NDRU said:

You watch the Wiggles?

hokie said:

Just for the sex scenes

Kids will try to smoke to see what it is like. They generally will start due to peer pressure.

NDRU said:

it's an highly influential act to see and actor or actress smoking in films at least it was for me as a youngster

RodeoSchro said:

what does this have to do with retconning a movie about groucho marx so he's walks around wiggling a candy cane in his fingers?

my issue isn't with whether actors actually SMOKE in movies. use candy cigarettes. CGI the shit. it doesn't matter to me, it's acting.

but if the story calls for a character to be smoking and it is relevant, then for the love of bette davis an actor should be able to portray that.

i don't think old bugs bunny cartoons are suddenly offensive to children because a rabbit pretends to be smoking his carrot. if you think that's going to send a child racing toward a pack of lucky strikes, well...god bless you i guess.

luv4u said:

i didn't start smoking until i was 23. it was how i dealt with the stress of my final semester in college.

maybe we should make education illegal!

Anxiety said:

or quit smoking once you get your degree!

PEJ said:

but the smoking trained me to deal with on-the-job stress!

Anxiety said:

Anxiety said:

trained you to deal with it or trained you to channel it into a different problem?

NDRU said:

i channel EVERYTHING into a different problem. i don't need to spend $5 on a pack of smokes to do that, sheesh.

Movies aren't really meant to show people acting right.

Should the Goonies have run off to find the treasure? Should Elliot really have kept an alien in his closet? Should the Kid have had sexual relations with that whore Appolonia?

Anxiety said:

I guess that's why we're all here!

NDRU said:

and i think lisa chain-smoked through every scene she was in.

Anxiety said:

Is that why it was rated "R"?

sextonseven said:

it was rated "R" for the boobage, most likely.

sextonseven said:

there was one scene she didnt that was right after Prince Apples re watch that scene again

sure the hell wasnt the reason for it

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Anxiety said:

Seeing it in the theater when I was 15, I was more scarred by the smoking than the boobage.

So my position on the subject now is smoking = R rating; boobies = G rating.

Smoking is always blurred or pixelated on cable here in Thailand. They're fine holding the cigarette or cigar, but once it's lit and put to someone's lips it's gone. Same goes for drug use and guns pointed at someone's head. And yet, movies are put on at all times of day, regardless of rating, so it's possible to see a guy smoking a cigarette all blurred out, before saying 'fucking cunt', at 9am in the morning. I believe there's a youtube video that shows just this, but since I can't find it, here's American Dad:



So stupid.

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Anxiety said:

On the nite of my grad my friends and I drove out to a farm to party. I saw a 6 year old girl (I asked her how old she was) smoking a cigarette, I shit you not. I was like you'll destroy your lungs!

Anxiety said:

In what way could smoking a cigarette be relevant to ANYTHING?

no, not as long as kids can see smokers everywhere else

RodeoSchro said:

well, i stated one example in my previous post. if you're doing a film biography of someone like groucho marx, there is no way you can make the film without him walking around holding a cigar.

same with george burns.

same with a lot of celebrities of yesteryear. do we just magically re-image them as non-smokers, even if their smoking was part of their persona or trademark?

and should we change the lyrics of frosty the snowman to take away his "corncob pipe"?

i just think this kind of revisionism is depressing and unnecessary 99.9% of the time.

Anxiety said:

Try watching the TV show Mad Men without the smoking. It totally wouldn't work.

ya know what? personally, i'd be much more supportive of a rule that said guns can be depicted in R rated movies only.

Anxiety said:

oh, hell yeah!

No! that would be super nazi and stuff

No.....

NDRU said: