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CalhounSq said: Rosewood was well intended, I appreciated seeing that story told. It had it's problems (dull overall, implausible plot twists), I don't think he directed it very well. I wouldn't call it a "good" movie but it did try to tell a respectable story. 
But I should confess - I have a HUGE bias against John Singleton. Not only have I met him on occassion & found him extraordinarily & unnecessarily rude, but he's cocky as all hell yet doesn't have the skill to back it up. A truly talented filmmaker wouldn't feed us recycled, unimaginitive shit like "Baby Boy" where Black men are portrayed as animals & Black women as baby-making whores... 
I don't sound annoyed, do I?? 
shank it... [This message was edited Thu Nov 28 2:50:10 PST 2002 by CalhounSq] I'm sorry about John Singleton being rude to you when you met him. |
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CalhounSq said: A truly talented filmmaker wouldn't feed us recycled, unimaginitive shit like "Baby Boy" where Black men are portrayed as animals & Black women as baby-making whores... but those are the movies that make money, not the pseudo-highbrow movies Spike makes...which gives us the next question: who's to blame, the black filmmakers, or the black audience? [This message was edited Thu Nov 28 17:27:54 PST 2002 by twonabomber] | |
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twonabomber said: CalhounSq said: twonabomber said: Mario Van Peebles is a better director than both Spike and Singleton...
  And he's made how many good movies since New Jack City??? 
CRICKETS He had more help on that movie than he'll admit to - the cinematographer should have gotten co-directing credit, SOMETHING...  it was a joke...like all of Mario Van Peebles movies after NJC... WHEWWW!   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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twonabomber said: CalhounSq said: A truly talented filmmaker wouldn't feed us recycled, unimaginitive shit like "Baby Boy" where Black men are portrayed as animals & Black women as baby-making whores... but those are the movies that make money, not the pseudo-highbrow movies Spike makes...which gives us the next question: who's to blame, the black filmmakers, or the black audience? Everyone is to blame really. I know only certain films get past the gate b/c the audiences eat it up, it makes $ & the studios want more of the same. BUT when you sell your soul & sell out your own people by creating that crap, happily perpetuating ignorance & stereotypes, you (John S.) gotta take some responsibility for that. It's bad enough his movies suck, I wish he hadn't gone down this road on top of that - Baby Boy was utter bullshit... I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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kondwanii said: I'm sorry about John Singleton being rude to you when you met him.
I'm not, he's WACK I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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twonabomber said: CalhounSq said: A truly talented filmmaker wouldn't feed us recycled, unimaginitive shit like "Baby Boy" where Black men are portrayed as animals & Black women as baby-making whores... but those are the movies that make money, not the pseudo-highbrow movies Spike makes...which gives us the next question: who's to blame, the black filmmakers, or the black audience? [This message was edited Thu Nov 28 17:27:54 PST 2002 by twonabomber] I don't think Baby Boy made much money. | |
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Wolf said: twonabomber said: CalhounSq said: A truly talented filmmaker wouldn't feed us recycled, unimaginitive shit like "Baby Boy" where Black men are portrayed as animals & Black women as baby-making whores... but those are the movies that make money, not the pseudo-highbrow movies Spike makes...which gives us the next question: who's to blame, the black filmmakers, or the black audience? I don't think Baby Boy made much money. GOOD!
But even if it didn't, it's those kinds of movies (ultra ghetto dramas & comedies) that continue to get financing more easily than a film that really explores African Americans as PEOPLE. I know that's true across the board but it's more prevalent in Black Cinema b/c there's so little product out there, the balance of good vs. bad is ridiculously off. How much you wanna bet Ice Cube's new Friday film is gonna make $?? Just the fact that a rapper can so easily land a 3 picture deal tells you something - they want a certain kind of product & Cube is ready to serve it up... it's not your booty, it's your beauty... WTF???  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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according to the-numbers.com, Baby Boy made $28,734,552, and had a $16 mil budget.
Friday After Next is already up to $15,746,000... | |
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