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Thread started 11/21/08 11:31am

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Soldier accused of encouraging toddler fight club

A video that apparently shows two toddlers fighting as an adult eggs them on has sparked an investigation that may cost a father custody of his child.

Child Protective Services is investigating a father who taped children fighting.
The video, which went viral on the Internet before being pulled, has left Alicia Scheideger, the mother of one of the children, devastated.

"I was horrified. It's a baby cockfight just, like somebody put two animals up to fight each other," Scheideger said.

What the Video Shows
Scheideger's ex-husband, a Fort Bragg special operations soldier who had custody of the boy, reportedly filmed the altercation between his son and an unidentified, unrelated boy. It's believed to be his voice on the video encouraging the children to continue fighting.

"Go hit him back. I don't care," a voice is heard on the tape, which was filmed several weeks ago.

The tape shows one boy slapping and punching another who is crying hysterically and trying to cover himself up. During the altercation, one boy tries to crawl away but the other boy gets on top of him and continues hitting.

At one point an older boy, reportedly a brother of one of the children, apparently tries to intervene and break up the altercation, but he's picked up and removed from the situation as the two toddlers continue to battle. Two minutes later, the fight ends.
He's done. No more. It's bleeding," a man said on the tape.

The Investigation
When Scheideger learned of the video, she contacted child protective services and military police. Both are now investigating.

Scheideger say her son was removed from her ex-husband's home at Fort Bragg and was placed with a relative.

"My ex-husband told me that they had been fighting for two days and they finally just decided to let them have at it and just not stop them," Scheideger told ABC News' Raleigh-Durham, N.C. affiliate WTVD-TV. "They actually encouraged the fight and tell them to keep going."

The Army released a statement to WTVD-TV about the video.

"The behavior displayed by the parents in the video is neither condoned nor indicative of soldiers in this command or the Army," the statement read. "The command takes very seriously the health and welfare of all service members and their families. This command will take the appropriate actions as required and will continue to cooperate with civilian agencies."

Scheideger said she cried when she saw the footage.
"I mean, I'm their mom and I've been told by a friend that if I didn't know the kids, or it wasn't my kids, I'd think it was funny and I don't, I think it's horrible," she said. "As a parent you stop it, you don't let it continue and you especially don't let your kid get hurt."

This is truely disturbing. disbelief

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA...310&page=2
[Edited 11/21/08 11:37am]
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/08 11:34am

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Disgusting disbelief
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Reply #2 posted 11/21/08 12:37pm

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This is horrible.
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #3 posted 11/21/08 12:42pm

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hmmm Sounds like somebody REALLY loved the movie 300.
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Reply #4 posted 11/21/08 1:07pm

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paintedlady said:

hmmm Sounds like somebody REALLY loved the movie 300.


I did'nt even watch the video. it would have upset me even more.
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Reply #5 posted 11/21/08 1:15pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

paintedlady said:

hmmm Sounds like somebody REALLY loved the movie 300.


I did'nt even watch the video. it would have upset me even more.

I couldn't either, but it reminds me of the movie where the boys were made to fight each other to toughen them up. One scene shows a young boy beaten bloody from a fist fight.
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Reply #6 posted 11/21/08 1:56pm

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paintedlady said:

EmeraldSkies said:



I did'nt even watch the video. it would have upset me even more.

I couldn't either, but it reminds me of the movie where the boys were made to fight each other to toughen them up. One scene shows a young boy beaten bloody from a fist fight.


Does'nt sound familiar to me...
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Reply #7 posted 11/21/08 2:03pm

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Motherfucker..... mad
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Reply #8 posted 11/21/08 2:08pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

paintedlady said:


I couldn't either, but it reminds me of the movie where the boys were made to fight each other to toughen them up. One scene shows a young boy beaten bloody from a fist fight.


Does'nt sound familiar to me...

redface The scene in the movie 300.
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Reply #9 posted 11/21/08 2:16pm

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paintedlady said:

EmeraldSkies said:



Does'nt sound familiar to me...

redface The scene in the movie 300.


Oh! in your first post I thought you were referring to the video,and that people had watched it 300 times. lol I was sitting her thinking "There are alot of seriously disturbed people out there for it to have been watched 300 times.

I haven't heard of that movie,but it's doesn't sound like something I would be interested in seeing anyway.
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Reply #10 posted 11/21/08 2:25pm

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Motherfucker..... mad


My words exactly.

Too bad there's no law to stop stupid people from having kids.
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Reply #11 posted 11/21/08 2:29pm

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I'm beyond being amazed at the stupidity of some human beings. But I'm always amazed when they think videotaping and posting it to YouTube is a good thing.
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Reply #12 posted 11/21/08 3:44pm

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makes me wonder how many times it was done before he decided to tape it..
scary to think he may have done it before, he did say or indicate that the children had been 'fighting for two days' i don't know if i've ever heard of a toddler holding a 'grudge' that long..
i don't think i have..i've seen them fuss over toys and such,but not for more than a few minutes...
disbelief
but if 'dad' wants a fight so bad...
poor babies..


had to heard.. rolleyes
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Reply #13 posted 11/21/08 3:57pm

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no no no! shake batman superman
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Reply #14 posted 11/21/08 8:10pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

A video that apparently shows two toddlers fighting as an adult eggs them on has sparked an investigation that may cost a father custody of his child.

Child Protective Services is investigating a father who taped children fighting.
The video, which went viral on the Internet before being pulled, has left Alicia Scheideger, the mother of one of the children, devastated.

"I was horrified. It's a baby cockfight just, like somebody put two animals up to fight each other," Scheideger said.

What the Video Shows
Scheideger's ex-husband, a Fort Bragg special operations soldier who had custody of the boy, reportedly filmed the altercation between his son and an unidentified, unrelated boy. It's believed to be his voice on the video encouraging the children to continue fighting.

"Go hit him back. I don't care," a voice is heard on the tape, which was filmed several weeks ago.

The tape shows one boy slapping and punching another who is crying hysterically and trying to cover himself up. During the altercation, one boy tries to crawl away but the other boy gets on top of him and continues hitting.

At one point an older boy, reportedly a brother of one of the children, apparently tries to intervene and break up the altercation, but he's picked up and removed from the situation as the two toddlers continue to battle. Two minutes later, the fight ends.
He's done. No more. It's bleeding," a man said on the tape.

The Investigation
When Scheideger learned of the video, she contacted child protective services and military police. Both are now investigating.

Scheideger say her son was removed from her ex-husband's home at Fort Bragg and was placed with a relative.

"My ex-husband told me that they had been fighting for two days and they finally just decided to let them have at it and just not stop them," Scheideger told ABC News' Raleigh-Durham, N.C. affiliate WTVD-TV. "They actually encouraged the fight and tell them to keep going."

The Army released a statement to WTVD-TV about the video.

"The behavior displayed by the parents in the video is neither condoned nor indicative of soldiers in this command or the Army," the statement read. "The command takes very seriously the health and welfare of all service members and their families. This command will take the appropriate actions as required and will continue to cooperate with civilian agencies."

Scheideger said she cried when she saw the footage.
"I mean, I'm their mom and I've been told by a friend that if I didn't know the kids, or it wasn't my kids, I'd think it was funny and I don't, I think it's horrible," she said. "As a parent you stop it, you don't let it continue and you especially don't let your kid get hurt."

This is truely disturbing. disbelief

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA...310&page=2
[Edited 11/21/08 11:37am]



Just another black eye for the other 99.9% of the military that doesn't do this kind of shit to their kids...

....but...special forces guys aren't altogether there from the get-go anyway, so as reprehensible as what he did is, as a Soldier, it doesn't surprise me that he's SF....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #15 posted 11/21/08 10:24pm

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Good Lord, first the webcam suicide, and now this. neutral
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Reply #16 posted 11/21/08 10:27pm

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paintedlady said:

EmeraldSkies said:



I did'nt even watch the video. it would have upset me even more.

I couldn't either, but it reminds me of the movie where the boys were made to fight each other to toughen them up. One scene shows a young boy beaten bloody from a fist fight.

actually I nearly stopped watching that 300 when it got to that scene, I was crying my eyes out
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ZombieKitten said:

paintedlady said:


I couldn't either, but it reminds me of the movie where the boys were made to fight each other to toughen them up. One scene shows a young boy beaten bloody from a fist fight.

actually I nearly stopped watching that 300 when it got to that scene, I was crying my eyes out

That scene was disturbing to me too.
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