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PrintableZombieKitten said: honeypot69 said: It teaches one to be unselfish. There aren't many pros. Cons is stress and loss of money-extreme sacrifices. There really isn't a good reason to have kids. I think charlotte made a thread similar to this before.
 it's instinct and hormones that make us do it
yesterday I was hugging my baby Max outside while he sat on our fence. He's a pretty big boy now, but he is still a total cuddle-bunny. The cuddling part is the best part, but they grow out of it so fast  I probably have different instincts and hormones. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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as a parent, there are no cons to having children. Anyone who has children who says there are cons are selfish people, IMO. | |
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kenlacam said: as a parent, there are no cons to having children. Anyone who has children who says there are cons are selfish people, IMO.
Okay, let's go on with the judging: Having children is a very selfish thing IMO. And I never met any parents in my life who haven't told me about the cons. And I know some parents who'd be happy if they never had their children. Sure the majority probably thinks their kids are worth it, but of course there are many cons. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Serious said: ZombieKitten said: it's instinct and hormones that make us do it
yesterday I was hugging my baby Max outside while he sat on our fence. He's a pretty big boy now, but he is still a total cuddle-bunny. The cuddling part is the best part, but they grow out of it so fast I probably have different instincts and hormones. having kids because I thought otherwise my man would leave me? now that's being at the mercy of hormones if ever I knew it  (he'd already broken up with me once because I displayed no maternal leanings whatsoever - I know he would definitely have moved on because having kids was a priority for him). But I was foolishly in LOOOOOVE, desperately in LOOOOOVE  | |
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I love being a parent. Its the best of everything the children's father and I have ever been, or ever will be. They are amazing. I can't remember a single moment when I ever felt different. ...Not a moment where they caused me trouble.
As parents, The X and I have always agreed entirely. We ruled our homes with love but also an iron clad hand. This means to say, love prevailed but when needed, a firm hand took their backside ( barely needed because they knew it would be applied.) They were and are required to tow a line of respectable behavior and maintain good grades. We encourage them to think of their futures and laugh deeply. I think the greatest gift in this clan ( both sides) is to laugh deeply together. Find joy in laughter. Its healthy. | |
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Thus, no cons for me. | |
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Wow...this is a biggie and my daughter has a Prince.org account...so I've got to be careful here.  Hey SBO Jr. You know Mama loves you! 
Anyhoo... Cons: The terrible twos! They don't call it that for nothing!  Puberty! 
Shit! That's when they start thinking that they KNOW more than you do! Ummm...hmmm...yeah...it ain't pretty! Just think of how YOU were at that age!
The teenage years!  This is when if you're lucky...you find religion! Because it's the only thing that'll keep your happy ass from going to jail...numerous times!
Pros: If you make through without a record...and you've done your motherfucking job to the best of your ability...the Pros kick in full throttle... In their late teens...early 20's...You'll discover that they actually paid attention to your rantings and ravings. They will show it to you in ways...you couldn't have imagined and they'll make you proud! My mother passed away when I was 19, so she didn't get to see that but I take comfort in knowing that with MY children...somehow she KNOWS that in spite of it all that...I heard her! My daughter got a photograph of my mother from her Aunt...that I haven't seen since I was a kid and she sent it to me. If I didn't KNOW that...that wasn't me in that picture...I'd have sworn in a court of law that it was! When I was younger...I rebuked every single person that told me that I looked EXACTLY like my mother and there were LOTS! I was too busy trying to forge MY own identity! Yet, when I saw that picture again...even down to the way that My mother had her hands positioned...I SAW myself! That erased so many years of contempt that I had for my mother...that this testimony doesn't even BEGIN to do it justice! So for ME...the ultimate PRO...is when YOUR child...RECOGNIZES the YOU in THEM!! [Edited 11/25/08 19:29pm] I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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kenlacam said: as a parent, there are no cons to having children. Anyone who has children who says there are cons are selfish people, IMO.
OMG, you're delusional.  "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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I can't have kids. I'd kill 'em. Honest to gawd, when my cat misbehaves, I want to toss her out the door. A kid? Forget it. They'd never see their second birthday.
I've never, ever, for even a moment, actually wanted to have kids. I've looked forward to being an aunt, but that's it. Now, I AM a selfish person, I'll own that one. "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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RenHoek said: Pro = the tax break!
Con = they're yours for life! Pro = makin' 'em Con = havin' 'em Pro = reliving your childhood through them. Con = reliving your parent's raising of you, through them. Bottom line = I lurves me kids!  All of it.By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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Being that we adopted:
pro: that someone was good enough to give their child to a loving home. con: enduring the behaviors that are a result of bad decisions on the part of the birth parent. pro: everything, the hugs, the vocabulary, the laughter, the sleeping!! con: always being tired chasing the kiddo around pro: being able to adopt!! I adore him!!! | |
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bluesbaby said: Being that we adopted:
pro: that someone was good enough to give their child to a loving home. con: enduring the behaviors that are a result of bad decisions on the part of the birth parent. pro: everything, the hugs, the vocabulary, the laughter, the sleeping!! con: always being tired chasing the kiddo around pro: being able to adopt!! I adore him!!! I would love to adopt someday.  | |
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 Well it is rather scary when they crash a car
or need stiches - and yes raisu=ing children is expensive and all those other minor cons I would not change a thing - ever and I would do it all over again, in a heartbeat pros and cons are different sides of the same coin Why would you want one without the other - how silly
 I adore my kids - they show me daily how to be a better person | |
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"Studies reveal that most married couples start out happy and then become progressively less satisfied over the course of their lives, becoming especially disconsolate when their children are in diapers and in adolescence, and returning to their initial levels of happiness only after their children have had the decency to grow up and go away. When the popular press invented a malady called "empty-nest syndrome," it failed to mention that its primary symptom is a marked increase in smiling.
"Psychologists have measured how people feel as they go about their daily activities, and have found that people are less happy when they are interacting with their children than when they are eating, exercising, shopping or watching television. Indeed, an act of parenting makes most people about as happy as an act of housework." - Daniel Gilbert (author of Stumbling on Happiness) |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Wow...this is a biggie and my daughter has a Prince.org account...so I've got to be careful here.
Hey SBO Jr. You know Mama loves you! oh gracious no.. save her and get her out now lol ... run! | |
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Ace said: "Studies reveal that most married couples start out happy and then become progressively less satisfied over the course of their lives, becoming especially disconsolate when their children are in diapers and in adolescence, and returning to their initial levels of happiness only after their children have had the decency to grow up and go away. When the popular press invented a malady called "empty-nest syndrome," it failed to mention that its primary symptom is a marked increase in smiling.
"Psychologists have measured how people feel as they go about their daily activities, and have found that people are less happy when they are interacting with their children than when they are eating, exercising, shopping or watching television. Indeed, an act of parenting makes most people about as happy as an act of housework." - Daniel Gilbert (author of Stumbling on Happiness) I'm having deja vu here as I type that I agree with this  | |
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JuliePurplehead said: Skid marks
if only it WAS only skid marks  | |
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Ace said: "Studies reveal that most married couples start out happy and then become progressively less satisfied over the course of their lives, becoming especially disconsolate when their children are in diapers and in adolescence, and returning to their initial levels of happiness only after their children have had the decency to grow up and go away. When the popular press invented a malady called "empty-nest syndrome," it failed to mention that its primary symptom is a marked increase in smiling.
"Psychologists have measured how people feel as they go about their daily activities, and have found that people are less happy when they are interacting with their children than when they are eating, exercising, shopping or watching television. Indeed, an act of parenting makes most people about as happy as an act of housework." - Daniel Gilbert (author of Stumbling on Happiness) That's the thing. . . I'm CERTAIN that this is how I'd feel about it. And I have enough trouble getting the damned dishes done. "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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tackam said: Ace said: "Studies reveal that most married couples start out happy and then become progressively less satisfied over the course of their lives, becoming especially disconsolate when their children are in diapers and in adolescence, and returning to their initial levels of happiness only after their children have had the decency to grow up and go away. When the popular press invented a malady called "empty-nest syndrome," it failed to mention that its primary symptom is a marked increase in smiling.
"Psychologists have measured how people feel as they go about their daily activities, and have found that people are less happy when they are interacting with their children than when they are eating, exercising, shopping or watching television. Indeed, an act of parenting makes most people about as happy as an act of housework." - Daniel Gilbert (author of Stumbling on Happiness) That's the thing. . . I'm CERTAIN that this is how I'd feel about it. And I have enough trouble getting the damned dishes done. the increase to your workload is astronomical | |
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ZombieKitten said: tackam said: That's the thing. . . I'm CERTAIN that this is how I'd feel about it. And I have enough trouble getting the damned dishes done. the increase to your workload is astronomical I admire people who do it well. Truly. Cuz I couldn't. "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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tackam said: ZombieKitten said: the increase to your workload is astronomical I admire people who do it well. Truly. Cuz I couldn't. most people do it good enough, it's all most folks CAN do | |
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ZombieKitten said: tackam said: I admire people who do it well. Truly. Cuz I couldn't. most people do it good enough, it's all most folks CAN do As far as I'm concerned, if you get your kids through high school properly nourished and without having beaten them up, you're a ROCK STAR. Emotionally healthy is all well and good, but most people will fuck themselves up in that regard in their twenties anyway, so. . . "What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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tackam said: ZombieKitten said: most people do it good enough, it's all most folks CAN do As far as I'm concerned, if you get your kids through high school properly nourished and without having beaten them up, you're a ROCK STAR. Emotionally healthy is all well and good, but most people will fuck themselves up in that regard in their twenties anyway, so. . . you'd make a fantastic mother!!! | |
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ZombieKitten said: tackam said: As far as I'm concerned, if you get your kids through high school properly nourished and without having beaten them up, you're a ROCK STAR. Emotionally healthy is all well and good, but most people will fuck themselves up in that regard in their twenties anyway, so. . . you'd make a fantastic mother!!! By my own low standards? Maybe. I'd probably feed them, but I'm not so sure I'd refrain from beatings."What's 'non-sequitur' mean? Do I look it up in a Fag-to-English dictionary?" | |
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tackam said: ZombieKitten said: you'd make a fantastic mother!!! By my own low standards? Maybe. I'd probably feed them, but I'm not so sure I'd refrain from beatings.I reckon as long as you manage not to beat them ALL the time, it's OK. I've resorted to hitting my children a couple of times, and it was very emotional for all, I apologised to them, told them I made a BIG mistake and was so very sorry, and have managed to not do it again, because I remember how it DIDN'T solve anything and it made me feel like the worst person in the world. | |
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It´s a very intense experience.
Watching a child develope 1 learns a lot about human nature and 1self. It´s not easy and very rewarding. My child has given me a sense of home (something I´ve never had before) Child rearing is possibly the best thing in life. There are of course considerable sacrifices that 1 must make too. But I´ve never regreted making a baby. I am only 2.5 years into this so I´m proabbly in for some suprises. small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious! |
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Rightly said: It´s a very intense experience.
Watching a child develope 1 learns a lot about human nature and 1self. It´s not easy and very rewarding. My child has given me a sense of home (something I´ve never had before) Child rearing is possibly the best thing in life. There are of course considerable sacrifices that 1 must make too. But I´ve never regreted making a baby. I am only 2.5 years into this so I´m proabbly in for some suprises. I keep being told "oh boy wait til they are teens" | |
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They are the very best of me.....they make life worth living ....but they cost me a fortune | |
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Ocean said: They are the very best of me.....they make life worth living ....but they cost me a fortune
they don't have to though rice is cheap and so is clothing them from Salvos  | |
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ZombieKitten said: Ocean said: They are the very best of me.....they make life worth living ....but they cost me a fortune
they don't have to though rice is cheap and so is clothing them from Salvos  | |
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