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Reply #120 posted 01/11/09 5:29pm

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How many innocent death will be required before ignorant people stop messing with pit bulls?

There should be a law that limits ownership of pit bulls to qualified individuals only.
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Reply #121 posted 01/11/09 6:00pm

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I've told my story loads of times about my neighbour who had 2 pitbulls, untrained and unrestrained in his yard.
Three times the dogs escaped and 2 of those times attacked other dogs, and the other time chased, caught and mauled to death their own cat. What if my toddlers had been playing in my front yard?
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Reply #122 posted 01/11/09 6:10pm

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ZombieKitten said:

I've told my story loads of times about my neighbour who had 2 pitbulls, untrained and unrestrained in his yard.
Three times the dogs escaped and 2 of those times attacked other dogs, and the other time chased, caught and mauled to death their own cat. What if my toddlers had been playing in my front yard?


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That's horrible! I assume that they are no longer there?
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Reply #123 posted 01/11/09 6:24pm

ZombieKitten

PurpleJedi said:

ZombieKitten said:

I've told my story loads of times about my neighbour who had 2 pitbulls, untrained and unrestrained in his yard.
Three times the dogs escaped and 2 of those times attacked other dogs, and the other time chased, caught and mauled to death their own cat. What if my toddlers had been playing in my front yard?


omfg

That's horrible! I assume that they are no longer there?


the dogs were both seized and destroyed - such a drama! there were 4 police cars, 2 plain clothes cars and 2 dog handling vans, but the guy didn't resist, he'd been trying to comply with council regulations in building a pen for them, and all three times they escaped when he'd opened the door to leave the house. He had to go to court and was heftily fined, in fact all the money he'd saved for a downpayment for a house, so he had to live with his mother quite a few more years than he'd planned to confused
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Reply #124 posted 01/11/09 6:32pm

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ZombieKitten said:

PurpleJedi said:



omfg

That's horrible! I assume that they are no longer there?


the dogs were both seized and destroyed - such a drama! there were 4 police cars, 2 plain clothes cars and 2 dog handling vans, but the guy didn't resist, he'd been trying to comply with council regulations in building a pen for them, and all three times they escaped when he'd opened the door to leave the house. He had to go to court and was heftily fined, in fact all the money he'd saved for a downpayment for a house, so he had to live with his mother quite a few more years than he'd planned to confused


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Well...I'm sure that you & your husband breathed a BIG sigh of relief that day, eh?

There is a house next to my daughter's dance school, and once I saw someone exit with a pit bull on a leash. I can't tell you how nervous I feel everytime we have to walk in front of that house!
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Reply #125 posted 01/11/09 6:37pm

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PurpleJedi said:

ZombieKitten said:



the dogs were both seized and destroyed - such a drama! there were 4 police cars, 2 plain clothes cars and 2 dog handling vans, but the guy didn't resist, he'd been trying to comply with council regulations in building a pen for them, and all three times they escaped when he'd opened the door to leave the house. He had to go to court and was heftily fined, in fact all the money he'd saved for a downpayment for a house, so he had to live with his mother quite a few more years than he'd planned to confused


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Well...I'm sure that you & your husband breathed a BIG sigh of relief that day, eh?

There is a house next to my daughter's dance school, and once I saw someone exit with a pit bull on a leash. I can't tell you how nervous I feel everytime we have to walk in front of that house!


yeah the mood was mixed though, the animals were put down, and that was sad since our neighbours LOVED those dogs, especially the puppy that belonged to his late father, we know it was really hard for them. But we are REALLY happy the only dog there now is a little Shitzu called Cindy lol
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Reply #126 posted 01/11/09 7:44pm

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yeah the mood was mixed though, the animals were put down, and that was sad since our neighbours LOVED those dogs, especially the puppy that belonged to his late father, we know it was really hard for them. But we are REALLY happy the only dog there now is a little Shitzu called Cindy lol


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Reply #127 posted 01/11/09 8:11pm

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There are exceptions of course but almost NOBODY GOOD owns these damn dogs. The parents absolutely should be sent to jail because it's virtually guaranteed that they trained these dogs to be fucking thugs. This shit sickens me so much. That poor little girl disbelief

My parents and brother have rescued pit bulls. There is no denying that it was an astronomical amount of work. They are very strong dogs with very determined wills. My brothers dog was severely abused prior to coming to him and his foster father was focused on placing dogs that were slated to be killed. I assure you, they are good people.
Now, I am in no way saying there arent a good number of them beyond redemption. There are also a good many ways to test the dogs inner nature. That all said, my parents and brother would not ever have a small child unattended around their pets.
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Reply #128 posted 01/11/09 8:44pm

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Just today a 4 yr old was killed in his own back yard here in Chicago by a Rottweiler. It was the family dog. sad

http://www.chicagobreakin...-dogs.html

The boy was identified as Alex Angulo, 4, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office. Alex was taken to Holy Cross Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at about 4:15 p.m.


There was more than one dog at the scene when police arrived, though it was unclear how many animals were involved in the attack, said Chicago Police Sgt. Antoinette Ursitti. Mark Rosenthal, the operations manager at the Chicago Commission on Animal Care and Control, said the agency took two Rottweilers, a male and female, from the scene. Later a female poodle believed to also live in the same house was brought to the animal control facility by a resident of the block, he added.

All three dogs are being held in quarantine tonight and officials are conferring with the medical examiner's office and police to determine how to proceed with testing for rabies, Rosenthal said.


Police officers were still on the scene about two hours after the attack, collecting evidence and interviewing witnesses. From the street a sign that read "Beware of the Dog" could be seen on a wooden fence surrounding the property.

A neighbor on the block said some residents feared the Rottweilers at the two-story yellow frame house because they sometimes acted aggressively. The dogs were usually confined in the yard, but sometimes got out, said Lisette Valencia, 20.

"The dog was kind of scary," she said.

The Illinois Department of Children and Family Services is investigating the incident and has had no prior contact with the family, said spokesman Kendall Marlowe.



In a similar attack, two sisters, ages 5 and 10, were mauled by Rottweiler at their mother's Joliet home on Tuesday. The two were taken to Children's Memorial Hospital in Chicago for treatment.

That attack occurred when the Rottweiler escaped from its cage and mauled one sister in the backyard and the other as she fled into the street, police have said. Will County animal control took the dog.

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Reply #129 posted 01/12/09 1:53pm

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Is this being done on purpose? Another one killed....

Boy mauled to death by dog was about to be adopted
A 4-year-old boy mauled to death Sunday by a Rottweiler at his Southwest Side foster home was going to be removed from the house and placed with a family who hoped to adopt him -- possibly as early as this week, officials said today. Cook County Public Guardian Robert Harris said there was a plan in place to move Alex — who was not related to anyone in the home — as early as Jan. 15 to a “pre-adoptive foster home."
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Reply #130 posted 01/12/09 2:31pm

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A couple things seems to be forgotten here:

- That it's a family owning the dog does NOT mean that it's good folks. Too many punks get dogs like these thinking it's good to have a guard dog for the family, and they think that the only way to "train" a guard dog is to fight it. Suprise people, fighting other dogs don't mean the dog will protect you against intruders.
- These punks want some cheap thrills so they take the dog with them and do amateur dog fights when they go out for a beer with the guys. The wife has nooo idea.


Stop bailing these people out cos they're "families"!
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Reply #131 posted 01/12/09 2:44pm

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This has happened twice in my area. The first time, the pit bull killed a neighbor's dog. The second time, the pit bull killed a neighbor's child. Pit bulls are illegal to have in the city I live in but these killings are happening in the suburbs.
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Reply #132 posted 01/12/09 3:37pm

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Teacher said:

A couple things seems to be forgotten here:

- That it's a family owning the dog does NOT mean that it's good folks. Too many punks get dogs like these thinking it's good to have a guard dog for the family, and they think that the only way to "train" a guard dog is to fight it. Suprise people, fighting other dogs don't mean the dog will protect you against intruders.
- These punks want some cheap thrills so they take the dog with them and do amateur dog fights when they go out for a beer with the guys. The wife has nooo idea.


Stop bailing these people out cos they're "families"!


I didn't mean any sympathy because it as a family dog. I think it's sad and dumb as hell to have these breeds around kids. You can't predict a dog's behavior. And you can't predict what a 4 or 5 year old will do to a dog. They think it's a toy. That's why I have a cat. You never hear of a cat attacking a child and mauling him or her to death. Cats don't chase cars either.

There's a pit right next door to me. Sure, there's a fence. But when I walk into my back yard, he runs along the fence and barks like mad. I'd much prefer there was a cat living there. pussy
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Reply #133 posted 01/12/09 3:39pm

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noimageatall said:

Teacher said:

A couple things seems to be forgotten here:

- That it's a family owning the dog does NOT mean that it's good folks. Too many punks get dogs like these thinking it's good to have a guard dog for the family, and they think that the only way to "train" a guard dog is to fight it. Suprise people, fighting other dogs don't mean the dog will protect you against intruders.
- These punks want some cheap thrills so they take the dog with them and do amateur dog fights when they go out for a beer with the guys. The wife has nooo idea.


Stop bailing these people out cos they're "families"!


I didn't mean any sympathy because it as a family dog. I think it's sad and dumb as hell to have these breeds around kids. You can't predict a dog's behavior. And you can't predict what a 4 or 5 year old will do to a dog. They think it's a toy. That's why I have a cat. You never hear of a cat attacking a child and mauling him or her to death. Cats don't chase cars either.

There's a pit right next door to me. Sure, there's a fence. But when I walk into my back yard, he runs along the fence and barks like mad. I'd much prefer there was a cat living there. pussy


I know you didn't nod I think it's dumb as hell to have any dog unsupervised around kids, because of the exact things you state. We're in perfect agreement on that.
Cats DO sometimes hide in car engines though. lol
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Reply #134 posted 01/12/09 3:47pm

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Teacher said:

A couple things seems to be forgotten here:

- That it's a family owning the dog does NOT mean that it's good folks. Too many punks get dogs like these thinking it's good to have a guard dog for the family, and they think that the only way to "train" a guard dog is to fight it. Suprise people, fighting other dogs don't mean the dog will protect you against intruders.
- These punks want some cheap thrills so they take the dog with them and do amateur dog fights when they go out for a beer with the guys. The wife has nooo idea.


Stop bailing these people out cos they're "families"!


Some of us have been saying this the entire time.
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Reply #135 posted 01/12/09 3:48pm

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JustErin said:

Teacher said:

A couple things seems to be forgotten here:

- That it's a family owning the dog does NOT mean that it's good folks. Too many punks get dogs like these thinking it's good to have a guard dog for the family, and they think that the only way to "train" a guard dog is to fight it. Suprise people, fighting other dogs don't mean the dog will protect you against intruders.
- These punks want some cheap thrills so they take the dog with them and do amateur dog fights when they go out for a beer with the guys. The wife has nooo idea.


Stop bailing these people out cos they're "families"!


Some of us have been saying this the entire time.


Actually, you've been saying that the dogs are dangerous in and of themselves just by existing. I am not.
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Reply #136 posted 01/12/09 3:48pm

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Teacher said:

noimageatall said:



I didn't mean any sympathy because it as a family dog. I think it's sad and dumb as hell to have these breeds around kids. You can't predict a dog's behavior. And you can't predict what a 4 or 5 year old will do to a dog. They think it's a toy. That's why I have a cat. You never hear of a cat attacking a child and mauling him or her to death. Cats don't chase cars either.

There's a pit right next door to me. Sure, there's a fence. But when I walk into my back yard, he runs along the fence and barks like mad. I'd much prefer there was a cat living there. pussy


I know you didn't nod I think it's dumb as hell to have any dog unsupervised around kids, because of the exact things you state. We're in perfect agreement on that.
Cats DO sometimes hide in car engines though. lol


Well, I didn't say cats had high IQ's... lol They're just smarter than dogs. razz
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Reply #137 posted 01/12/09 4:33pm

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Teacher said:

JustErin said:



Some of us have been saying this the entire time.


Actually, you've been saying that the dogs are dangerous in and of themselves just by existing. I am not.


Wtf?? I never said that. lol
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Reply #138 posted 01/12/09 4:36pm

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Reply #139 posted 01/12/09 6:26pm

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oh hell....pits in the GD forum have become what abortion is on the P&R discussion forum!

I still love my pit though... lol
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Reply #140 posted 01/13/09 1:09am

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You can't blame the dogs since they are animals but I want to strangle people walking down the street with these dogs cuz they are always pathetic losers.


Status dogs, we see that here too. We rescued one a while back and he was a scared mite, you wonder how they get treated.

If you need a dog to look like a big man....then you sure as hell aint a big man

Not a man at all, I'd say.

Tormenting an animal 'til it's so scared it'll snap at whatever gets too close? Oh yeah, that's real macho.
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Reply #141 posted 01/13/09 1:12am

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superspaceboy said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


You can't blame the dogs since they are animals but I want to strangle people walking down the street with these dogs cuz they are always pathetic losers.


You can't blame the dogs, but I think certain dogs are simply more dangerous than others and should not be allowed to be sold to the public.

I wouldn't go that far, but I think the purchase and ownership of breeds like these should be restricted to people who have to get a special license for it. Make them prove they'll be responsible owners of the pits. nod

I know there are shitheads owning every breed, but it's just fact that certain breeds, when mistreated, get to be a lot more vicious because of their strength and size. A poorly-treated Yorkie could never kill a 5 year old.
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Reply #142 posted 01/13/09 1:21am

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You teach the child to leave the dog the fuck alone if it wants to be left alone. Easy - no uncertain terms and no discussion. Teach the child respect for the dog, never let it treat the dog as a toy. People don't like to think so, but this is where the major part of dog attacks on children originate. People think that the dog will stand for anything, but stand at the playground of a kindergarten for five minutes and then tell me children are nice people... they're not. Teach the child that you NEVER can, for example; Step on the dog or any part of it. Not drop things on it, not even little seemingly harmless pieces of LEGO. Not pull its tail or poke the nose. NEVER.
The dog? You can't teach the dog not to attack people, not even if you kick it to shit. It's an animal, it will react to things.

100% truth.

Children do need to know how to act around animals because, when they're not taught this, they'll straight up torture an animal.

People REALLY need to teach their children to leave strange dogs alone. Do not approach them. Do not go to pet the nice doggie, because he might not be such a nice doggie.

My dog has to wear a muzzle at all times in public because he has aggression problems. To top it off, he doesn't like kids. But the number of times in the two years since adopting him some shit-for-brains parent lets their precious little darling come over -WITHOUT EVEN ASKING to see if it's okay -to pet the nice doggie is goddamned mind-boggling! disbelief
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Reply #143 posted 01/13/09 1:42am

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JasmineFire said:


100% truth.

Children do need to know how to act around animals because, when they're not taught this, they'll straight up torture an animal.

People REALLY need to teach their children to leave strange dogs alone. Do not approach them. Do not go to pet the nice doggie, because he might not be such a nice doggie.

My dog has to wear a muzzle at all times in public because he has aggression problems. To top it off, he doesn't like kids. But the number of times in the two years since adopting him some shit-for-brains parent lets their precious little darling come over -WITHOUT EVEN ASKING to see if it's okay -to pet the nice doggie is goddamned mind-boggling! disbelief


It is mind boggling. We have small children running up to our dog all of the time. Luckily he loves little ones but he is strong and still a pup so he does not know how to play gentle yet.
Looking at this thread and then just reading in the news about a 17 yr old kid that shot both of his parents, killing his mom because he became obsessed with a video game and lost all sense of reality, it seems many humans have lost contact with reality.

They use guns, dogs, knives, their bare hands to destroy humans. Sick..many have a lot to say about dogs, they are just animals, domesticated by humans.
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Reply #144 posted 01/13/09 2:27am

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shanti0608 said:

meow85 said:


People REALLY need to teach their children to leave strange dogs alone. Do not approach them. Do not go to pet the nice doggie, because he might not be such a nice doggie.

My dog has to wear a muzzle at all times in public because he has aggression problems. To top it off, he doesn't like kids. But the number of times in the two years since adopting him some shit-for-brains parent lets their precious little darling come over -WITHOUT EVEN ASKING to see if it's okay -to pet the nice doggie is goddamned mind-boggling! disbelief


It is mind boggling. We have small children running up to our dog all of the time. Luckily he loves little ones but he is strong and still a pup so he does not know how to play gentle yet.
Looking at this thread and then just reading in the news about a 17 yr old kid that shot both of his parents, killing his mom because he became obsessed with a video game and lost all sense of reality, it seems many humans have lost contact with reality.

They use guns, dogs, knives, their bare hands to destroy humans. Sick..many have a lot to say about dogs, they are just animals, domesticated by humans.
disbelief


I just don't understand why someone would let their kid try to pet a strange dog. Mine clearly wears a muzzle -one of the metal and leather ones, not even a cute little fabric mesh number -anyone with half a brain could figure out why. Don't get me wrong, Simon is a sweetheart -if he knows you and you're not a small child.

Seriously, do they want their child to get bit?

Makes me think of that story a few years ago, from Banff National Park, where a tourist couple saw a bear on the side of the road and so pulled over to get a picture of Junior with Winnie the Pooh. They'd smeared peanut butter on the kid's hand so the bear would lick it. I don't think I need to tell you how that story turned out. Poor kid. disbelief
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Reply #145 posted 01/13/09 2:17pm

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meow85 said:

shanti0608 said:



It is mind boggling. We have small children running up to our dog all of the time. Luckily he loves little ones but he is strong and still a pup so he does not know how to play gentle yet.
Looking at this thread and then just reading in the news about a 17 yr old kid that shot both of his parents, killing his mom because he became obsessed with a video game and lost all sense of reality, it seems many humans have lost contact with reality.

They use guns, dogs, knives, their bare hands to destroy humans. Sick..many have a lot to say about dogs, they are just animals, domesticated by humans.
disbelief


I just don't understand why someone would let their kid try to pet a strange dog. Mine clearly wears a muzzle -one of the metal and leather ones, not even a cute little fabric mesh number -anyone with half a brain could figure out why. Don't get me wrong, Simon is a sweetheart -if he knows you and you're not a small child.

Seriously, do they want their child to get bit?

Makes me think of that story a few years ago, from Banff National Park, where a tourist couple saw a bear on the side of the road and so pulled over to get a picture of Junior with Winnie the Pooh. They'd smeared peanut butter on the kid's hand so the bear would lick it. I don't think I need to tell you how that story turned out. Poor kid. disbelief


Same reason there should be a license for people wanting to own a dog (and I agree with you there most def), there should be an IQ test for people who want children. disbelief
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Reply #146 posted 01/13/09 7:06pm

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Teacher said:

meow85 said:



I just don't understand why someone would let their kid try to pet a strange dog. Mine clearly wears a muzzle -one of the metal and leather ones, not even a cute little fabric mesh number -anyone with half a brain could figure out why. Don't get me wrong, Simon is a sweetheart -if he knows you and you're not a small child.

Seriously, do they want their child to get bit?

Makes me think of that story a few years ago, from Banff National Park, where a tourist couple saw a bear on the side of the road and so pulled over to get a picture of Junior with Winnie the Pooh. They'd smeared peanut butter on the kid's hand so the bear would lick it. I don't think I need to tell you how that story turned out. Poor kid. disbelief


Same reason there should be a license for people wanting to own a dog (and I agree with you there most def), there should be an IQ test for people who want children. disbelief


nod Agreed. If only there was a practical way to enforce that.

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Reply #147 posted 01/14/09 12:39am

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meow85 said:

Teacher said:



Same reason there should be a license for people wanting to own a dog (and I agree with you there most def), there should be an IQ test for people who want children. disbelief


nod Agreed. If only there was a practical way to enforce that.

Love your avvie, btw.


you'll then find the smarter people are, the less likely they want to have kids!!! nuts they know all the good reasons not to.
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Reply #148 posted 01/14/09 12:47am

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ZombieKitten said:

meow85 said:



nod Agreed. If only there was a practical way to enforce that.

Love your avvie, btw.


you'll then find the smarter people are, the less likely they want to have kids!!! nuts they know all the good reasons not to.


I have been watching our neighbours 16 month old while his dad is in the hospital with a possible case of meningitis. I said to my hubby last night, maybe we should forget about the baby thing and just travel around the world.
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The baby is walking now and has also learned to hit. Ahhhh it is all down hill from here, it is a shame, he was so cute.
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Reply #149 posted 01/14/09 12:53am

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shanti0608 said:

ZombieKitten said:



you'll then find the smarter people are, the less likely they want to have kids!!! nuts they know all the good reasons not to.


I have been watching our neighbours 16 month old while his dad is in the hospital with a possible case of meningitis. I said to my hubby last night, maybe we should forget about the baby thing and just travel around the world.
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The baby is walking now and has also learned to hit. Ahhhh it is all down hill from here, it is a shame, he was so cute.
falloff

frikkin babies just go and grow up!!! mad

and other people's babies disbelief you know I am having some troubles of my own with that too - much as loving them is the right thing to do, it's damned near impossible lol
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