JasmineFire said:

for me the personality change and change in thinking would have far more impact than the physical

ZombieKitten said:

their core personality wouldn't really change so much, i wouldn't think.

their behaviors might...that would be tough, too.

but honestly, i'm just not sexualy attracted to women. our mental connection would exist but the sexual connection would be gone.

EmeraldSkies said:

Me and Kate plus 8 is a guilty pleasure of mine.

LoyalAndTrue said:

gender is a social construct.

JasmineFire said:

transgenderism is a touchy subject. i personally experience a mild form of it when i've had guys discover that i do drag and are no longer interested in me. even though i do more of a gender fuck drag than female impersonation drag

ehuffnsd said:

I am really impressed with how Kate is able to take care off all those kids all by herself most of the day,and keep them all in line,and still stay sane.

ehuffnsd said:

see, but you don't live in drag so what's their deal?

ZombieKitten said:

their core personality wouldn't really change so much, i wouldn't think.

their behaviors might...that would be tough, too.

but honestly, i'm just not sexualy attracted to women. our mental connection would exist but the sexual connection would be gone.

ehuffnsd said:

Then why change that construct?
I can understand if someone feels the need to a male/female body, but if someone changes his/hers sex just cause he/she dosent feel "manly", "girly" is sad.

Gimmesomehorns said:

it's a lot deeper than just not feeling manly or girly it's feeling like you are totally the wrong person.

i can't explain because i've never been there.

ehuffnsd said:

Well, i actually did a transgender-test for fun and the result was androgyn= both male/female or neither and i can relate to that.

Gimmesomehorns said:

like an online quiz or the actual psychological assessment test?



on an unrelated note...who was the orger who would post a million online quizzes a day? Was that JustinUK or someone with a name like that?

JasmineFire said:

It was actually a serious test, from a site about transgenderism.
I did it cause i dont fit in the gender-role of a man all the time, but ive allways been happy with my body though.

Gimmesomehorns said:

you're probably somewhere on the transgender spectrum but not a transexual

I'm a little creeped out by their need for publicity. But other than that, I say good for them as long as all the hormones that are raging through his body don't harm the fetus.

Can I disagree with this bizarre situation and not be labeled a bigot? I feel this is just horribly selfish and hurtful thing for the child already born last year and the one to come, how can it be explained to them that their biological mother is also their father? The fact that he/she is making it a public spectacle will surely burden these children as they grow up, hopefully there will be money put aside for counseling.

I don't care about the adults so much as the children, he/she IS still technically, biologically a woman if she is giving birth. When a coroner examines the skeleton after death, they will know she gave birth, therefore she was and is a woman. All the hormone therapy and body transformation does not change her DNA, she is woman. The fact that he/she is staying half man/half woman and letting the world know about her pregnancy is just callous. I've seen enough transgender people living in San Francisco to not be shocked or surprised by them. Nor do I wish them harm or would I ever bother them or comment on their lifestyle, I'm not qualified to understand their psychosis. As it pertains to this particular situation, I feel as I do, I don't like it. All the love in the world isn't going to prevent the cruel comments and intrusions upon those children.

Congrats to the happy couple.

As I understand it, he's the one carrying the babies because his wife isn't capable for some reason. Is that correct?

JasmineFire said:

the clown car family!
but unless that child mentions they are one of those kids, people probably won't recognise them, and media attention or not, they are bound to be local celebrities

Well that was interesting. Anyone else watch?

Imagine if a transgendered woman with the "thing-down-there" unchanged hooked up with a transgendered man counterpart and had a family.

Gimmesomehorns said:

I wouldn't be surprised if it's already happened and the public just hasn't heard about it.

Gimmesomehorns said:

I wouldn't be surprised if it's already happened and the public just hasn't heard about it.

My only issue is that they sure ran to the media as fast as they could on this 2nd baby. I smell famewhores, & THAT is bad for the children