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Reply #30 posted 12/09/08 12:59pm

mdiver

ImAKawak said:

mdiver said:



A DSLR is a Digital Single Lense Reflex camera, basically like the old SLR (body plus lense) but digital formal

I see, since now cameras are coming out mostly digital.
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I was thinking of taking the class using my sister's old camera (35mm) first to just learn the basics,
I hope the principles of adjusting the speed (or whatever else) will still apply the same from that camera to the digital.

I hope, don't know if I said that right?


They do and yes it is good to learn your trade on a manual but bottom line is that you can bin digi easier and it does not cost anything to see how your experiments work.
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Reply #31 posted 12/09/08 1:16pm

ImAKawak

mdiver said:

ImAKawak said:


I see, since now cameras are coming out mostly digital.
nod
I was thinking of taking the class using my sister's old camera (35mm) first to just learn the basics,
I hope the principles of adjusting the speed (or whatever else) will still apply the same from that camera to the digital.

I hope, don't know if I said that right?


They do and yes it is good to learn your trade on a manual but bottom line is that you can bin digi easier and it does not cost anything to see how your experiments work.

Oh so true, with the digital you don't have to waste on the cost of developing the film,
the digital would be much more easier.

Another thing that came to my mind was the memory cards... another vital thing to consider when looking for my camera.
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Reply #32 posted 12/09/08 1:45pm

ZombieKitten

ImAKawak said:

mdiver said:



They do and yes it is good to learn your trade on a manual but bottom line is that you can bin digi easier and it does not cost anything to see how your experiments work.

Oh so true, with the digital you don't have to waste on the cost of developing the film,
the digital would be much more easier.

Another thing that came to my mind was the memory cards... another vital thing to consider when looking for my camera.


Once you switch to digital, you'll find your learning accelerates, because it allows you to experiment without the fear of making mistakes, because you see the mistakes immediately and learn from them.
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Reply #33 posted 12/09/08 2:19pm

ImAKawak

Thanks ZombieKitten.
I'm getting excited now and looking forward to this new development in my life.
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Reply #34 posted 12/09/08 2:26pm

ZombieKitten

ImAKawak said:

Thanks ZombieKitten.
I'm getting excited now and looking forward to this new development in my life.
biggrin

hug
no worries
just remember, a fancy camera won't make you a good photographer, but it could make a good photographer into a great one nod
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Reply #35 posted 12/09/08 2:37pm

ImAKawak

ZombieKitten said:

ImAKawak said:

Thanks ZombieKitten.
I'm getting excited now and looking forward to this new development in my life.
biggrin

hug
no worries
just remember, a fancy camera won't make you a good photographer, but it could make a good photographer into a great one nod

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Reply #36 posted 12/10/08 4:50am

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okay, an SLR is a "single lens reflex" camera. This means that it uses a mirror to show you what the lens is seeing, the mirror moves out of the way when you expose your film, so what you see is what you get. Other camera's use viewfinders that are a bit to a whole bunch off what the camera sees.

A DSLR is just a "digital single lens reflex" camera, meaning it doesn't use film. Having a good film background is a great basis for learning the digital side of shooting, but I can understand if you just want to jump to digital, most people (including me if I didn't have the film experience) don't want to waste time with film, especially if they won't be using it.

Here are three GREAT entry level DSLR bodies. (a body is simply the camera without a lens attached). Opinions vary greatly between the two (and now three with Sony's serious entry into the market), but all three will be a very capable learning body.

Nikon D60 (don't bother with the 40, the 60 gives a bit more to compete with the following offerings from Canon and Sony)
Canon Rebel XS
Sony A200

All three of those bodies cost about $500 and are made specifically for entry level users.


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Reply #37 posted 12/10/08 4:55am

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mdiver said:

xenon said:




I've been using a 300D for the last few years and was reasonably happy with that..

That was up until I bought a 50D last week and FUCK ME it's a good camera! I'm still tinkering about and getting used to it but the pics I have taken so far have been amazing..

(even if I do say so myself) lol


I have always been a Canon man too.....

Just like Peter nod.
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Reply #38 posted 12/12/08 4:32pm

ImAKawak

JerseyKRS said:

okay, an SLR is a "single lens reflex" camera. This means that it uses a mirror to show you what the lens is seeing, the mirror moves out of the way when you expose your film, so what you see is what you get. Other camera's use viewfinders that are a bit to a whole bunch off what the camera sees.

A DSLR is just a "digital single lens reflex" camera, meaning it doesn't use film. Having a good film background is a great basis for learning the digital side of shooting, but I can understand if you just want to jump to digital, most people (including me if I didn't have the film experience) don't want to waste time with film, especially if they won't be using it.

Here are three GREAT entry level DSLR bodies. (a body is simply the camera without a lens attached). Opinions vary greatly between the two (and now three with Sony's serious entry into the market), but all three will be a very capable learning body.

Nikon D60 (don't bother with the 40, the 60 gives a bit more to compete with the following offerings from Canon and Sony)
Canon Rebel XS
Sony A200

All three of those bodies cost about $500 and are made specifically for entry level users.

I'm looking into these online, this info is very helpful and the cameras are affordable. I think I'm going to start with one of these cameras but, do they as someone mentioned, receive alternative lenses?
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Reply #39 posted 12/12/08 4:41pm

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ImAKawak said:

JerseyKRS said:

okay, an SLR is a "single lens reflex" camera. This means that it uses a mirror to show you what the lens is seeing, the mirror moves out of the way when you expose your film, so what you see is what you get. Other camera's use viewfinders that are a bit to a whole bunch off what the camera sees.

A DSLR is just a "digital single lens reflex" camera, meaning it doesn't use film. Having a good film background is a great basis for learning the digital side of shooting, but I can understand if you just want to jump to digital, most people (including me if I didn't have the film experience) don't want to waste time with film, especially if they won't be using it.

Here are three GREAT entry level DSLR bodies. (a body is simply the camera without a lens attached). Opinions vary greatly between the two (and now three with Sony's serious entry into the market), but all three will be a very capable learning body.

Nikon D60 (don't bother with the 40, the 60 gives a bit more to compete with the following offerings from Canon and Sony)
Canon Rebel XS
Sony A200

All three of those bodies cost about $500 and are made specifically for entry level users.

I'm looking into these online, this info is very helpful and the cameras are affordable. I think I'm going to start with one of these cameras but, do they as someone mentioned, receive alternative lenses?


Jers correct me if I'm wrong but all DSLR and SLR bodies can take a vast variety of lenses from their respective manufacturers. For example, a Nikon body can take all these Nikon lenses:



Same for Canon & Canon lenses:



Third party manufacturers like Tamron (mushy) offer their lenses with different fitments. You can get the 28-300mm in an N or C variation to fit either Nikon or Canon bodies...
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Reply #40 posted 12/12/08 4:47pm

ImAKawak

omg
That's a lotta lenses.
And I await the answer too.
But can canon not use any nikon lenses though, but use third party lenses because of the special fitments?
(I think I got the camera down, now just still need to learn about these lenses.)
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Reply #41 posted 12/12/08 5:11pm

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ImAKawak said:

omg
That's a lotta lenses.
And I await the answer too.
But can canon not use any nikon lenses though, but use third party lenses because of the special fitments?
(I think I got the camera down, now just still need to learn about these lenses.)


That's the part I'm not 100% on either but if memory serves then that is the case... Canon for Canon, Nikon for Nikon.

Because the 3rd parties don't make camera bodies they NEED to make variable fitments.
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Reply #42 posted 12/12/08 6:37pm

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Each manufacturer's body will accept the manufacturers lenses. In addition to those, Manufacturers such as Tamron and sigma make their lenses available formost other mounts, such as Nikon, Canon and Sony. They certainly aren't of the same quality of Nikon, Canon and Sony's top of the line optics, but are a very nice alternative to the regular lines. I would suggest getting a nice mid range zoom lens (maybe a 24-70 mm) to start with. That's the great thing about SLR's, your outfit can grow with your growth in the hobby.

Happy shooting!!


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Reply #43 posted 12/13/08 2:54am

ImAKawak

Thanks so much for all the wonderful advice, things I wouldn't have thought of without the help! thumbs up!
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Reply #44 posted 12/30/08 4:39pm

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have a blast!
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