DreZone said:

Oh yes it does...he punked out...putting that shit at the end of what happens in Do The Right Thing..what a pussy. In my movie the shit burns down or the guy does NOT get the girl..like real life!

twonabomber said:

and if they did give him the money, he'd take the cast and crew on a months long vacation before production even starts

DORA said:

you didn't see malcolm x?

oh, forget it. it's too easy...
[This message was edited Mon Nov 25 19:21:30 PST 2002 by twonabomber]

Nobody saw Malcolm X? Now ain't that America
There was something for everybody to learn from that movie
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4LOVE said:

Mainstream America has preconceived notions of Malcolm X and what he was "fully" about..most only think he hated white people all of his life. I mean hell..people get up in arms over slang terms ...its expected.


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[This message was edited Mon Nov 25 20:00:29 PST 2002 by rdhull]

chronic sorry but i have to go with Jerry Bruckheimer -> here!!

CalhounSq said:

Chronic is not a very balanced person. That's over his noggin.


At least 99.9% of Chronic's questions are jokes.

2the9s said:

Indeed, 9s.

4LOVE said:

Quoting John Cougar. 'Sup with that?

I give it too Spike Lee but I like Both.both are Creative.

4LOVE said:

i've read his autobiography and seen the movie 3 times (but i'm not American).. i agree...there's a lot to learn from this amazing man's life..

jthad1129 said:

This isn't the first time Spike's had WHITE people in his movies or centered a story around WHITE characters - have you even heard of Summer of Sam? Clockers wasn't all about Black people, neither was Do the Right Thing.

Maybe you were joking...

CalhounSq said:

Somewhat of a joke. I remember Spike saying that he does not have to put white people in any of his movies if he doesn't want to, and why should i?, Woddy Allen doesn't put any black people in his movies.

Most of Spike's movies are not for me, not to say that they are not good, because some are. I like him simply because he opened the door for a lot of other good black directors just to get funding for their movie projects. Doors would still be closed if Spike would not have kicked them in. As a storyteller, he is OK.

jthad1129 said:

He said that because Woody Allens movies are primarily based on and shot on locations in New York and you would find it rare to see any person of color even as an extra...in movies set in New York! lol..he had the "Friends" syndrome..well..before there was a "Friends".

jungle fever had too many white people in it and it was good when wesley banged the white girl at work

thechronic said:

you are a straight up fool

He said that because Woody Allens movies are primarily based on and shot on locations in New York and you would find it rare to see any person of color even as an extra...in movies set in New York![/quote]


are you kidding me?! The melting pot of the whole USA, and it's RARE to see any people of color, even as extras??? What are you smokin?

no one goes to Woody Allen movies, either.

maybe Spike and Woody should team up and just make one bad movie every two years, instead of one bad movie each every year...
[This message was edited Tue Nov 26 10:32:28 PST 2002 by twonabomber]

spike takes more chances and branches out more. He fails more also.

jthad1129 said:

Im not smoking anything! This is pertaining to Woody Allen films! Go look at his films up to 1991 and watch..this is a known thing and he even spoke on it in RS in 1992-93...and Spikes comment was due to the even the NY film non-diversity as as well.Im not smoking anything and yes I can see the exasperation in how silly it is to see no people of color etc in a movie based in NY..thats the whole controversy of it because that was the fact of the matter!"dont tel me no different!" adn dont act lie Im crazy...it was brought up so I spoke on it.

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I believe that Steven Speilberg and Spike Lee are both great directors, but Steven Speilberg style is more changeable he likes to do films about real life stuff and fake imaginable stuff. Spike Lee he is more focus into making movies about real life stuff and not fake imaginable stuff movies. I feel with John Singleton he has more similarities to Spike Lee directing.

Who is better director John Singleton or Spike Lee?
[This message was edited Tue Nov 26 19:40:49 PST 2002 by kondwanii]

Supernova said:

I like that saying,it sums it up so nicely

MrBliss said:

Like you said you're not american.People in the U.S think alot differently than other countries.Not better,just different

kondwanii said:

You gotta be kidding me w/ this!

I'm begging you - name one, ONE decent movie John Singleton has made BESIDES Boyz 'N the Hood. ONE... I hear crickets

He couldn't hold Spike's cup of coffee let alone be on par w/ him, PLEEEZE. The only similarities they have is they're both Black men who direct movies (mostly) about Black people. Singleton can suck it!

That's just my opinion, of course

Mario Van Peebles is a better director than both Spike and Singleton...

CalhounSq said:

I respect your opinions about John Singleton vs Spike Lee.Yes, its true that where me see the similarites with John Singelton and Spike Lee both doing films about black and white issues. Have you seen Rosewood that John Singleton directed ? If you did see the movie, do you think John Singleton wasn't a good director in that movie ?

twonabomber said:

And he's made how many good movies since New Jack City???

CRICKETS

He had more help on that movie than he'll admit to - the cinematographer should have gotten co-directing credit, SOMETHING...

kondwanii said:

Rosewood was well intended, I appreciated seeing that story told. It had it's problems (dull overall, implausible plot twists), I don't think he directed it very well. I wouldn't call it a "good" movie but it did try to tell a respectable story.

But I should confess - I have a HUGE bias against John Singleton. Not only have I met him on occassion & found him extraordinarily & unnecessarily rude, but he's cocky as all hell yet doesn't have the skill to back it up. A truly talented filmmaker wouldn't feed us recycled, unimaginitive shit like "Baby Boy" where Black men are portrayed as animals & Black women as baby-making whores...

I don't sound annoyed, do I??




shank it...
[This message was edited Thu Nov 28 2:50:10 PST 2002 by CalhounSq]

I haven't seen too many Spike Lee movies, but "A.I" by Speilburg (via Stanley Kubric) is perhaps my favorite movie ever. Stop saying all that BS about Speilburg being too comercial. I used to think that too until I saw "A.I". And "Close Encounters" - that was one of the first movies where the aliens were viewed as good guys and the humans (authorities) as bad. That's what started that whole X-Files craze a few years ago (remeber that!).

I used to be a huge Indiana Pacer's fan back in 94/95. Does Spike Lee and Reggie Miller still trash talk each other today?

CalhounSq said:

it was a joke...like all of Mario Van Peebles movies after NJC...

toejam said:

i didn't think much of AI. may have been a better flick if Kubrick got to finish it, or if Speilberg had done it all in the fisrt place...