paintedlady said:

what I wrote is just as asanine as what he wrote, that is the point.

tell me, what is the sense of saying "let them out back and shoot 'em" ? What is it that I, as a father of 3 that would do anything to protect MY children, don't understand ? If this would happen to my kids, sure I would seek revenge but I also believe that I would be eternally grateful to a person that restrains me and prevents me from doing stupid things.

an eye for an eye is not justice, even when you're blinded with anger.

BlueZebra said:

Yeah, because "electing Obama" and "child abuse/rape/molestation" are basically one in the same. Makes a TON of sense. Thanks!

BlueZebra said:

Please. Miss me with that nonsense. That post made absolutely no sense whatsoever. You'd seek revenge? So that's supposed to mean exactly what? Explain just exactly "what revenge" you'd seek? Especially when you said you'd do "ANYTHING" to protect your children. "Anything" means KILL...Unless you can explain what constitutes YOUR "ANYTHING"?

MuthaFunka said:

it isn't. letting people out back and shooting them is not justice either.

MuthaFunka said:

Tell me, in your post, WHO would you suggest to KILL those two people ?

BlueZebra said:

Says YOU. MY justice is JUST THAT.

BlueZebra said:

Wrong, this isn't how this works. YOU answer my question first and THEN I'll answer yours. Respect my post if you want me to respect yours. Simple as that.

MuthaFunka said:

I don't doubt I would kill him/her if I could lay my hands on him/her. I also don't doubt that it is the wrong thing to do and I would be eternally grateful to the person who stops me from doing that.

My post answered your question. Now you answer mine.

BlueZebra said:

So what you're saying is "Yes, you'd kill to protect your children". Ok, so now you're not maing any sense - what's the issue with me then if all I'm saying is THAT'S what a parent is SUPPOSED to do if it came down to it, whether it's "wrong" to do so or not?

As for your question: I don't care who kills them, just as long as it's done. I really don't give a fuck at that point and I never will.

MuthaFunka said:

Man, I hope you don't procreate.

BlueZebra said:

TRANSLATION: "Damn, he got me there. I have no viable comeback but this weak-ass insult" -

MuthaFunka said:

That's a damn shame. I think many people reading this story would want to get their hands on the parents and shake them up a bit. It is horrific that parents would stoop that low. A parent's job is to protect their children, not to allow either to rape them. This is such a horrific crime and people have a right to be angry about it, as just knowing it happened, brings out a lot of emotion and anger. I remember when I listened to a case like this when I served as a grand juror, earlier this year. When you listen to the victim, a child, tell the horrific, disgusting and shameful details of the incident of incest by a parent, and you watch them cry in pain and shame, trust and believe you just want to get hold of the parent who destroyed that child's innocence and strangle them for the pain, damage and shame they caused on their own children.

But when those parents go to jail for doing this to their daughter, they better be in protective custody,because the inmates will be after them for sure. A lot of rapes/incest cases like this happen to kids from members of their families more than people realize. A damn shame and disgusting. I have absolutely no sorrow for the parents. They will get what they deserve in due time.
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Number23 said:

So, what would u suggest we do with people who have done something as twisted and disgusting to a child that they were the ones to create? Of course people are going to lash out verbally and want them to rot in jail or want them dead given the emotion of the situation. What would u suggest we do? Pat these parents on the head and tell them its okay, we understand, because capitalism jacked up their phsyces? What a load of crap!
Let's just go around blaming capatalism for every evil, disgusting and immoral thing that is ever done by mankind. Dont u think thats passing the buck?

chillichocaholic said:

I think he would advocate massive jailtime, just no death I think

2elijah said:

Like I said earlier, most people who claim they wouldn't "go there" are either frontin' or don't have kids. It is a parent's JOB to protect their child AT ALL COSTS AND BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. ANYTHING short of that then they don't deserve to have any. If that offends anyone, oh well. Not my problem.

I have no words!

MoniGram said:

It is so much worse if she was getting off on it Probably she was afraid of her husband but said MF would get a fucking bat to the head before I turned over my kid for my own protection.

IT'S.

TIME.

TO.

FUCKING.

BRAWL.

MuthaFunka said:

You damn right.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

i told my husband from day one, if he ever hit me, he'd better make it good, coz id be out the door 4 good.

if he (or anyone else) touched my son

BlueZebra said:

I have a lot of respect for you and as I said, I am bleeding heart liberal pacifist. I know that murder is wrong and if it ever happened to my kid, the best thing that could probably happen is the police would get to that person first. But, as someone who has been through hell, only to see the persons truly not suffer any consequences for what they did to me, if I reached such a person first, I would kill them. I will never truly be whole again. Even if the person who assaulted me would be in jail at night, it would not make me feel any better.

prb said:

poor girl

jail would be too good 4 both of those "parents"

Okay...I'm going to tell u all something personal that happened to my family just a month ago.
My 13 year old niece went to a frinds birthday and was sexually assualted by a male there, someone older. Now ehn my brothers were told one of the boys first reaction was to go out to his garage and grab a blockbuster, then he and my other brother conviened at my fathers house ready to go and break this guys legs, which is exactly how I would have expected them to react to be honest because my family is very protective and after the things that happened to me when I was younger they were ready to do battle
Then after a conversation with my Uncle who is a Police detective they calmed down somewhat and are now allowing the police to do their job But dont for one second think if they got their hands on this guy they would not kick his ass

2elijah said:

Number23 said:

You are a better person than anyone I know, or have met, or have yet to meet. You always make perfect sense, and use your brain instead of your animalistic instincts to deal with things. Wow! What a concept! Swooon!

chillichocaholic said:

oh wow sweets, so sorry it happened. How is she coping, therapy, etc?


That is like a lot of situations, u calm down after someone chats 2 u. Some jerk hit my car while it was parked and didn't leave his info. Said he didn't do it etc I was furious and wanted to grab him ( but he is stronger than me and he is a dude) but then rang the cops and they dealt with it and turns out was him ( happened at midnight) cause he's paying for the damage. All this was on my vacation to phillip island 2 weeks ago or so.

so sad this happened to hun. if u wanna talk u know where 2 grab me. Love m

missmad said:

Thanks missmad
She's doing okay and the CIB are dealing with it. Thanks for being so sweet

chillichocaholic said:

Exactly. And sorry that happened to her. Beatdowns for that fuckhead are STILL definitely in order though.

MuthaFunka said:

no, if you would want to translate that it'd rather sound like "it's friggin 3am, I'm going to bed"

I do honestly believe that there is a judicial system in my country and yours that penalizes criminals for whatever crime they committed. Justice is not served by taking matters in your own hands.

I have my POV and you have yours, just be glad we are entitled to that.

Vendetta1 said:

Exactly ...

My niece (and her best friend) were molested by her stepfather when she was 11yo. Did my father (her godfather) want to beat his ass up ? sure did. I remember him discussing furiously with my mom and even going out on a search. He never did though and with that taught me a valuable lesson. The guy went to jail, came out again and died of cancer a few years later.