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Thread started 11/25/02 1:10am

thechronic

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Who is the better Movie Director? Speilberg or Spike Lee?

Who is the better movie director of the two?

I say Spike Lee because he doesn't rely on all the special effects to make his movies good!

He just doesn't get mentioned in the same league with him because he is short and black.

What do you think!

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Reply #1 posted 11/25/02 1:38am

Natasha

Different types of Movies . Different Genres. Spielberg is Better however I tend to like Spikes Movies More.
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Reply #2 posted 11/25/02 2:00am

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Their styles are totally different, so IMO it's not a very balanced question.

The "better" director is Speilberg - interesting stories (most of the time), cohesive storytelling, commands great performances from his actors, makes solid decisions all around & is pretty consistent.

Do I give a shit about his movies? Many times NO, though I was amongst the herd filing into Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan was compelling, and The Color Purple is still one of my favorite films despite the "controversy". He's not a hit & miss guy, you can pretty much count on him.

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Which director do I like "better"? Spike - daring subject matter, takes cinematic risks, does personal work that appeals to me greatly, great eye for discovering new talent, and though he may trip up here & there many of his movies great & kick my ass to this day.

  • Some I just adore for sentimental reasons - School Daze
  • Some showed me stories I'd never seen before - Mo Better Blues, Bamboozled, Jungle Fever, She's Gotta Have It
  • & some just kick ass all around - Do the Right Thing, Summer of Sam, Get on the Bus, Malcolm X, 4 Little Girls



But he can miss too...
  • Girl 6 was a disaster - if not for Prince's music, my seat would have been empty
  • Clockers, Crooklyn & He Got Game are alright
  • though I LOVE it, Bamboozled has it's problems
  • he shouldn't have had a cameo in Malcolm X - BIG blunder in my eyes whatever the reason


But Spike will always get mad respect from me. He could have easily made the choice to work within the system, make the money & shut the fuck up (which I'm sure lots of people would have preferred, lol) but he's got incredible vision & a voice that should be heard, I dig him...

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Reply #3 posted 11/25/02 2:05am

CalhounSq

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thechronic said:

I say Spike Lee because he doesn't rely on all the special effects to make his movies good!


LOL, Speilberg doesn't "rely" on special effects. He uses them (E.T.), sometimes heavily (Jurasic Park) but he can still tell a damn good story w/ just people & emotion (The Color Purple).

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Reply #4 posted 11/25/02 3:48am

stepinrazor

spike lee kicks spielbergs butt to the curb ..

lets give spike the same budgets that steven is used to

and u damn well sure as hell wont get no tripe like

amistaad. granted films like jaws and saving private ryan

deem on the genius... but what else has spielberg done

that really couldn't be done by anyone else.

now let me see spielberg try to remake "he got game" and he

will probably fuck it up, like he fucked up the colour

purple.

plus spike lee is from the hood and could probably kick

spielbergs ass in a fight too..

teheee .. i know that don't mean shit but it kinda counts
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Reply #5 posted 11/25/02 4:18am

MrBliss

stepinrazor said:

plus spike lee is from the hood and could probably kick

spielbergs ass in a fight too..




yeah brother! now this is the important issue...cause i'd say lil Spikey could headbutt ole stevey in the nuts...although speilberg would have all his army dude actors to back him up...but i'd still put my money on Spike! smile

as far as who is the better director....like most art forms...i think it comes down to personal taste



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Reply #6 posted 11/25/02 4:24am

stepinrazor

MrBliss said:

stepinrazor said:

plus spike lee is from the hood and could probably kick

spielbergs ass in a fight too..




yeah brother! now this is the important issue...cause i'd say lil Spikey could headbutt ole stevey in the nuts...although speilberg would have all his army dude actors to back him up...but i'd still put my money on Spike! smile

as far as who is the better director...like most art forms...i think it comes down to personal taste



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one must never forget the important issues..

granted those army dude mf's would be tough , but lets not

forget spike got son of sam on his side ... lol ..

and personal taste aside .. i don't fuck with no serial killer
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Reply #7 posted 11/25/02 4:35am

Thecherryloon

Spielberg, cause he's more diverse.Jaws, close encounters, E.T, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Jurrasic Park are as far removed from Schindler's List,Amistad and the Colour Purple as you can get.

He earned his big budgets by consistantly making films that appealed to the public.He started off small, see 'Duel'.

Spike's films seem to stay within what he knows and is comfortable with.He's more introspective.I don't think Spike would know what to do with a big budget to be honest.'Do the Right Thing' is a classic, i can take or leave the rest of what i've seen of his.
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Reply #8 posted 11/25/02 4:51am

stepinrazor

Thecherryloon said:

Spielberg, cause he's more diverse.Jaws, close encounters, E.T, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Jurrasic Park are as far removed from Schindler's List,Amistad and the Colour Purple as you can get.

He earned his big budgets by consistantly making films that appealed to the public.He started off small, see 'Duel'.

Spike's films seem to stay within what he knows and is comfortable with.He's more introspective.I don't think Spike would know what to do with a big budget to be honest.'Do the Right Thing' is a classic, i can take or leave the rest of what i've seen of his.



damn ...

this is fighting talk, where i come from

Hollywood to scared to give spike a big budget

just in case he creates some shit that people may learn something from ...

aint ya seen malcolm X .. now thats what spike can do




the reason spielberg gets those big budgets is because his movies aint saying nothing about nothing ..

spielberg doesn't scare the powers that be
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Reply #9 posted 11/25/02 5:10am

AprilMichelle

It is two entirely different types of movies...Speilberg is the vanilla ice cream of moviemakers...bland and appealing to the masses, the type of movie where you can shut your brain off. Spike is more challanging, making the movies that provoke thought and discussion, that forces people out of complacent ideas of how certain aspects of the world work. Personally, I prefer Spike.
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Reply #10 posted 11/25/02 5:23am

Thecherryloon

AprilMichelle said:

It is two entirely different types of movies...Speilberg is the vanilla ice cream of moviemakers...bland and appealing to the masses, the type of movie where you can shut your brain off. Spike is more challanging, making the movies that provoke thought and discussion, that forces people out of complacent ideas of how certain aspects of the world work. Personally, I prefer Spike.


did you shut your brain off at 'Schindlers list' or the 'Colour Purple'? eek

A fairer comparison that would make more sense would be Lee Vs Tarantino IMO.
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Reply #11 posted 11/25/02 5:23am

DavidEye

AprilMichelle said:

It is two entirely different types of movies...Speilberg is the vanilla ice cream of moviemakers...bland and appealing to the masses, the type of movie where you can shut your brain off. Spike is more challanging, making the movies that provoke thought and discussion, that forces people out of complacent ideas of how certain aspects of the world work. Personally, I prefer Spike.



Amen! Your post sums it up completely.Spielberg is like the "Disneyland" of movie directors,while Spike is like the smaller,independent artist with radical ideas.They're both great in their own way.
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Reply #12 posted 11/25/02 6:37am

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Could U C Steven Spielberg directing "Do The Right Thing"?

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Reply #13 posted 11/25/02 11:16am

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DreZone said:

Could U C Steven Spielberg directing "Do The Right Thing"?

'dre

people think spielberg is great because of the money thats all
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Reply #14 posted 11/25/02 11:33am

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Hollywood to scared to give spike a big budget


studios aren't in the business to lose money...
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Reply #15 posted 11/25/02 11:35am

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DreZone said:

Could U C Steven Spielberg directing "Do The Right Thing"?

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Spike pulled a Spielberg by adding that "sweet" ending between Mookie and Sal etc... I mean come on...
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Reply #16 posted 11/25/02 11:54am

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Spielberg. Spielberg knows what he does and does it damn well. And if there's a message in there somewhere, that's just a little icing on the cake.

Lee tries to say big things with his movies and they end up coming out really sloppy.
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Reply #17 posted 11/25/02 12:42pm

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thechronic said:

Who is the better movie director of the two?

I say Spike Lee because he doesn't rely on all the special effects to make his movies good!

He just doesn't get mentioned in the same league with him because he is short and black.

What do you think!

Only college graduates please respond since if you didn't go to college u probably a dumb fuck and your opinion doesn't matter anywaY!lol


Spielberg is a rcognised master. Spike Lee is a director.
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Reply #18 posted 11/25/02 12:54pm

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They both suck ass.
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Reply #19 posted 11/25/02 12:59pm

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They are both amazing directors, no doubt about that. Do the right thing is one of my favourite movies and Speilberg has made many favourites too, but they are quite different from one another and make very different movies. I knew thechronic would pick Spike. After he's black and so is Spike. Chronic is so predictable and if he did actually graduate from Michigan State like he loves to tell everyone, maybe they should re-check his grades.
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Reply #20 posted 11/25/02 1:03pm

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I am not a fan of either of them, but both are capable of doing good work...

"Schindler's List" was an excellent film and I wish that Spielberg would release the fucking thing on DVD already... I have a very cool special edition laserdisc, but I want it on DVD, damn it!!!

"Malcolm X" was very well done by Spike Lee...

I think that most of Spielberg's stuff is cheesy, commercialized crap and most of Lee's stuff is cheesy, would-be films that miss the mark at most times.

If making an ass-load of money makes you a great director, Spielberg has this one by a HUGE margin.

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Reply #21 posted 11/25/02 1:14pm

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Reply #22 posted 11/25/02 1:28pm

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no one of them, John Carpenter is the best and I think that Spielberg is an over rated director and he's (with G Lucas) responsible for the childishisation of the mainstream taste
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Reply #23 posted 11/25/02 2:37pm

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2the9s said:

They both suck ass.


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Reply #24 posted 11/25/02 2:38pm

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twonabomber said:

stepinrazor said:

Hollywood to scared to give spike a big budget


studios aren't in the business to lose money...



and .. your point being ...
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Reply #25 posted 11/25/02 2:50pm

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stepinrazor said:

twonabomber said:

stepinrazor said:

Hollywood to scared to give spike a big budget


studios aren't in the business to lose money...



and .. your point being ...


no one goes to Spike Lee movies, therefore the studio would lose money...it's simple math...
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Reply #26 posted 11/25/02 4:37pm

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rdhull said:

DreZone said:

Could U C Steven Spielberg directing "Do The Right Thing"?

'dre


Spike pulled a Spielberg by adding that "sweet" ending between Mookie and Sal etc... I mean come on...


That don't count!!!

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Reply #27 posted 11/25/02 5:14pm

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I guess Spike is opening up a bit, he has a new movie coming out and it it has WHITE people in it. Oh my lawd!, what will people think now?!!! Don't worry, its only a few, Ed Norton is one.
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Reply #28 posted 11/25/02 5:22pm

DORA

jaws was awsome...


do the right thing was ok



besides that...???
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Reply #29 posted 11/25/02 5:23pm

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Just in case, here's the link.

http://www.apple.com/trai...25th_hour/

it looks really good, and commercial. Norton is one of the best around IMO
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