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Printablemeow85 said: ZombieKitten said: I'd agree with you that first time usually wouldn't be particularly special, except mine WAS stand-out, it was in the shower, and I was sooooo ready for it   Good for you. 
I was speaking more in the general sense though. Our society makes this huge deal about virginity and losing it, but it's just a thing that happens, really. For some people it will be remarkable, for some it will not. 
yup, I know, and therefore young women can have these almost impossible expectations that are rarely met, I think I didn't think it was gonna be all that, but I was pleasantly surprised | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: Good for you.
I was speaking more in the general sense though. Our society makes this huge deal about virginity and losing it, but it's just a thing that happens, really. For some people it will be remarkable, for some it will not.
yup, I know, and therefore young women can have these almost impossible expectations that are rarely met, I think I didn't think it was gonna be all that, but I was pleasantly surprised Some young people -girls especially -have a hard time seperating sex and love. Being each other's "first" isn't really a guarantee of anything, but it's such a romantic idea that it persists."A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said:
yup, I know, and therefore young women can have these almost impossible expectations that are rarely met, I think I didn't think it was gonna be all that, but I was pleasantly surprised Some young people -girls especially -have a hard time seperating sex and love. Being each other's "first" isn't really a guarantee of anything, but it's such a romantic idea that it persists. I'm not young anymore, but I've had that problem all my sexually active life, I fell in love with all of my sexual partners. | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: Some young people -girls especially -have a hard time seperating sex and love. Being each other's "first" isn't really a guarantee of anything, but it's such a romantic idea that it persists. I'm not young anymore, but I've had that problem all my sexually active life, I fell in love with all of my sexual partners.
Sorry. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said: I'm not young anymore, but I've had that problem all my sexually active life, I fell in love with all of my sexual partners.
Sorry.  | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: Some young people -girls especially -have a hard time seperating sex and love. Being each other's "first" isn't really a guarantee of anything, but it's such a romantic idea that it persists. I'm not young anymore, but I've had that problem all my sexually active life, I fell in love with all of my sexual partners.that has to do with that hormone we have... that binds us to men  (which I don't like at all lol .. men don't have that ) | |
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Flowers2 said: ZombieKitten said: I'm not young anymore, but I've had that problem all my sexually active life, I fell in love with all of my sexual partners.that has to do with that hormone we have... that binds us to men (which I don't like at all lol .. men don't have that ) it's the same one that binds us to our babies, oxytocin(sp) skin on skin contact causes us to get a rush with that stuff and we think we are in love. Men do get it too, but you can help him along with a little injection 
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ZombieKitten said: Flowers2 said: that has to do with that hormone we have... that binds us to men (which I don't like at all lol .. men don't have that ) it's the same one that binds us to our babies, oxytocin(sp) skin on skin contact causes us to get a rush with that stuff and we think we are in love. Men do get it too, but you can help him along with a little injection
oh they do have it.. well they sure can turn it off when they feel like it lol.... | |
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Flowers2 said: ZombieKitten said: it's the same one that binds us to our babies, oxytocin(sp) skin on skin contact causes us to get a rush with that stuff and we think we are in love. Men do get it too, but you can help him along with a little injection
oh they do have it.. well they sure can turn it off when they feel like it lol.... they can do it really easily by thinking about football or something, since their brain can't do both at the same time | |
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ZombieKitten said: meow85 said: Some young people -girls especially -have a hard time seperating sex and love. Being each other's "first" isn't really a guarantee of anything, but it's such a romantic idea that it persists. I'm not young anymore, but I've had that problem all my sexually active life, I fell in love with all of my sexual partners.That's really not unusual....so did I. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Flowers2 said: oh they do have it.. well they sure can turn it off when they feel like it lol.... they can do it really easily by thinking about football or something, since their brain can't do both at the same timeit's ok though, cause they can't turn off the physical aspect, whereas us women can turn that stuff off in an instant... everything seems to even out.. | |
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Flowers2 said: ZombieKitten said: I'm not young anymore, but I've had that problem all my sexually active life, I fell in love with all of my sexual partners.that has to do with that hormone we have... that binds us to men (which I don't like at all lol .. men don't have that ) We don't all have that though. To a degree, yes, but I've got to wonder how much of it has been social conditioning and how much is truly because of our hormones. I'm walking, talking proof that women need not fall in love with everyone they've been with. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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I considered losing my virginity the first time I ever had actual sexual intercourse..
but, I never actually did ANYTHING else before that so I can't really say. | |
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baroque said: to me virginity is somewhat a state of mind.It is a concept thought to us based on our cultural norms, religious norms, etc. but is virginity real? In my opinion, its totally irrelevant. certain people use this concept known as virginity to make people who are more comfortable with their sexuality feel bad about themselves. others make fun of those who are still virgins. then there is a thing called virgin worship, which i find disturbing. the concept of virginity should not be used.
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I think the only reason it's confusing these days is b/c people are doing so much other shit on a regular basis. Anal is a lot more prevalent (it seems), & to teenagers oral is something you do to pass the damn time  Shit is wacko - for me I was a virgin until I had old fashioned intercourse. Kissing & finger fucking don't count, that's all I did before I had actual sex    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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meow85 said: Flowers2 said: that has to do with that hormone we have... that binds us to men (which I don't like at all lol .. men don't have that ) We don't all have that though. To a degree, yes, but I've got to wonder how much of it has been social conditioning and how much is truly because of our hormones. I'm walking, talking proof that women need not fall in love with everyone they've been with. all women have the hormone for the bonding.... now how that hormone operates in different women is another can of worms.... but all women have it.. | |
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Flowers2 said: meow85 said: We don't all have that though. To a degree, yes, but I've got to wonder how much of it has been social conditioning and how much is truly because of our hormones. I'm walking, talking proof that women need not fall in love with everyone they've been with. all women have the hormone for the bonding.... now how that hormone operates in different women is another can of worms.... but all women have it.. I think all mammals have it to some degree, male or female. I've never had sex with anyone I didn't like a lot to begin with. If I did, I might have a different answer for you. | |
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I don't know anything about bonding hormones,
but for me, personally, I'll have sex with any chick, wether we like each other or not. I don't even care what she looks like. Call me old fashioned, but if a girl is gonna give it up, I think it would be just plain rude to not to do her. A true gentlemen does not walk away from a generous slab of the ol' poontang pie when it is offered to him. But that's just the way I was raised. | |
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meow85 said: ZombieKitten said: I'd agree with you that first time usually wouldn't be particularly special, except mine WAS stand-out, it was in the shower, and I was sooooo ready for it Good for you.
I was speaking more in the general sense though. Our society makes this huge deal about virginity and losing it, but it's just a thing that happens, really. For some people it will be remarkable, for some it will not. interesting topic. [Edited 1/3/09 6:17am] | |
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paintedlady said: Flowers2 said: that's a good question  (about the vibrator) ... I pretty much have your definition.. once a man inserts the hymen, her virginity is over.. If the vibrator or dildo is large enough to cause bleeding thereby breaking the hymen then yes. Tampons don't make you lose your virginity... so that's the technical explanation. But the mental/emotional knowledge of knowing how to climax is a whole other can of worms. Riding a bicycle can be a hymen breaking event. So does that count? I abdicated the throne in Ithaca, but now I am...
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paintedlady said: JasmineFire said: a hymen can tear for all kind of non-sexual reasons. And if the hymen regrows and the woman is non-active sexually.... is she considered a virgin again? the hymen doesn't "regrow". | |
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JasmineFire said: paintedlady said: And if the hymen regrows and the woman is non-active sexually.... is she considered a virgin again? the hymen doesn't "regrow". That comment made me  ..... had never heard that one before. | |
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shanti0608 said: JasmineFire said: the hymen doesn't "regrow". That comment made me ..... had never heard that one before.the only way I could see that happening is if a woman happens to have a thicker than average hymen. The majority of women have a very thin almost not even there hymen so once it breaks it's pretty much gone for good. Some women have a thicker hymen that i would guess would be more like regular skin than a thin, waif-like membrane. | |
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shanti0608 said: JasmineFire said: the hymen doesn't "regrow". That comment made me ..... had never heard that one before.It can't, once a hymen is broken it will not grow back however in some cases if it has not completely broken (as in most cases after sexual intercourse) and is only partially ruptured or torn scar tissue can form. This in itself can be a health problem and have its own issues however a "regrowth" is not medically possible.  | |
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mdiver said: shanti0608 said: That comment made me ..... had never heard that one before.It can't, once a hymen is broken it will not grow back however in some cases if it has not completely broken (as in most cases after sexual intercourse) and is only partially ruptured or torn scar tissue can form. This in itself can be a health problem and have its own issues however a "regrowth" is not medically possible. Thanks. Mine is long gone. Never bled or anything after intercourse the first time. | |
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It is only the confused who will allow their "virginity" to define them. [Edited 1/3/09 9:30am] | |
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To add to everything that was said
I always thought virginity was lost once mr lil' man or a finger or a dildo got inside, but now I'm not so sure
I lost my virginity by force 
For me, there has to be an emotional something there to make me even want to do the nasty wit u in the first place. I just can't see it happenin if I'm not attracted to u beyond jus physical. Sometimes I wonder how the hell people do that? I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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paintedlady said: Flowers2 said: that's a good question (about the vibrator) ... I pretty much have your definition.. once a man inserts the hymen, her virginity is over.. If the vibrator or dildo is large enough to cause bleeding thereby breaking the hymen then yes. Tampons don't make you lose your virginity... so that's the technical explanation. But the mental/emotional knowledge of knowing how to climax is a whole other can of worms.  live simply,love generously, care deeply,speak kindly, be loyal | |
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Darwintheorgangrinder said: paintedlady said: If the vibrator or dildo is large enough to cause bleeding thereby breaking the hymen then yes. Tampons don't make you lose your virginity... so that's the technical explanation. But the mental/emotional knowledge of knowing how to climax is a whole other can of worms. Riding a bicycle can be a hymen breaking event. So does that count? I don't remember ever having a hymen | |
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