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Thread started 12/03/08 9:48am

Ace

Deodorants without aluminum?

Can anybody recommend one? Adidas has stopped making theirs. sad

(Bonus points if it's a national brand - i.e. something I don't have to go to some freakin' hippy-dippy health store to get shake).
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Reply #1 posted 12/03/08 9:51am

PricelessHo

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my brother has been throwing out stuff too lately. is aluminum in your deo really that harmful?
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Reply #2 posted 12/03/08 9:52am

Imago

Natural Food stores sell a whole selection of them.

I actually use one that doesn't have aluminum or propolyne glycol.

Tom's or Jason are brands that are reliable.


They're not as heavily scented as Right Guard, TAG, or Old Spice and the like. But they do work, so long as you have a good showering regimen. lol


Aside from aluminum, commercial products put a whole bunch of crazy shit in their deoderants. Nasty nasty nasty.
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Reply #3 posted 12/03/08 9:53am

horatio

PricelessHo said:

my brother has been throwing out stuff too lately. is aluminum in your deo really that harmful?



i think so.
i think it made my lymph nodes swell and ache under my arms when i used it often.
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Reply #4 posted 12/03/08 9:53am

ThreadCula

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Toms of Maine
Arm and Hammer
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
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Reply #5 posted 12/03/08 9:54am

Mach

Kiss my Face
Tom's
Jason's


make your own with essential oils and a carrier

peace! from an ole hippy chick to a "in the closet" hippy dude


lol
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Reply #6 posted 12/03/08 9:58am

Imago

FROM WIKIPEDIA on deodorant:



Aluminum neurotoxicity

Aluminum has been established as a neurotoxin.[9][10][11] Aluminum itself adversely affects the blood-brain barrier, it is capable of causing DNA damage, and has adverse epigenetic effects.[9][12] Research has shown that the aluminum salts used in antiperspirants have detrimental effects to a number of species such as non-human primates,[13] mice,[14] dogs[15] and others. An increased amount of aluminum is also present in the brains of many Alzheimer's patients, although this link does not seem to be causal.[16][17][18]

An experiment with mice found that applying an aqueous solution of aluminum chloride to the skin resulted in "a significant increase in urine, serum, and whole brain aluminum."[19] Other experiments on pregnant mice showed transplacental passage of aluminum chloride.[14]

[edit] Breast cancer

Rumors[20][21] surfaced on the Internet in the 1990s that antiperspirants have a link in causing breast cancer; these are now widely considered to be an urban myth.[citation needed] According to the National Cancer Institute (NCI) and the American Cancer Society (ACS), these claims are largely unsubstantiated by scientific research.[22][23] The rumors suggested that antiperspirants keep a person from sweating out toxins and that this would help the spread of cancer-causing toxins via the lymph nodes.

NCI discusses two studies that address the breast cancer claims: A 2002 study of over 800 patients at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Institute that found no link between breast cancer and the use of antiperspirant/deodorant;[24] and a study of 437 cancer patients, published in 2003 by the European Journal of Cancer Prevention, which found a correlation between earlier diagnosis of breast cancer and antiperspirant/deodorant use.[25] The NCI's analysis of the second study said that it "does not demonstrate a conclusive link between these underarm hygiene habits and breast cancer. Additional research is needed to investigate this relationship and other factors that may be involved."[26]

One school of thought, advanced by the studies of researcher Dr. Phillipa Darbre, hypothesizes that particular substances in deodorants, such as preservatives called parabens, or salts such as aluminum chloride used in antiperspirants, get into the bloodstream or accumulate in breast tissue, where they enhance or emulate the effects of estrogen, which stimulates the growth of cancerous breast cells.[27][28] The ACS and other scientists consider these studies to be early and inconclusive, but merit further research; Darbre also stated that her findings did not show causality. The main reservations have to do with the source and significance of the parabens or other toxic substances.[29] Michael Thun, MD, of the ACS argued that even if some of the substances in antiperspirants do promote tumor growth, the risk from cosmetic use appears minuscule compared with other known tumor promoters — from 500 to 10,000 times less potent than taking oral estrogen or being obese.[30] Kris G. McGrath, MD, continues to point out the relationship between antiperspirants / deodorants and breast cancer. One of his studies published in 2003 revealed a significant earlier age of diagnoses in those women who more frequently used antiperspirants and shaved their underarms, than those women who less frequently did these habits and especially than those who did not use these products or shave.[31]

[edit] Renal Dysfunction

The FDA warns "that people with renal dysfunction may not be aware that the daily use of antiperspirant drug products containing aluminum may put them at a higher risk because of exposure to aluminum in the product." [32] The agency warns people with renal dysfunction to consult a doctor before using antiperspirants containing aluminum.
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Reply #7 posted 12/03/08 9:58am

Ace

PricelessHo said:

is aluminum in your deo really that harmful?

There are theories that it contributes to Alzheimer's.
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Reply #8 posted 12/03/08 10:01am

Ace

Imago said:

Natural Food stores sell a whole selection of them.

Oh no! omfg boxed
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Reply #9 posted 12/03/08 10:01am

Imago

Ace said:

PricelessHo said:

is aluminum in your deo really that harmful?

There are theories that it contributes to Alzheimer's.



http://www.amazon.com/Tom...roduct_top
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Reply #10 posted 12/03/08 10:02am

Imago

Ace said:

Imago said:

Natural Food stores sell a whole selection of them.

Oh no! omfg boxed

oh yes ky
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Reply #11 posted 12/03/08 10:02am

Ace

ThreadCula said:

Arm and Hammer

You mean just take it out of the fridge and go to town? biggrin
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Reply #12 posted 12/03/08 10:03am

ThreadCula

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Burt's Bees Herbal Deodorant
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
johnart says: "I'm THE shit"
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Reply #13 posted 12/03/08 10:03am

Ace

Mach said:

make your own with essential oils and a carrier

You know me so well. lol
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Reply #14 posted 12/03/08 10:03am

Ace

Imago said:

Ace said:


Oh no! omfg boxed

oh yes ky

lol
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Reply #15 posted 12/03/08 10:08am

Ace

ThreadCula said:

Burt's Bees Herbal Deodorant

Did you know that the bees are disappearing?
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Reply #16 posted 12/03/08 10:10am

ThreadCula

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Ace said:

ThreadCula said:

Arm and Hammer

You mean just take it out of the fridge and go to town? biggrin



LOL not quite...


"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
johnart says: "I'm THE shit"
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Reply #17 posted 12/03/08 10:11am

Mach

Ace said:

Mach said:

make your own with essential oils and a carrier

You know me so well. lol



wink
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Reply #18 posted 12/03/08 10:12am

Ace

Imago said:

Ace said:


There are theories that it contributes to Alzheimer's.



http://www.amazon.com/Tom...roduct_top

Thanks! I heart Amazon. mushy
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Reply #19 posted 12/03/08 10:13am

Ace

ThreadCula said:

Ace said:


You mean just take it out of the fridge and go to town? biggrin



LOL not quite...



Thanks, Thready! Hope you're well. kiss2
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Reply #20 posted 12/03/08 10:36am

NDRU

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It sounds insane but I used the crystal stuff and it worked better for me than Toms of Maine or Trader Joe's



I still use the nuclear stuff like Sure on hot/very busy days
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Reply #21 posted 12/03/08 10:43am

Mach

NDRU said:

It sounds insane but I used the crystal stuff and it worked better for me than Toms of Maine or Trader Joe's



I still use the nuclear stuff like Sure on hot/very busy days


I often use the liquid of this nod

I take a needle and add essential oils to the bottle for scents smile
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Reply #22 posted 12/03/08 10:47am

Imago

Contrary to popular belief, our sweat does not stink.

It's the bacteria in our armpits that cause the odor to happen. Most doedorants work by using strong perfumes to hide any smell and by ingredients that kill the bacteria (which we eventually absorb into our bodies).



Mach pointed out that tea tree oil is a natural anti-bacterial ingredient earlier this year.
My next stick of deodorant will likely be Toms of Maine's which has tea tree oil in it.
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Reply #23 posted 12/03/08 10:51am

CarrieMpls

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NDRU said:

It sounds insane but I used the crystal stuff and it worked better for me than Toms of Maine or Trader Joe's



I still use the nuclear stuff like Sure on hot/very busy days


This stuff and Degree deoderant are the worst things I've ever put under my arms. My skin became raw and red and it was quite painful. I'm utterly allergic.
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Reply #24 posted 12/03/08 10:54am

JerseyKRS

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This is what you crave sir.

http://www.lushusa.com/sh...deodorants

I should own stock in that company based on our household's use of their products alone.....


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Reply #25 posted 12/03/08 10:56am

Imago

JerseyKRS said:

This is what you crave sir.

http://www.lushusa.com/sh...deodorants

I should own stock in that company based on our household's use of their products alone.....

purse






They have a coconut scented deodorant eek love
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Reply #26 posted 12/03/08 10:58am

JerseyKRS

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Imago said:

JerseyKRS said:

This is what you crave sir.

http://www.lushusa.com/sh...deodorants

I should own stock in that company based on our household's use of their products alone.....

purse






They have a coconut scented deodorant eek love


Why is that purse magenta? rolleyes


http://www.lush.com/lushlife/deo.htm


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Reply #27 posted 12/03/08 10:59am

Mach

Imago said:

Contrary to popular belief, our sweat does not stink.

It's the bacteria in our armpits that cause the odor to happen. Most doedorants work by using strong perfumes to hide any smell and by ingredients that kill the bacteria (which we eventually absorb into our bodies).



Mach pointed out that tea tree oil is a natural anti-bacterial ingredient earlier this year.
My next stick of deodorant will likely be Toms of Maine's which has tea tree oil in it.



thumbs up! wink

NEVER use straight tea tree oil on the skin unless you have lots of experience/knowledge of essential oils


peace!
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Reply #28 posted 12/03/08 11:01am

JerseyKRS

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We used tea tree oil to rid my daughter of lice a few years ago! woot!


























neutral


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Reply #29 posted 12/03/08 11:01am

Mach

CarrieMpls said:

NDRU said:

It sounds insane but I used the crystal stuff and it worked better for me than Toms of Maine or Trader Joe's



I still use the nuclear stuff like Sure on hot/very busy days


This stuff and Degree deoderant are the worst things I've ever put under my arms. My skin became raw and red and it was quite painful. I'm utterly allergic.


The natural Arm n Hammer stuff did that to me sad

I am certian degree would or any of those types as well

It's why yrs and yrs ago I started researching and creating my own things

I'm super skin sensitive to lots a stuff

lol
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