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Detroit Lions Become NFL’s First 0-16 Team

By Mason Levinson

Dec. 28 (Bloomberg) -- The Detroit Lions lost to the Green Bay Packers 31-21 today to become the first team in National Football League history to finish a season with a 0-16 record.

The last full-schedule winless NFL season was turned in by the 0-14 Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1976, their first year in the league. In 1982, the Baltimore Colts went 0-8-1 during a strike- shortened campaign.

Since the end of World War II, the only other winless NFL team has been the 1960 Dallas Cowboys, who were 0-11-1 in their first year. The Lions’ franchise entered the league as the Portsmouth Spartans in 1930 before moving to Detroit in 1934.

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Yaaaay! It must be great to break the record for being the very best at being the very worst. lol
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Reply #1 posted 12/28/08 5:24pm

Mach

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OMG woot! Go Detroit !
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Reply #2 posted 12/28/08 10:45pm

uPtoWnNY

Lions should give Bill Cowher the keys to the franchise and leave him alone. In today's NFL, you can turn things around pretty quickly if you put together a solid coaching staff, draft wisely, sign some quality free agents and get a favourable schedule. Look at the Dolphins, Jets and Falcons - all had winning records.
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Reply #3 posted 12/29/08 10:14am

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hah! and I though the Bangels would've had that title a few years back... but hey, they made history alright! razz
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Reply #4 posted 12/29/08 10:24am

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That sign "0-16: So easy the Lions could do it" with the Geico Caveman was killing me! evillol falloff
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Reply #5 posted 12/29/08 1:03pm

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In all seriousness, Rod Marinelli handled it with nothing but class. He didn't make any excuses, he just accepted responsibility. I gained a lot of respect for him in the last few weeks. I'm sure he'll land on his feet.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #6 posted 12/29/08 1:05pm

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AlexdeParis said:

In all seriousness, Rod Marinelli handled it with nothing but class. He didn't make any excuses, he just accepted responsibility. I gained a lot of respect for him in the last few weeks. I'm sure he'll land on his feet.


Hopefully back in Tampa as the D-line coach.
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Reply #7 posted 12/29/08 4:45pm

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AlexdeParis said:

In all seriousness, Rod Marinelli handled it with nothing but class. He didn't make any excuses, he just accepted responsibility. I gained a lot of respect for him in the last few weeks. I'm sure he'll land on his feet.


Indeed. Sadly, he will likely never get another shot unless he knocks it out as D-Coordinator somewhere else. As poorly constructed as it was, the Lions team fought hard and were competitive in many if not most of the games it was in. That's a tribute to Marinelli. He made his own mistakes, but he was better than 0-Season.
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Reply #8 posted 12/29/08 5:00pm

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AlexdeParis said:

In all seriousness, Rod Marinelli handled it with nothing but class. He didn't make any excuses, he just accepted responsibility. I gained a lot of respect for him in the last few weeks. I'm sure he'll land on his feet.


I put half the blame on Matt Millen. As GM, he f***ed the Lions organization up! disbelief lol

The other half of the blame goes to the team owner William Ford. The old man is so out of touch with today's football fans that he's better off selling the team.

But who would buy the Lions?
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Reply #9 posted 12/29/08 7:11pm

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namepeace said:

AlexdeParis said:

In all seriousness, Rod Marinelli handled it with nothing but class. He didn't make any excuses, he just accepted responsibility. I gained a lot of respect for him in the last few weeks. I'm sure he'll land on his feet.


Indeed. Sadly, he will likely never get another shot unless he knocks it out as D-Coordinator somewhere else. As poorly constructed as it was, the Lions team fought hard and were competitive in many if not most of the games it was in. That's a tribute to Marinelli. He made his own mistakes, but he was better than 0-Season.

Yeah, they did fight hard and, like he said, they never gave up. I'm not even sure they're the worst team this season (well, OK, they probably are, but it's not as clear as it seems). It's a little like last year -- even though Miami went 1-15, I still think Atlanta was in worse shape at the end of the year.

Speaking of which, I hope the Miami and Atlanta coaches share the Coach of the Year award. They may be the two best candidates in the last decade (at least). Of course, Harbaugh in Baltimore deserves a lot of consideration as well. I know the NFL schedule gives last-place teams a shot the following year, but they all did a hell of a job. I normally hate when they allow ties (I'm still rolleyes over Brett Favre sharing that MVP when they know damn well Barry Sanders deserved it outright), but I'd make an exception this year.
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Reply #10 posted 12/30/08 9:53am

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AlexdeParis said:

Yeah, they did fight hard and, like he said, they never gave up. I'm not even sure they're the worst team this season (well, OK, they probably are, but it's not as clear as it seems). It's a little like last year -- even though Miami went 1-15, I still think Atlanta was in worse shape at the end of the year.


Tampa Bay and Cincinnati had worse teams in the 80's and 90's, I think. Miami 2007 reminds me of Detroit 2008. The Falcons were simply devastated 12 months ago.

Speaking of which, I hope the Miami and Atlanta coaches share the Coach of the Year award. They may be the two best candidates in the last decade (at least). Of course, Harbaugh in Baltimore deserves a lot of consideration as well. I know the NFL schedule gives last-place teams a shot the following year, but they all did a hell of a job. I normally hate when they allow ties (I'm still rolleyes over Brett Favre sharing that MVP when they know damn well Barry Sanders deserved it outright), but I'd make an exception this year.


I'd give it to Mike Smith over Sparano, if only because Parcells looms large over the latter. Smith had to unite a team already divided over the Vick saga (not to mention the city itself) behind a rookie quarterback. But I'd also put good words in for these coaches:

Tom Coughlin -- for proving the Super Bowl was no fluke and keeping the champs on top of a tough division despite losing an elite pass rusher (Osi U.) and the MASSIVE distractions posed by Plaxico Burress.

Jeff Fisher -- for keeping a team that could have fallen apart after the VY debacle focused, behind an aging, previously shell-shocked/turnover-prone vet at QB, an outstanding defense, also in a tough division.

John Harbaugh -- I'm still trying to figure out how he did it, with so many aging defensive leaders/prima donnas (depending on the moment), no true offensive gamebreakers and a rookie QB from a small school. I thought this team might top out at 9 wins.

Bill Belichick -- Yes, indeed. They were thought to be too old and slow on defense, and toast when 12 went down. He took a QB who hadn't led a regular-season huddle since high school and won 11 games, and with a few offseason moves, could be right back into the thick of the hunt in 2009.
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Reply #11 posted 12/30/08 10:01am

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Mike Smith gets my vote cuz he had less to work with. But I'm loving the Ravens right now and I hope they go deep into the playoffs. woot!
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Reply #12 posted 12/30/08 10:09am

Graycap23

My team is just as bad as Detroit and they "won" 9 games.
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Reply #13 posted 12/30/08 10:57am

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namepeace said:

AlexdeParis said:

Speaking of which, I hope the Miami and Atlanta coaches share the Coach of the Year award. They may be the two best candidates in the last decade (at least). Of course, Harbaugh in Baltimore deserves a lot of consideration as well. I know the NFL schedule gives last-place teams a shot the following year, but they all did a hell of a job. I normally hate when they allow ties (I'm still rolleyes over Brett Favre sharing that MVP when they know damn well Barry Sanders deserved it outright), but I'd make an exception this year.


I'd give it to Mike Smith over Sparano, if only because Parcells looms large over the latter. Smith had to unite a team already divided over the Vick saga (not to mention the city itself) behind a rookie quarterback.

I hear you, but it's pretty hard to gloss over 1-15 to 11-5. He had them ready to play this year and amazingly expecting to win from the jump. The Pats are still smarting from the way they ran over them early in the season with Ronnie Brown and the Wildcat! Parcells didn't do that. Coaches get so much of the blame when their teams lose; it's only fair they reap the rewards when they win. I mean, could you imagine the outrage if the next coach in Detroit winds up 10-6 and division champs but doesn't win coach of the year?! That would be some shit!
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If nothing else, it should quiet all of my fellow Saints fans FOR LIFE...because as sad and pathetic as the team has been at points throughout their history, they've NEVER gone 0-16...at 0-14, they mustered up enough cojones to beat the Jets at Shea in '80 by ONE POINT!!! whew

Personally, I respect the fact that none of the Lions came out with a Dallas type of attitude....they manned up, shut their mouths, and played hard 'til the end...I switched back and forth between the Saints game and the Lions game and what killed the Lions was that they only had two weapons on offense...every play went to either of the two...at one point, the rest of the team only had 19 yards of total offense...granted, the D sucks, but I think that if another receiver had stepped up to take some of the focus off of CJ, the Lions could've easily won a shoot out with the Pack...
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
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Reply #15 posted 12/30/08 11:26am

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reneGade20 said:

If nothing else, it should quiet all of my fellow Saints fans FOR LIFE...because as sad and pathetic as the team has been at points throughout their history, they've NEVER gone 0-16...at 0-14, they mustered up enough cojones to beat the Jets at Shea in '80 by ONE POINT!!! whew

Personally, I respect the fact that none of the Lions came out with a Dallas type of attitude....they manned up, shut their mouths, and played hard 'til the end...I switched back and forth between the Saints game and the Lions game and what killed the Lions was that they only had two weapons on offense...every play went to either of the two...at one point, the rest of the team only had 19 yards of total offense...granted, the D sucks, but I think that if another receiver had stepped up to take some of the focus off of CJ, the Lions could've easily won a shoot out with the Pack...

Yeah, but they had to trade that other receiver away after Jerry Jones offered up all those draft picks. They would've been fools not to pounce on that! That was getting close to Hershel Walker territory...
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Reply #16 posted 12/30/08 11:27am

Graycap23

This record is misleading. Tampa lost 24 straight back in the day.
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Reply #17 posted 12/30/08 11:29am

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AlexdeParis said:

reneGade20 said:

If nothing else, it should quiet all of my fellow Saints fans FOR LIFE...because as sad and pathetic as the team has been at points throughout their history, they've NEVER gone 0-16...at 0-14, they mustered up enough cojones to beat the Jets at Shea in '80 by ONE POINT!!! whew

Personally, I respect the fact that none of the Lions came out with a Dallas type of attitude....they manned up, shut their mouths, and played hard 'til the end...I switched back and forth between the Saints game and the Lions game and what killed the Lions was that they only had two weapons on offense...every play went to either of the two...at one point, the rest of the team only had 19 yards of total offense...granted, the D sucks, but I think that if another receiver had stepped up to take some of the focus off of CJ, the Lions could've easily won a shoot out with the Pack...

Yeah, but they had to trade that other receiver away after Jerry Jones offered up all those draft picks. They would've been fools not to pounce on that! That was getting close to Hershel Walker territory...

sigh Yo ass just HAD to go thurr. sigh
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AlexdeParis said:


Yeah, but they had to trade that other receiver away after Jerry Jones offered up all those draft picks. They would've been fools not to pounce on that! That was getting close to Hershel Walker territory...


I can kinda understand that, but at the time of the trade, the same regime that blew all those other high draft picks during the Millen era was still in place...and it appears that everyone except Millen and Marinelli will still be in their positions come draft time...so rather than it being Hershel Walker territory (meaning Dallas completely rebuilt and dominated in rather short fashion), with the Lions it looks more like its going to be Ricky Williams territory (meaning the Redskins did absolutely nothing with all the picks they got from the Saints to swap draft positions when they picked ol' Ricky Rick)...
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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Reply #19 posted 12/30/08 11:49am

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reneGade20 said:

AlexdeParis said:


Yeah, but they had to trade that other receiver away after Jerry Jones offered up all those draft picks. They would've been fools not to pounce on that! That was getting close to Hershel Walker territory...


I can kinda understand that, but at the time of the trade, the same regime that blew all those other high draft picks during the Millen era was still in place...and it appears that everyone except Millen and Marinelli will still be in their positions come draft time...so rather than it being Hershel Walker territory (meaning Dallas completely rebuilt and dominated in rather short fashion), with the Lions it looks more like its going to be Ricky Williams territory (meaning the Redskins did absolutely nothing with all the picks they got from the Saints to swap draft positions when they picked ol' Ricky Rick)...

That's exactly why they need all those picks! It took a few receiver busts, but they finally got Calvin Johnson. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes... lol
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Graycap23 said:

This record is misleading. Tampa lost 24 straight back in the day.



:geek:it was actually 26 in a row....to me, TB's record will always be tops because they were consistently bad (only 5 games were even close in that whole strea), whereas there were a few games that the Lions could've actually won (both games against the Pack were lost late)...

...of course, I'm gonna HAVTA figure out if I can play these Lions against the '76 Bucs on Madden2010.... lol
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AlexdeParis said:

reneGade20 said:



I can kinda understand that, but at the time of the trade, the same regime that blew all those other high draft picks during the Millen era was still in place...and it appears that everyone except Millen and Marinelli will still be in their positions come draft time...so rather than it being Hershel Walker territory (meaning Dallas completely rebuilt and dominated in rather short fashion), with the Lions it looks more like its going to be Ricky Williams territory (meaning the Redskins did absolutely nothing with all the picks they got from the Saints to swap draft positions when they picked ol' Ricky Rick)...

That's exactly why they need all those picks! It took a few receiver busts, but they finally got Calvin Johnson. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut sometimes... lol


Dude....the Lions front office is like a FOREST full of blind squirrels....lol
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reneGade20 said:

Graycap23 said:

This record is misleading. Tampa lost 24 straight back in the day.



:geek:it was actually 26 in a row....to me, TB's record will always be tops because they were consistently bad (only 5 games were even close in that whole strea), whereas there were a few games that the Lions could've actually won (both games against the Pack were lost late)...

...of course, I'm gonna HAVTA figure out if I can play these Lions against the '76 Bucs on Madden2010.... lol

That Tampa era was worth it if only for producing one of the greatest quotes in the history of sports. I'm dying to know how many times some wiseass reporter asked Marinelli about his team's execution! lol
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Reply #23 posted 12/30/08 12:09pm

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AlexdeParis said:

reneGade20 said:




:geek:it was actually 26 in a row....to me, TB's record will always be tops because they were consistently bad (only 5 games were even close in that whole strea), whereas there were a few games that the Lions could've actually won (both games against the Pack were lost late)...

...of course, I'm gonna HAVTA figure out if I can play these Lions against the '76 Bucs on Madden2010.... lol

That Tampa era was worth it if only for producing one of the greatest quotes in the history of sports. I'm dying to know how many times some wiseass reporter asked Marinelli about his team's execution! lol

Despite their losses, the Lions were competitive this season.
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Graycap23 said:

AlexdeParis said:


That Tampa era was worth it if only for producing one of the greatest quotes in the history of sports. I'm dying to know how many times some wiseass reporter asked Marinelli about his team's execution! lol

Despite their losses, the Lions were competitive this season.

Oh, definitely. I already said as much. It's just unfortunate for them they didn't have the Rams on their schedule (or the Bucs and Cowboys in December evillol)...
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AlexdeParis said:

Graycap23 said:


Despite their losses, the Lions were competitive this season.

Oh, definitely. I already said as much. It's just unfortunate for them they didn't have the Rams on their schedule (or the Bucs and Cowboys in December evillol)...

You go too far, sir! lol
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Reply #26 posted 12/30/08 12:34pm

Graycap23

The Lions biggest problem is that they lack TALENT.
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Reply #27 posted 12/30/08 12:37pm

2the9s

Now if they could only somehow go on to win the Superbowl they would be like the Bizarro Patriots!
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SCNDLS said:

AlexdeParis said:


Oh, definitely. I already said as much. It's just unfortunate for them they didn't have the Rams on their schedule (or the Bucs and Cowboys in December evillol)...

You go too far, sir! lol

What can I say? I think the dearly departed Eartha Kitt said it best:


evillol
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2the9s said:

Now if they could only somehow go on to win the Superbowl they would be like the Bizarro Patriots!

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