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Thread started 12/08/08 5:13pm

ImAKawak

Photographers: What do you need in a good camera?

I'm thinking of taking up photography for fun and am searching for a camera, can you give me some tips for what type of camera to use or where to find professional advice on shopping for one? And what other things do you need to take good pictures?
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Reply #1 posted 12/08/08 5:14pm

errant

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i was going to say... film! but that's not true anymore so...


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Reply #2 posted 12/08/08 5:17pm

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A Nikon DSLR

A Tamron 28-300mm lens

get those and you're set!

(I used to sell Tamron lenses, they're awesome!)
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Reply #3 posted 12/08/08 5:22pm

horatio

just get a good one the first time.

one that can receive alternate lenses.

ask ZombieKitten
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Reply #4 posted 12/08/08 8:34pm

Mach

A Nikon
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Reply #5 posted 12/08/08 10:39pm

missmad

Mach said:

A Nikon



yep!
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Reply #6 posted 12/08/08 10:45pm

missmad

did u just want to start taking pics 4 fun and just standard size pic u could get a digital camera which is the camera i had b4 my love of photography began or if ur a beginner and want a SLR a nikon D80 is good. no point getting a D60 cause its much like the D40 but D80 is like D200 and D60 together, parts from both if you check it out.



a site 2 check out dpreview.com, awesome site on camera comparison!!!!!


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Reply #7 posted 12/08/08 11:41pm

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A Canon 400D
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Reply #8 posted 12/08/08 11:58pm

BlueZebra

get a cheap one first. I could buy a D80 and my photos wouldn't be worth shit.
I truly don't see a difference in quality between what ZK does or what Sammij
does. True, you can go way further with the D80 or another quality cam, but if
you ain't got the basic skills, your pics won't evoke emotion and that's what it
is all about. Practice A LOT with a small handy camera, take lessons and then
you can evolve to a pricey, feature-full cam afterwards.

It's not the camera, it's the photographer nod
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Reply #9 posted 12/09/08 12:28am

ZombieKitten

Why get a D80? There are lower end models that do much the same job - look at Fauxie's photos - he uses a D40X.
A D80 isn't that great anyway - I wish I'd bought a Canon mad

I would like a Nikon D3X thanks mr.green but first I have to win the lottery!!!
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Reply #10 posted 12/09/08 12:30am

ZombieKitten

BlueZebra said:

get a cheap one first. I could buy a D80 and my photos wouldn't be worth shit.
I truly don't see a difference in quality between what ZK does or what Sammij
does. True, you can go way further with the D80 or another quality cam, but if
you ain't got the basic skills, your pics won't evoke emotion and that's what it
is all about. Practice A LOT with a small handy camera, take lessons and then
you can evolve to a pricey, feature-full cam afterwards.

It's not the camera, it's the photographer nod


That said, if Sammi got a DSLR, the sky is the limit! - just look at Nick's Olympus shots vs his Nikon shots - the different lenses is where it's at.
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Reply #11 posted 12/09/08 12:32am

ZombieKitten

horatio said:

just get a good one the first time.

one that can receive alternate lenses.

ask ZombieKitten


nod as you improve you will find the camera holds you back. If you are serious and have a flair for it, it might be worth what seems like overextending on your first camera - borrow a friend's DSLR and see what you think? I have gear envy, so I'm never satisfied with what I currently have err
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Reply #12 posted 12/09/08 12:11pm

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if you are fairly new to the technical side of shooting, here's some good advice:

learn the basics of exposure first. Don't put that stupid fancy camera on auto and shoot away, you won't learn a thing. Buy a low end Canon, Nikon or Sony body, and spend your money on your OPTICS. nod You're probably not ready to tackle the full capabilities of the higher end bodies right now anyway.

There is no replacement for quality optics, not the body, not the software, nothing.


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Reply #13 posted 12/09/08 12:12pm

missmad

as someone said it would be good if u had the basic skills first and as someone also said it is the photographer not the camera.

take a look at the seascapes, sunsets thread, the pics i posted i used a digital camera- less than 200 dollars. i think it would be good if u get experience first with visualizing/framing pics etc and taking pics.


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Reply #14 posted 12/09/08 12:14pm

missmad

JerseyKRS said:

if you are fairly new to the technical side of shooting, here's some good advice:

learn the basics of exposure first. Don't put that stupid fancy camera on auto and shoot away, you won't learn a thing. Buy a low end Canon, Nikon or Sony body, and spend your money on your OPTICS. nod You're probably not ready to tackle the full capabilities of the higher end bodies right now anyway.

There is no replacement for quality optics, not the body, not the software, nothing.




right, if ure gonna do that u might as well get any digital one. good advice JerseyKRS
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Reply #15 posted 12/09/08 12:25pm

ImAKawak

ZombieKitten said:

horatio said:

just get a good one the first time.

one that can receive alternate lenses.

ask ZombieKitten


nod as you improve you will find the camera holds you back. If you are serious and have a flair for it, it might be worth what seems like overextending on your first camera - borrow a friend's DSLR and see what you think? I have gear envy, so I'm never satisfied with what I currently have err

A DSLR (is that a Nikon?) will accept alternate lenses?
What is DSLR though, is that a model type?
And this type will allow me to grow as I progress?
smile
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Reply #16 posted 12/09/08 12:27pm

ImAKawak

RenHoek said:

A Nikon DSLR

A Tamron 28-300mm lens

get those and you're set!

(I used to sell Tamron lenses, they're awesome!)

Sounds to me like this is what it's coming down to, after reading all the advice here.
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Reply #17 posted 12/09/08 12:29pm

ImAKawak

missmad said:

as someone said it would be good if u had the basic skills first and as someone also said it is the photographer not the camera.

take a look at the seascapes, sunsets thread, the pics i posted i used a digital camera- less than 200 dollars. i think it would be good if u get experience first with visualizing/framing pics etc and taking pics.


love M

I agree, and think I'm going to look into taking a class. nod
Thanks for bringing this up.
What good will the camera be if I don't know how to use it?
lol
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Reply #18 posted 12/09/08 12:31pm

mdiver

Good optics, Zeiss or Leica
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Reply #19 posted 12/09/08 12:35pm

ImAKawak

JerseyKRS said:

if you are fairly new to the technical side of shooting, here's some good advice:

learn the basics of exposure first. Don't put that stupid fancy camera on auto and shoot away, you won't learn a thing. Buy a low end Canon, Nikon or Sony body, and spend your money on your OPTICS. nod You're probably not ready to tackle the full capabilities of the higher end bodies right now anyway.

There is no replacement for quality optics, not the body, not the software, nothing.

The basics, nod and I know what you mean about just putting it in auto.
I'm interested in photos that can have some depth and perception into it that auto wouldn't be able to bring out otherwise.
(that's what little I remember about when I took a photography class in HS, depths, etc.,)
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Reply #20 posted 12/09/08 12:39pm

ImAKawak

All the advice was very helpful nod
Thank you all so very much.
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Reply #21 posted 12/09/08 12:40pm

missmad

ImAKawak said:

missmad said:

as someone said it would be good if u had the basic skills first and as someone also said it is the photographer not the camera.

take a look at the seascapes, sunsets thread, the pics i posted i used a digital camera- less than 200 dollars. i think it would be good if u get experience first with visualizing/framing pics etc and taking pics.


love M

I agree, and think I'm going to look into taking a class. nod
Thanks for bringing this up.
What good will the camera be if I don't know how to use it?
lol




classes r good. ur welcome, exactly!!!!! its like someone saying " im gonna be a writer" and never writes but goes out and gets all the things , pad paper, pens, notebooks , books etc" and that declares them a writer.
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Reply #22 posted 12/09/08 12:43pm

mdiver

ImAKawak said:

ZombieKitten said:



nod as you improve you will find the camera holds you back. If you are serious and have a flair for it, it might be worth what seems like overextending on your first camera - borrow a friend's DSLR and see what you think? I have gear envy, so I'm never satisfied with what I currently have err

A DSLR (is that a Nikon?) will accept alternate lenses?
What is DSLR though, is that a model type?
And this type will allow me to grow as I progress?
smile


A DSLR is a Digital Single Lense Reflex camera, basically like the old SLR (body plus lense) but digital formal
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Reply #23 posted 12/09/08 12:44pm

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HowComeYouDontCallme said:

A Canon 400D



I've been using a 300D for the last few years and was reasonably happy with that..

That was up until I bought a 50D last week and FUCK ME it's a good camera! I'm still tinkering about and getting used to it but the pics I have taken so far have been amazing..

(even if I do say so myself) lol
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Reply #24 posted 12/09/08 12:49pm

Mach

JerseyKRS said:

if you are fairly new to the technical side of shooting, here's some good advice:

learn the basics of exposure first. Don't put that stupid fancy camera on auto and shoot away, you won't learn a thing. Buy a low end Canon, Nikon or Sony body, and spend your money on your OPTICS. nod You're probably not ready to tackle the full capabilities of the higher end bodies right now anyway.

There is no replacement for quality optics, not the body, not the software, nothing.


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Listen to Jers nod

he rocks biggrin
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Reply #25 posted 12/09/08 12:50pm

mdiver

xenon said:

HowComeYouDontCallme said:

A Canon 400D



I've been using a 300D for the last few years and was reasonably happy with that..

That was up until I bought a 50D last week and FUCK ME it's a good camera! I'm still tinkering about and getting used to it but the pics I have taken so far have been amazing..

(even if I do say so myself) lol


I have always been a Canon man too.....this is what i want for christmas...

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Reply #26 posted 12/09/08 12:52pm

ImAKawak

mdiver said:

ImAKawak said:


A DSLR (is that a Nikon?) will accept alternate lenses?
What is DSLR though, is that a model type?
And this type will allow me to grow as I progress?
smile


A DSLR is a Digital Single Lense Reflex camera, basically like the old SLR (body plus lense) but digital formal

I see, since now cameras are coming out mostly digital.
nod
I was thinking of taking the class using my sister's old camera (35mm) first to just learn the basics,
I hope the principles of adjusting the speed (or whatever else) will still apply the same from that camera to the digital.

I hope, don't know if I said that right?
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Reply #27 posted 12/09/08 12:54pm

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mdiver said:

xenon said:




I've been using a 300D for the last few years and was reasonably happy with that..

That was up until I bought a 50D last week and FUCK ME it's a good camera! I'm still tinkering about and getting used to it but the pics I have taken so far have been amazing..

(even if I do say so myself) lol


I have always been a Canon man too.....this is what i want for christmas...




I would kill for one of those but it's way out of my price range, that's why I settled for the 50D

But one day..... biggrin
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Reply #28 posted 12/09/08 12:57pm

ImAKawak

Mach said:

JerseyKRS said:

if you are fairly new to the technical side of shooting, here's some good advice:

learn the basics of exposure first. Don't put that stupid fancy camera on auto and shoot away, you won't learn a thing. Buy a low end Canon, Nikon or Sony body, and spend your money on your OPTICS. nod You're probably not ready to tackle the full capabilities of the higher end bodies right now anyway.

There is no replacement for quality optics, not the body, not the software, nothing.


worship

Listen to Jers nod

he rocks biggrin

Oh, I missed that point about Optics,
JerseyKRS, what do you mean by optics?
Is that the lenses that you mean to invest more into rather than into the body?
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Reply #29 posted 12/09/08 12:57pm

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mdiver said:



I have always been a Canon man too.....



My first SLR was the Canon AE1-Program back in about 1984/5 and I've stuck with Canon ever since
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