The one thing in Ren's favor regarding the tipping issue is that he mentioned the waiter was also the owner.

At my regular sushi bar, if the owner waits on me, he won't accept a tip because I just made a profit for him. I still slip a $10 or $20 to the sushi chef when he's not looking though.

If it was the owner, the argument of low wages for servers is moot. I would have still tipped though.

MuthaFunka said:

Oh please! Don't give me that! If you have a sit down breakfast/lunch/dinner then expect to tip unless your waiter or food is horrible. There are plenty of places where you can go out to eat....you pick up your food and go somewhere else to eat it!

MuthaFunka said:

Exactly!! Last time I checked, I work and earn to pay for MY endless summer...or in other words, got mine-get yours!!

CarrieLee said:

My, things sure have changed

I wasn't proud to give back ANYTHING,,,,a nickle with a hole in it, or a copoon I don't care.

reneGade20 said:

Then go eat at McDonalds!

CarrieLee said:

Sorry, but YOU don't get to choose where people eat. Simple as that.

reneGade20 said:

Exactly! I'll be damned if someone tries to tell ME where I can and cannot eat based on MY money!

MuthaFunka said:

Well then don't be cheap and tip! It's common sense. I'm not even a waiter and I know this.

MuthaFunka said:

You haven't met her!

CarrieLee said:

You're dictating what people can and can't do yet you're insulting people that tip you?

I'd make sure everyone in that bar knew not to tip you ever again if that shit was pulled on me and I ALWAYS tip. Usually 30%

CarrieLee said:

And yet - AGAIN - you're trying to tell people what to do with THEIR MONEY. It's true common sense to know you can't do THAT!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MuthaFunka said:

Weren't you all over them fools in Dubai over their party last week???

Mars23 said:

Hilarious, ain't it?

I don't understand why this is such a touchy subject.

What is so hard, and better yet what is so WRONG about tipping the waiter for their service? It's standard in the US and anyone living here knows when they sit down to eat they tip. If you can't afford it then don't go out! It's really simple people!

SCNDLS said:

Yep. But noticed I didn't TELL THEM they couldn't do it! HUGE difference.

MuthaFunka said:

seriously, she's quite the queen!

CarrieLee said:

being a regular, I think he should have been cut some slack.

CarrieLee said:

It's ONLY touchy for those that take it there. It ain't touchy for me: I tip when I choose to, not when TOLD TO. Case solved.

MuthaFunka said:

Okay, I'ma let you make it. . . this time.

Mars23 said:

This guy had an $80 round, honey. He demanded my attention when I was serving someone else and the continued to order drinks for all his friends coming up to the bar when he was ready to cash out. Normally I don't get customers like this.

Also when I have tipping customers all night I throw in a comp drink or tell them not to worry about tipping me at all for that last round. I am very polite and a fun bartender.

Thank you very much!

SCNDLS said:

"make" what?

CarrieLee said:

Then be more specific in your posting, sugar.

MuthaFunka said:

Well it's rude not to tip when you get the service you want and expect.

We will have to agree to disagree. I could never walk into a place, sit down to eat and say "I just don't feel like tipping the waiter today".

In Ren's case I think the owner overreacted....especially with him being a regular. Banning him from the establishment is only hurting his business more.

Mars23 said:

I know, I should have.

There are instances where it's not an issue. What it comes down to, for me, is if you go out you should know to tip. I never take tips from friends and will even buy them a drink for coming out...I'm not a TOTAL douchebag.

Just sometimes.

MuthaFunka said:

You lived in Texas Mutha I know you know what I mean. Nasty ass. . .

CarrieLee said:

I feel and I understand your point. And we do agree that the owner overreacted. Had the owner been me, I just would've thought he didn't have the money, or he forgot to tip, or he didn't like the service, I certainly wouldn't have gone after Ren. Now, had Ren done it a 2nd time, THEN I may just ask him the next time he came in and it would be "Is our service not up to par anymore?" and then see how the conversation goes. Because the bottomline is, he's still bringing in money to my establishment.

SCNDLS said:

Gal, I ain't been living there since 2000! Is that some new shit?

MuthaFunka said:

Exactamundo.

I'm not telling people how to spend their money or where to go to buy food. I'm asking to have common courtesy because let's face it, these servers are counting on this money to pay their bills and feed their families. If you're planning a night out on the town and go to these establishments you should factor in tipping.

Aaaaannnnd I'm out!....right after this edit:

When you're an owner of the place you have no say!

Ok now I'm really out...


[Edited 12/3/08 14:05pm]

CarrieLee said:

HEY HEY HEY...slow yo roll, Tina!! I did begin my post stating that I do tip....but I remember when I was but a lowly private first class, scraping nickels together to pay bills and if I had something left over to take the Mrs. and the kids out for a meal, we was goin' dammit!! The lack of a tip didn't deter me....

...but now, my wife gets on me because she thinks I tip too much...