abierman said:

it was a delayed reaction 2 racism brought on by the intense distraction of the $11 million dollars he was offered 2 record & tour

sexyAuntyFuka said:

that says to me that he didn't care much.....

paintedlady said:

some lines from the song:

lemme introduce you to the new talk

Shalai Lai Lai Halilili Hai Lo!
Hi Li Ba Lai Hey Hi Li Bai Lo!



wtf busta?

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this is where he stepped on some serious toes though:

I got Middle East women and Middle East bread
Big bitches, knock-kneed camel-toed groupie shit
Women walk around while security on camelback


I got the streets buzzin'
While I make you bow down and make Salaat like a Muslim

SCNDLS said:

then how do you explain that he did record Use Your Illusion I & II, which came out in '91, and went on an extended worldtour with the band????

SCNDLS said:

Ok, I'll take the bait.

Now its obvious that the Prince of 1992 was trying to fit in with hiphop culture. At the time it was the only acceptable arena for using the N word in public apart from black comedians

If y notice i said 'still emerging' hip hop culture..which it was and is even 2day


also

SCNDLS said:

Ok, I'll take the bait.

Now its obvious that the Prince of 1992 was trying to fit in with hiphop culture. At the time it was the only acceptable arena for using the N word in public apart from black comedians

If y notice i said 'still emerging' hip hop culture..which it was and is even 2day


also

sexyAuntyFuka said:

I don't see her post as bait at all. The fact of the matter is that this partcular saying goes waaaay back in black culture, long before the community reached a sort of consensus that using the word liberally was not appropriate. According to my parents, born in 1932 and 1944 respectively, the the colloquial phrase "Nigga, please" goes as far back as the 40's and 50's. My sister was born in the 60's, I was born in '70, and we heard adults use it with one another in conversation when they were in a state of disbelief or disdain towards something or someone. Prince was born in what, 1950-something...? I would venture to say he would have heard this phrase (and probably used it more than once) before many in the hip-hop generation were even born. If anything, it is an antiquated slang phrase that the hip hop generation in '92 got from US.
[Edited 12/18/08 7:28am]

Imago said:

I just had a conversation about the glaring absence of black women being cast as Prince's love interests. I love Prince to death, but I still call him Cap'n Colorstruck...I used to wonder if he had some sort of cataclysmic experience with a black woman that caused him to become a bit neurotic.

In high school, my friends used to tease me and say, "I bet you gonna marry Prince one day". To which I'd reply, "I'm black and opinionated - a distinct and definite impossibility"!

SCNDLS said:

Ok, I'll take the bait.

Now its obvious that the Prince of 1992 was trying to fit in with hiphop culture. At the time it was the only acceptable arena for using the N word in public apart from black comedians

If y notice i said 'still emerging' hip hop culture..which it was and is even 2day


also

notaprintztype said:

Didn't Prince date Nona Gaye?

Ottensen said:

I was finna say that I di'int know my 70-something year old aunt wanted to rock the mic when she uses that phrase.

abierman said:

It's not for me to explain how he felt about the situation ask him they are his words and feelings cuz all black folks don't feel the same about something. However, I'd venture to say that maybe it bothered him all along but he felt like he should keep his mouth shut for business reason OR maybe with age and wisdom he realized how ignorant that shit was. I dunno but he said it THIS year.

sextonseven said:

If he did, I don't think it was Pre-NPG/Larry Graham Prince.
Though I think he had something going on with Robin Power, right?
She appeared on Joan Rivers discussing him. She seemed to imply some sexual energy between the two of them.

1) Didn't NWA say some terribly disparaging words about Koreans once. It was marketed, sold, and I don't recall the record label ever apologizing. I was stunned people were on some talk show (I think it was either Geraldo or Oprah) defending their xenophobic stance.



2) Merle Haggart sang a song using the the N-word about a guy that discovers his girlfriend had slept with a black guy. It was a popular redneck "joke" song in my first high school growing up.


3) Axel Rose from guns and roses sang a blue collar, "common man's" song and used the N-word. the song was called "one in a million". The song also has a harshly xenophobic "Immagrants and f@ggots, they make no sense to me..They come to our country and think they'll do as they please. Like start some mini-iRan, or spread some fucking disease...".. Regretful lyrics since the song is so good.

A Couple of things that are not racist but I really disliked:

1) Katt Williams standups always involve frequent use of the n-word. Even in context, he uses it so liberally, it makes me cringe. I understood the point he made in his attack on Micheal Jackson when he said, "Fuck Micheal. He forgot that he was a n@gga. He forgot that he was a n@gga. He forgot that he was a n@gga." Although it's still terribly distasteful, I sort of understood the power of what he was saying in that context. In general, I just don't understand why he'd want to use the word at all.

2) Up until the Larry Graham years, Prince's frequent use of hot love interests opposite him in music videos and movies never showed a black woman. It was always latino or white. The added insult in Under the Cherry Moon was that the only black woman that the movie even implied had slept with Christopher Tracey, was the scary old "Christapha, ha ha ha ha ha ha" woman that causes him to run screaming.
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Imago said:

Why do some people just blow off racist statements by Michael Jackson, Public Enemy, Jesse Jackson, Sharpton and Farrakhan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...dissonance

Ace said:

I remember the backlash from comments by the latter four, but MJs anti-semitic statements are always forgotten it seems to me.

sexyAuntyFuka said:

The n-word has turned up on Prince recordings way before 1992.

SCNDLS said:

I think Saul Hudson never considered himself to be so black until maybe recently....

Much 2 learn y'all do have


Basically Prince's sway towards hiphop culture and trying 2 rap was quite an embarassing cringe worthy episode 2 behold...almost as embarassing as u lot trying 2 defend a man who has never embraced the black race until it became cool 2 do so

SCNDLS said:

I think Saul Hudson never considered himself to be so black until maybe recently....

abierman said:

Not necessarily true. Back in 1990 we used to run in the same circles in South Beach and he used to hang out at this live music joint we all frequented, then known as The Rose Bar; folks on the scene knew him as black even back then. But I would say SCNDLS probably nailed it. Back in that time there were ALOT of things folks were doing in the name of "business" and letting a lot of stuff slide because you had money, popularity, and social acceptance at stake. It's easy to put up with a bunch of BS when you're young, stupid, and getting paid with a glitzy lifestyle to boot...but once you grow older you look back in retrospect and realize what a bummer it was that you saw so much crap happen before your eyes, ya know? Maybe that's where old Slash is now

sextonseven said:

when

Imago said:

Axl was singing in character. These words were not coming from Axl, he was describing the attitude of someone else.

He´s not at all racist

sextonseven said:

That's not important right now.
When are we going to get to meet so this myspace no-friend bullshit can end.

Imago said:

What's your itinerary the next few months? And when we do meet, it has to be in a public place with lots of other people so I feel safe.