independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > General Discussion > Oh Jill!!!! (and other Coca Cola haters)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 12/25/08 12:36pm

ArielB

Oh Jill!!!! (and other Coca Cola haters)

I was right, when I told you Santa loves Coca Cola.

http://ca.answers.yahoo.c...742AAX6j0b



In ancient times our ancestors found it difficult to deal with the harsh Winter season... obviously with out the modern comforts we all enjoy. A mild Winter was always something they longed for, and often tried to appears the forces of Nature with various religious activities. The Pagan Vikings would dress someone up to represent Old Man Winter, and then make him as welcome as possible. The British eventually adopted this custom, and after the advent of Christianity, called him Old Father Christmas. He was welcomed into each household to enjoy all the Feasting and festivities. He was plied with Mead and food to try and keep him in a good mood. It was hoped that these activities would make for a mild Winter and a good Spring. Much later, this ancient Pagan figure, was confused with Santa Claus, and today most think of them as one in the same. Actually "Santa Claus", as he is most commonly known, started out as a Christian Monk who died in 345 CE. and who eventually gained sainthood. Needless to say, he eventually became more popular than "the Christ" and was burned in effigy by the French clergy, in the middle part of the 20th century! Finally, in 1969 CE, Pope Paul VI demoted him in non-saint status! Today, the fat, jolly, red suited Old Man is actually an invention of the Coca-Cola Company. Strange, but true! In 1931, Coca-Cola hired an artist to redesign Santa Claus for their Winter advertising campaign.. Red and white are the official colours of Coca-Cola, hence the Old Man's new outfit. Since that time, the look of Santa Claus has been carved in stone.
Years ago Father Christmas or Old Man Winter, would appear in green, purple, blue, blue-black or even brown, often trimmed with brown, black or white furs. Sometimes even covered head to toe in fur skins. But no more! True to Corporate America's goal's, now all see him as the fat jolly man in the red suit, with lots of goodies for everyone.

Before Clement Moore write his famous poem in 1822, Father Christmas travelled by foot or by giant White horse (Sleiper? - Odin's eight legged horse). But Moore, a very learned man and professor of Literature, changed all of that forever when he introduced the idea of reindeer pulling Santa's sleigh. This was not done on a casual whim, but came from an ancient Finnish legend about "Old Man Winter". The Ancient Finns belied that Old Man Winter drove the reindeer down the mountains, into the lowlands each year with the coming of the cold (food source?). Moore grafted part of this Finnish legend onto the existing Farther Christmas. Why eight reindeer? Some scholars have speculated that the professor was having some fun with the general populace by perking up his tale with a scholarly reference to Odin, who rides an eight legged horse. As well known author, Desmond Morris has stated:

"Odin's horse carried the god around when, clad in a large cloak and hat, he set out to meet his people, dispensing rewards and punishments as they were due. There are clearly elements there suggesting that Odin was a precursor of the Farther Christmas-Santa Claus figure, and it may have amused Moore to incorporate at least one Odin feature in his new creation". So again we find that much of what we consider to be strictly a Christian phenomenon... is again, based in Pagan reality.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 12/25/08 12:57pm

shanti0608

I love it...drinking me a Southern Comfort and coke right now. Ahhhhh Cheers!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 12/25/08 2:22pm

HamsterHuey

Bullshit Ariel, you naughty munchkin.

The popularity of the image spawned urban legends that Santa Claus was in fact invented by Coca-Cola or that Santa wears red and white because they are the Coca-Cola colors.

In reality, Coca-Cola was not the first soft drink company to utilize the modern image of Santa Claus in its advertising – White Rock Beverages used Santa to sell mineral water in 1915 and then in advertisements for its ginger ale in 1923.

Furthermore, the massive campaign by Coca-Cola simply popularized the depiction of Santa as wearing red and white, in contrast to the variety of colours he wore prior to that campaign; red and white was originally given by Nast.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 12/25/08 2:24pm

HamsterHuey

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...anta_Claus

It is IMPOSSIBLE for coca cola to have invented it. Merely popularized it. Before you know it you will be telling people Oompa Loompa's are really tall and do NOT come from Israel.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 12/25/08 2:43pm

HamsterHuey

ArielB said:

giant White horse (Sleiper? - Odin's eight legged horse).


That would be Sleipnir, actually. What a shoddy research, Ariel.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 12/25/08 2:56pm

BlueZebra

BLASPHEMY !
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 12/25/08 3:12pm

purplehippieon
the1

HamsterHuey said:

ArielB said:

giant White horse (Sleiper? - Odin's eight legged horse).


That would be Sleipnir, actually. What a shoddy research, Ariel.

Yeah, apparently the look of Santa Claus and the whole reindeers thing is partially based on the Ásatrú god Óðinn (Odin), which has a long beard just like "Santa", and his horse Sleipnir. However, in Iceland we have 13 "jólasveinar" (Yule Lads in English, but the singular form of the word, jólasveinn, is how we refer to the typical Santa Claus in Icelandic). Check out this article here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Lads

Oh, and Gleðileg jól, org! smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 12/25/08 3:23pm

Dayclear

How can anybody hate coka cola? eek
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 12/25/08 3:23pm

ArielB

HamsterHuey said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus

It is IMPOSSIBLE for coca cola to have invented it. Merely popularized it. Before you know it you will be telling people Oompa Loompa's are really tall and do NOT come from Israel.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 12/25/08 3:25pm

ArielB

Dayclear said:

How can anybody hate coka cola? eek

I don't know. Some people are weird. Thankfully I'm normal.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 12/25/08 3:58pm

mdiver

ArielB said:

Dayclear said:

How can anybody hate coka cola? eek

I don't know. Some people are weird. Thankfully I'm normal.

neutral
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 12/25/08 3:59pm

ArielB

I like my answer better. I declare my answer as the truth. From now on, this is the truth you will all follow. king
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 12/25/08 4:00pm

hokie

mdiver said:

ArielB said:


I don't know. Some people are weird. Thankfully I'm normal.

neutral



smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 12/25/08 4:07pm

ArielB

hokie said:

mdiver said:


neutral



smile

neutral
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 12/25/08 4:09pm

mdiver

ArielB said:

I like my answer better. I declare my answer as the truth. From now on, this is the truth you will all follow. king


Have you been listening to the P+R lot?

PREACH ....
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 12/25/08 4:10pm

mdiver

hokie said:

mdiver said:


neutral



smile


lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 12/25/08 4:22pm

ArielB

disbelief

My girlfriend is siding with the nose picker. Shame...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 12/25/08 4:23pm

hokie

ArielB said:

disbelief

My girlfriend is siding with the nose picker. Shame...



I can't side with you! You're a Coke loving fool! biggrin
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 12/25/08 4:25pm

mdiver

ArielB said:

disbelief

My girlfriend is siding with the nose picker. Shame...

confuse
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 12/25/08 4:48pm

ArielB

mdiver said:

ArielB said:

disbelief

My girlfriend is siding with the nose picker. Shame...

confuse

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 12/25/08 5:41pm

HamsterHuey

ArielB said:

I like my answer better.


You like being alone, don't you?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 12/25/08 5:47pm

ArielB

HamsterHuey said:

ArielB said:

I like my answer better.


You like being alone, don't you?

I'm not alone, since I was not the one who wrote this. Just copied another's answer. Which actually is the most popular answer on Yahoo.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 12/25/08 6:14pm

Flowers2

pepsi rules!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 12/25/08 6:31pm

hokie

Flowers2 said:

pepsi rules!



highfive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 12/25/08 6:42pm

Flowers2

hokie said:

Flowers2 said:

pepsi rules!



highfive


highfive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 12/25/08 7:57pm

BobGeorge909

avatar

Flowers2 said:

hokie said:




highfive


highfive


highfive
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 12/25/08 8:03pm

Flowers2

BobGeorge909 said:

Flowers2 said:



highfive


highfive


lol highfive that's right, Pepsi folks must represent.. lol
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 12/25/08 8:05pm

ArielB

shame on you all disbelief
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 12/25/08 8:07pm

rushing07

avatar

I think what Coca Cola did was
modernize and secularize a certain saint.
They also gave him clothes that matched
their main product color scheme.
I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 12/25/08 10:04pm

hokie

ArielB said:

shame on you all disbelief




hah!
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > General Discussion > Oh Jill!!!! (and other Coca Cola haters)