to understand why I feel the way I do.Punishment implies a moral judgment that I do NOT want my government to make. I do not want to live in a nation that uses death as revenge against its citizens. I want to live in a civilized nation that removes dangerous people from the rest of us so we can go about our lives. What criminals "deserve" is irrelevant to my life, as I'm not in the business of making that kind of judgment, and should be irrelevant to my government. Hearing about this kind of thing makes most of us furious, but it doesn't HAVE to make us into savages. | |
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MuthaFunka said: razor said: Oh well - tough titty. Some people simply don't deserve to live. Simple as that. Jury Judge and God . . . I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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MuthaFunka said: razor said: Glad to hear you feel qualified to decide who lives or dies... Glad to hear you feel qualified to judge people you have no knowledge on... WOW! I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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tackam said: I'm gonna echo Dan Savage here. . .
Isn't it great that this girl had a mother and a father? Every child needs a mother and a father. Family values! So much better than being raised by homosexuals or lesbians . . . I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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June7 said: This is disgusting. Any parent who puts their own child in a situation like that should be taken out and shot.
Any father or mother who should put their children's safety as the number one priority in their lives, and they themselves are molesting them, sodomizing them and fucking up that child for the rest of their lives should be taken out and shot. No parent has the right to destroy their child's lives physically, mentally or emotionally, and they've done all of this. No amount of time in prison or rehab will make these people fit to live in our society. No amount of therapy or punishment for the parents will make this poor child forget what she's been through from the people she's supposed to trust completely. I agree with MF... they should be taken out and shot My humble opinion. And it is just that... an opinion. Isn't that what parents do best? I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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