JustErin said:

Hence, your desire for him to spontaneously combust.

Imago said:

You ready for the ultimate breakdown?

I was actually going to tell you when I had had sex for the first time, but I think you would go crazy and probably hate me afterwards, thinking I was lying

I have to admit that the idea of fucking a fire hydrant is not THAT bad, though

violator said:

No, not him. I really, really like this dude and it appears that he can do no wrong to me.

I want a certain woman to combust.

Dave1992 said:

As you get older , like me, the idea becomes more attractive again

Yes, by someone I was already seeing and by this other guy.... I still want him.

Imago said:

Nah don't be so harsh, I bet you're just being overmodest! I mean, I have a look at your avatar and think to myself "This dude must be a sex-maniac"

JustErin said:

I'm afraid to ask...

JustErin said:

I think your mum looks good

Imago said:

Bingo!

And it has absolutely everything to do with feminism. You are holding women to a different standard. Period.

CarrieMpls said:

no it doesn't.
You're making it something it'snot.

Again this is about sex right?

Imago said:

Yup. It's about sex.

CarrieMpls said:

You're trying to get the last word in aren't you?

Imago said:

Clearly you are.

OK, Dan, explain to me WHY you hold that preference for women but not for men.

CarrieMpls said:

Look, feminism is more than just shutting a guy up if he has an opinion that offends you
I mean, all I've done since you attacked me is defend myself.
If that's the last word, than fine. You can have it.
I'll even pretend this was about sex the entire time.

violator said:

Yeah, yeah...it's him.

Dave1992 said:

She looks amazing for turning 60 this year!!

Imago said:

It has nothing to do with shutting you up. I even asked you to explain your preference. I just don't see what sex has to do with saying a double standard is OK. It's still a double standard.

CarrieMpls said:

Because men and women are different. Duh.

I mean, if a man is emotional or cries alot, most girls I know would get pretty tired of him quickly. is it fair? Hell I don't know. It's just the way it is. I doubt these women are anti-male because of it. It's just sexual preferences.

I'm not the one painting labels here or upset at them . It's sex.

CarrieMpls said:

And doens't he bone both?

Weird.

JustErin said:

Someone said 'No thanks' to you?

You want us to believe this?

CarrieMpls said:

Wait.

Where did I say the double standard was ok?
Are you sure you're even reading what I say, or just pushing your own agenda here and using me as the scapegoat?

I never said anything about the inherent unfairness of double standards.

What I said was that my own double standard for that doesn't mean I don't support a woman to be as promiscuous as she wants. I absolutely think women should be free to express themselves sexually in every bit the same way a man does. Find text anywhere that I typed here that disputes that. you won't.

What I said was, "not in my bed". A double standard? Sure.
But I never said it wasn't or that having double standards are ok. That's not even an argument I bother to engage in.

You're the one who tried to pull this into my overall (though implied) feelings towards women. As afore mentioned, I think women should express themselves as they want. That doesn't mean I have to be attracted to each of their expressions.
Again, where did I even bother engaging in the "it's ok or not ok to have double standards argument"?

Are we talking about sex here? I'd really like to know!

Imago said:

I'm not painting labels either. I'm just trying to understand your double standard and why you think it is justified.

So it's somehow un-womanly to you for a woman to have many sexual partners? I'm not sure what a crying man has to do with a woman who has had sex with more than a certain number of partners.

I've never offered sex unless I was in a relationship with that person, so I have never been refused an offer.

Imago said:

We are absoutely talking about sex. But saying you find something unattractive in a woman says something. It's saying you don't approve. Your personal opinion says something about you.

CarrieMpls said:

You're doing it again.

Imago said:

Doing what?
If you can't explain your preference, then I guess, so be it. We'll have to agree to disagree that your preferences say anything about you.

CarrieMpls said:

holy thread jackage


And what does that say about me, Carrie? I mean, obviously you think I'm don't have feminist "cred".

I'm dying to know.

That I don't think women have all the same rights as men?
That I don't think they should be free to express themselves like men?
What do you think it says?

Perhaps your overreaction to my 'double standard' says more about you than it does about me.




I think what you're getting at is why does promiscuity have to be a 'masculine' trait--ultimately, my personal opion on the matter boils down to that, doesn't it?


Should I have to have the same sexual requirements for men as I do women?
And if I don't why does that need to be sexist?

Like I said before, what if one of my preferences for a sexual partner was for them to be latino (which I prefer actually).
This says something about me also doesn't it? But does that make me racist that I have this preference?
I see no reason why I should be attracted to the same features in both sexes. And no reason why this translates to my overall views of what they have a right to do in their own lives. If that makes me feminist strictly for my vote and not my strict adherence to your own moral code, than fine. Or if that strips me of your coveted title, fine too.

CarrieMpls said:

You wouldn't have to ask me this if you actually read my posts.
It's in reference to your stating that I said it was ok to have double standards.
That somehow I was engaging in that argument, when I never refuted nor supported your statement from the start.
[Edited 12/12/08 13:03pm]

Imago said:

It's quite bold to expect your female sex partners to not have had sex with more than 3 or 4 partners when you have had sex with about 100. Just saying. Apart from that whole double standard discussion.