independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > General Discussion > 9 Muslim passengers removed from jet
« Previous topic  Next topic »
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 01/02/09 2:28pm

missmad

9 Muslim passengers removed from jet

Flight postponed after other travelers overhear 'suspicious' remark

Video
9 Muslim passengers removed from flight
Jan. 2: Nine American Muslims, most of them headed to Florida for a vacation with family members, were removed from an AirTran Airways flight Thursday afternoon at Reagan National Airport, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said. WRC-TV's Darcy Spencer reports.

NBC News Channel
The Washington Post
Two Advisers Reflect on Eight Years With Bush
End of the Year Brings A Burst of Settlements With Justice Department
Obama Wraps Up His Hawaiian Vacation
Bombs Planted in Aspen; Suspect Found Dead
More Colleges Expected to Offer Online Interviews
Most popular
• Most viewed • Top rated • Most e-mailed
More top brands seen disappearing in 2009
Supermarket super-villains: 20 foods to skip
Makeover! New style after 14 years
Slump means identity crisis for Las Vegas
Eight alternatives to Detroit’s ‘Big Three’
Most viewed on msnbc.com
Doctor honored for a lifetime of house calls
Sons’ love for missing dad plumbs the ocean’s depths
Child 'slavery' now being imported to U.S.
New product seals broken bones in minutes
Washington mulls deporting jailed illegal aliens
Most viewed on msnbc.com
When your kid won’t ‘friend’ you
Slump means identity crisis for Las Vegas
More top brands seen disappearing in 2009
Rare 1937 Bugatti car found in English garage
IndyMac sold to investor group for $13.9B
Most viewed on msnbc.com
By Amy Gardner
updated 4:15 a.m. ET Jan. 2, 2009

WASHINGTON - Officials ordered nine Muslim passengers, including three young children, off an AirTran flight headed to Orlando from Reagan National Airport yesterday afternoon after two other passengers overheard what they thought was a suspicious remark.

Members of the party, all but one of them U.S.-born citizens who were headed to a religious retreat in Florida, were subsequently cleared for travel by FBI agents who characterized the incident as a misunderstanding, an airport official said. But the passengers said AirTran refused to rebook them, and they had to pay for seats on another carrier secured with help from the FBI.

Kashif Irfan, one of the removed passengers, said the incident began about 1 p.m. after his brother, Atif, and his brother's wife wondered aloud about the safest place to sit on an airplane.
Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here

"My brother and his wife were discussing some aspect of airport security," Irfan said. "The only thing my brother said was, 'Wow, the jets are right next to my window.' I think they were remarking about safety."

Irfan said he and the others think they were profiled because of their appearance. He said five of the six adults in the party are of South Asian descent, and all six are traditionally Muslim in appearance, with the men wearing beards and the women in headscarves. Irfan, 34, is an anesthesiologist. His brother, 29, is a lawyer. Both live in Alexandria with their families, and both were born in Detroit. They were traveling with their wives, Kashif Irfan's sister-in-law, a friend and Kashif Irfan's three sons, ages 7, 4 and 2.

'Precautions'
AirTran spokesman Tad Hutcheson agreed that the incident amounted to a misunderstanding. But he defended AirTran's handling of the incident, which he said strictly followed federal rules. And he denied any wrongdoing on the airline's part.

"At the end of the day, people got on and made comments they shouldn't have made on the airplane, and other people heard them," Hutcheson said. "Other people heard them, misconstrued them. It just so happened these people were of Muslim faith and appearance. It escalated, it got out of hand and everyone took precautions."

Hutcheson confirmed that it was ultimately the pilot's decision to postpone the flight. But he said the pilot was influenced not only by the complaints from passengers but by the actions of two federal air marshals on board, who had learned of the incident and reported it to airport police.

Click for related content
Read more news from across the U.S.

As a result of that report, federal officials made the decision to order all 104 passengers from the plane and re-screen them and their luggage before allowing the flight to take off for Orlando — two hours late and without the nine passengers.

Ellen Howe, a spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration, said the pilot acted appropriately.

"For us, it just highlights that security is everybody's responsibility," Howe said. "Someone heard something that was inappropriate, and then the airline decided to act on it. We certainly support [the pilot's] call to do that."

Security sweep
Howe added that the TSA's involvement was limited to conducting a security sweep of the plane after the passengers were removed. Airport police officers' only involvement was to hold the passengers in custody until the FBI arrived, said Tara Hamilton, a spokeswoman for the agency that runs the airport.

Hutcheson said AirTran is not likely to reimburse the passengers for the additional cost of their replacement tickets on USAirways. He said they were given a full refund for their AirTran fares and may fly on the carrier now that the investigation is complete.

The detained passengers said that is not likely.

"It was an ordeal," said Abdur Razack Aziz, the family friend who was also detained. "Nothing came out of it. It was paranoid people. It was very sad."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 01/02/09 2:32pm

missmad

Airline apologizes for removing Muslims
AirTran says it was a misunderstanding, covers airfares of the nine

Video
Travelers removed
Jan. 2: Nine American Muslims, most of them headed to Florida for a vacation, were removed from a flight leaving Washington, D.C. WRC-TV's Darcy Spencer reports.

NBC News Channel

Video: Security

More video
Atlanta budget cuts worsen house fire
Jan. 2: A routine house fire in Atlanta quickly became a three alarm incident, when a lack of firefighters allowed the house to burn while crews scrambled across the city to gather resources. WXIA's Catherine Kim reports.
9 Muslim passengers removed from flight
Inside look at cruise ship security
‘Smuggling subs’ a worry for security officials
Intel. report: U.S. faces security challenges
Newsweek: More on global terrorism
Terror Watch: A Germ Warfare Guru Goes Free
How Waterboarding Got the Green Light from Bush
Q&A: Bob Graham On New WMD Terror Attack Threat
Terror Watch: Brennan Bows Out for CIA Position
Terror Watch: A Fresh U.S. Strike at Al Qaeda
Intel Agencies Vie for Obama's Attention
Finalizing a Plan for a U.S. Office in Tehran
Terror Watch: Neo-Nazis and Obama
A Raid on Syria Targets Qaeda Operative
Why did the NSA classify 'public' report on wiretaps?
updated 4:33 p.m. ET Jan. 2, 2009

WASHINGTON - AirTran Airways apologized Friday to nine Muslims kicked off a New Year's Day flight to Florida after other passengers reported hearing a suspicious remark about airplane security.

One of the passengers said the confusion started at Reagan National Airport in Washington, D.C., when he talked about the safest place to sit on an airplane.

Orlando, Fla.-based AirTran said in a statement that it refunded the passengers' air fare and planned to reimburse them for replacement tickets they bought on US Airways. AirTran also offered to take the passengers back to Washington free of charge.
Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here

"We apologize to all of the passengers — to the nine who had to undergo extensive interviews from the authorities and to the 95 who ultimately made the flight," the statement said. "Nobody on Flight 175 reached their destination on time on New Year's Day, and we regret it."

The airline said the incident on the flight from Reagan National Airport to Orlando was a misunderstanding, but the steps taken were necessary.

One of the Muslim passengers, Atif Irfan, said the family probably would not fly home with AirTran because members had already booked tickets on another airline, but appreciated the apology.

"It's definitely nice to hear," he said.

Irfan said when he boarded the flight Thursday, he mentioned something to his wife and sister-in-law about having to sit in the back. His sister-in-law replied that she believed the back of the airplane was the safest, but Irfan believed it was better to be by the wings.

"She said, 'Yes, I guess it makes sense not to be close to the engine in case something happens," Irfan recalled Friday. "It was a very benign conversation."

Questioned by air marshals
Shortly after taking their seats, members of the group was approached by federal air marshals and taken off the plane, Irfan said. They stood in the jet bridge connected to the airport and answered questions while other passengers exited and glared at them.

Irfan said he thought he and the others were profiled because of their appearance. The men had beards and the women wore headscarves, traditional Muslim attire.

"My wife and I are generally very careful about what we say when we step on the plane," he said, adding that they have received suspicious looks in the past. "We're used to this sort of thing — but obviously not to this extent."

Irfan, 29, is a lawyer who lives in Alexandria, Va. He was traveling to a religious retreat in Florida with his wife, along with his brother and his family, including three children, ages 7, 4 and 2. They were joined by his brother's sister-in-law and a family friend.

Federal officials ordered the rest of the passengers from the plane and re-screened them before allowing the flight to depart about two hours behind schedule. The family and friend eventually made it to their destination on a US Airways flight.

'We felt very disrespected'
Family members were upset that AirTran didn't allow them to book another flight. The airline said in a news release Friday that one of the passengers became irate, made inappropriate comments and had to be escorted away from a gate podium by local law enforcement.

"We felt very disrespected," Irfan said. He said FBI agents had cleared their names and asked AirTran to put them on another flight, but to no avail.

Christopher White, a federal Transportation Security Administration spokesman, said the situation was handled appropriately.

White said the pilot, after being informed of the remarks, requested that two federal air marshals on board remove the nine passengers. TSA then alerted authorities, including the FBI, which conducted an investigation. Once authorities determined there was no threat, it was up to the airline whether to allow the family to reboard.

"If the pilot is uncomfortable with someone flying on their plane, that's their decision," White said.

Discount carrier AirTran Airways is a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings Inc. Its hub is in Atlanta.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 01/04/09 3:25pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

I don't think the passengers heard anything specific enough to warrant the nine American Muslims to be taken off the plane.

Very sad.

I was a nervous flyer even before 911. If they heard the conversations I was holding they probably would have thrown me off.
[Edited 1/4/09 15:26pm]
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 01/04/09 3:39pm

Vendetta1

I hope they sue the hell out of the airline.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 01/04/09 3:55pm

IAintTheOne

Vendetta1 said:

I hope they sue the hell out of the airline.


Me too we live in this "Politically correct" bullshit way of thinking it was never ever like this. People become uptight of what not to say or what is appropriate. It all seems like this country is like " see,hear and speak no evil" bullshit I say. I hope they sue the fuckin pants off of the airline.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > General Discussion > 9 Muslim passengers removed from jet