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Reply #90 posted 11/07/08 11:09am

abierman

this thread ota lost focus.....sigh
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Reply #91 posted 11/07/08 11:11am

Imago

abierman said:

this thread ota lost focus.....sigh

ota?

Isn't that what Theo, Protoge, InsasiableCream, Byron and the rest of the kids are saying? confuse

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Reply #92 posted 11/07/08 11:12am

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Imago said:

abierman said:

this thread ota lost focus.....sigh

ota?

Isn't that what Theo, Protoge, InsasiableCream, Byron and the rest of the kids are saying? confuse

If you start poppin' your shirt collars no no no!

lol lol


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Reply #93 posted 11/07/08 11:31am

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Vader never directly encounters the droids, and once Luke is revealed to him, the question becomes moot. He knows the score.

I think what you're bemoaning is the lack of the "let me announce the obvious in a speech" revelations so common in movies for the weak minded.


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Reply #94 posted 11/07/08 11:34am

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Imago said:

abierman said:

this thread ota lost focus.....sigh

ota?

Isn't that what Theo, Protoge, InsasiableCream, Byron and the rest of the kids are saying? confuse

If you start poppin' your shirt collars no no no!




sigh

I thought you'd like it.....
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Reply #95 posted 11/07/08 11:36am

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I've always been content to just be all like, "that movie is stupid" (sorry Chris'n'Darin), but now I have a reason to be all like, "that movie is stupid because it makes no SENSE", which I appreciate. kthx.
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Reply #96 posted 11/07/08 11:41am

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lazycrockett said:

R2 and 3PO units are all over the place in the old republic so its possible that Anakin wouldn't recognize one or 2 droids. Also in the original trilogy Darth doesn't come into contact with artoo-detoo or see-threepio.

The Tantoinee thing I have no idea, besides making padme look still pregnant when they buried her, I have no idea why if the twins were so powerful with the force that emperor didn't get the force email.

I also never understood why Tat played so much importance in the 2nd trilogy when its such a backwater world in the outer rim.

Vader does come into contact with Threepio on Bespin. The comics expand on the backstory here:



I would guess that since Luke & Leia were never trained at all, their Force presence was never revealed until they started utilizing the Force themselves. Leia communicated with Jacen and Jaina while they were still in the womb, so they were already on their way to having that Force presence. Not so with their mother and uncle.

As for Tatooine, yeah...just too painful of a place for Vader to go to with all the memories there. Kenobi knew this and therefore made that planet his hideaway with Luke. This is why it became important in the second trilogy as well as being the planet of choice for Jabba. What better place to run a criminal organization than some backwater world in the outer rim, or as one stormtrooper in the short film "Troops" described it, "the ass-end of space."? lol
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Reply #97 posted 11/07/08 11:44am

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Mars23 said:

Vader never directly encounters the droids, and once Luke is revealed to him, the question becomes moot. He knows the score.

I think what you're bemoaning is the lack of the "let me announce the obvious in a speech" revelations so common in movies for the weak minded.


Now back to the ass waxing discussions.


I will say this, if lucas had yoda say on Dagobah when he was talking to Obi-Wan something like "Watched him I have, dark side protected him i have, still a jedi he must not be." would have made everything moot.

and that's my problem with Lucas, he shouldn't be allowed to write screenplays. Cause according to the myth, Georgie knew all of this before he put pen to paper, yeah right.
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Reply #98 posted 11/07/08 11:45am

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TMPletz said:

lazycrockett said:

R2 and 3PO units are all over the place in the old republic so its possible that Anakin wouldn't recognize one or 2 droids. Also in the original trilogy Darth doesn't come into contact with artoo-detoo or see-threepio.

The Tantoinee thing I have no idea, besides making padme look still pregnant when they buried her, I have no idea why if the twins were so powerful with the force that emperor didn't get the force email.

I also never understood why Tat played so much importance in the 2nd trilogy when its such a backwater world in the outer rim.

Vader does come into contact with Threepio on Bespin. The comics expand on the backstory here:



I would guess that since Luke & Leia were never trained at all, their Force presence was never revealed until they started utilizing the Force themselves. Leia communicated with Jacen and Jaina while they were still in the womb, so they were already on their way to having that Force presence. Not so with their mother and uncle.

As for Tatooine, yeah...just too painful of a place for Vader to go to with all the memories there. Kenobi knew this and therefore made that planet his hideaway with Luke. This is why it became important in the second trilogy as well as being the planet of choice for Jabba. What better place to run a criminal organization than some backwater world in the outer rim, or as one stormtrooper in the short film "Troops" described it, "the ass-end of space."? lol


Sorry, if it isn't in the movie its not fact. and I don't care if its a lucas approved comic.
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Reply #99 posted 11/07/08 11:49am

Imago

tackam said:

I've always been content to just be all like, "that movie is stupid" (sorry Chris'n'Darin), but now I have a reason to be all like, "that movie is stupid because it makes no SENSE", which I appreciate. kthx.

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Reply #100 posted 11/07/08 12:00pm

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lazycrockett said:

.... I have no idea why if the twins were so powerful with the force that emperor didn't get the force email.




"force email"


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Reply #101 posted 11/07/08 12:05pm

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Somebody explain this shit to me.



Darth Vader owns R2D2 for a good part of his life.
He also BUILT C3PO when he was like 8 years old.

AAAAANNNNNDDDDD, he buried his mother at Uncle Owen's crib.



How the fuck:
1) did he not EVER once go back there , and stumble upon his children?
2) not remember the droids in Episode 4?




Sorry, this is disturbing my ass this morning.



and they tell me I think too much hmm




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Reply #102 posted 11/07/08 12:05pm

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lazycrockett said:

Mars23 said:

Vader never directly encounters the droids, and once Luke is revealed to him, the question becomes moot. He knows the score.

I think what you're bemoaning is the lack of the "let me announce the obvious in a speech" revelations so common in movies for the weak minded.


Now back to the ass waxing discussions.


I will say this, if lucas had yoda say on Dagobah when he was talking to Obi-Wan something like "Watched him I have, dark side protected him i have, still a jedi he must not be." would have made everything moot.

and that's my problem with Lucas, he shouldn't be allowed to write screenplays. Cause according to the myth, Georgie knew all of this before he put pen to paper, yeah right.


Lucas had tons of outlines and script drafts with all variations of gender and character relationships. But he NEVER EVER had a story bible he went by. That is myth. Myth to boost his image and put faith in the series and it's many many offshoots by other authors and artists.
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Reply #103 posted 11/07/08 12:19pm

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Maybe there are alot of droids that are the same make & model (like cars)
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Reply #104 posted 11/07/08 12:23pm

Imago

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Maybe there are alot of droids that are the same make & model (like cars)

Are we talking about Hayden Christianson now? lol





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Reply #105 posted 11/07/08 12:25pm

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kpowers said:

Maybe there are alot of droids that are the same make & model (like cars)


Doesn't anyone read my post????



confused
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Reply #106 posted 11/07/08 1:00pm

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You're wrong...it's Chewbacca that makes no sense!

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Reply #107 posted 11/07/08 1:04pm

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superspaceboy said:


You're wrong...it's Chewbacca that makes no sense!



actually there is a board somewhere that states that Chewbacca is the backbone of the rebellion and the main mover behind the scenes.

ill edit it in.

http://www.morningstar.ni..._Sith.html

Although the Death Star plans need to get to Yavin as soon as possible, Obi-Wan needs to make one more diversion first. If the Empire knows that Leia is a Rebel leader, then they also know about her father and the whole Organa family may need immediate evacuation. Fortunately, before coming to Tattoine, R2 had already arranged transport, which is waiting at Mos Eisley, under the command of the Rebellion's other chief field agent and espionage asset. Chewbacca.

20 years earlier, Chewbacca was second in command of the defence of his planet. He's there in the tactical conferences and there on the front lines and is a personal friend of Yoda's. When he needed reliable people to join the embryonic Alliance, who else would Yoda turn to but his old friend from Kashykk? Given his background, there is no way that Chewie would spend the crucial years of the rebellion as the second-in-command to (sorry Han) a low-level smuggler. Unless it's his cover. In fact, Chewie is a top-line spy and flies what is in many ways the Rebellion's best ship.

The Millenium Falcon may look like a beat-up old freighter but it can outrun any Imperial ship in normal space or hyperspace, hang in a firefight with a Star Destroyer or outmaneouvre a dozen top-of-the-line TIE fighters. It's a remarkable feat of engineering and must have cost a colossal fortune to build. How does Han come to own a ship like that? He only thinks he does, actually it's Chewie's. Half-way through RotS, we see the Falcon landing at the Senate building on Coruscant. If it's the same ship (which of course it is) then it was the personal transport of one of the senatorial delegations - a much more likely source to commission its design. That delegatino must have later joined the Rebellion and given it the use of the Falcon. In fact, if the delegation is the one from Kashykk, then the ship may have belonged to Chewbacca as early as RotS.

Han is Chewie's front man. It's much better, and safer for him, if he doesn't know what's really going on. Chewie used to work with Lando Calrissian in a similar way but Lando wanted to settle down, so Chewie arranged for him to lose the Falcon in a card game to Han Solo, an even better choice as partner. Han and Chewie's working method is pretty much what we see in the cantina scene: Chewie make the contacts and sets up the deals, then turns them over to Han who haggles over the price and gives the final yea or nay. This lets Chewie wander the seamy underside of the galaxy pretty much at will, making contacts, gathering and passing information with no-one was the wiser, especially not Han.

just a piece of the op.
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Reply #108 posted 11/07/08 1:10pm

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lazycrockett said:

kpowers said:

Maybe there are alot of droids that are the same make & model (like cars)


Doesn't anyone read my post????



confused
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Responding to Imago question since this is his thread, Sorry I'm not going to read 103 response b-4 I put mine up.
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Reply #109 posted 11/07/08 1:18pm

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lazycrockett said:

Sorry, if it isn't in the movie its not fact. and I don't care if its a lucas approved comic.
[Edited 11/7/08 11:46am]

Incorrect. I'm not sure about the items in comics, though, because some can be a bit iffy especially the early Marvel Comics stories, but everything in book form (the so-called "Expanded Universe") has been deemed as canon by Lucasfilm and George himself. The writers have strict rules to adhere to and are guided by people from Lucasfilm that make everything work cohesively in the Star Wars universe. Actually, the books have done a great job of explaining discrepancies such as these.
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Reply #110 posted 11/07/08 1:22pm

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lazycrockett said:

superspaceboy said:


You're wrong...it's Chewbacca that makes no sense!



actually there is a board somewhere that states that Chewbacca is the backbone of the rebellion and the main mover behind the scenes.

ill edit it in.

http://www.morningstar.ni..._Sith.html

Although the Death Star plans need to get to Yavin as soon as possible, Obi-Wan needs to make one more diversion first. If the Empire knows that Leia is a Rebel leader, then they also know about her father and the whole Organa family may need immediate evacuation. Fortunately, before coming to Tattoine, R2 had already arranged transport, which is waiting at Mos Eisley, under the command of the Rebellion's other chief field agent and espionage asset. Chewbacca.

20 years earlier, Chewbacca was second in command of the defence of his planet. He's there in the tactical conferences and there on the front lines and is a personal friend of Yoda's. When he needed reliable people to join the embryonic Alliance, who else would Yoda turn to but his old friend from Kashykk? Given his background, there is no way that Chewie would spend the crucial years of the rebellion as the second-in-command to (sorry Han) a low-level smuggler. Unless it's his cover. In fact, Chewie is a top-line spy and flies what is in many ways the Rebellion's best ship.

The Millenium Falcon may look like a beat-up old freighter but it can outrun any Imperial ship in normal space or hyperspace, hang in a firefight with a Star Destroyer or outmaneouvre a dozen top-of-the-line TIE fighters. It's a remarkable feat of engineering and must have cost a colossal fortune to build. How does Han come to own a ship like that? He only thinks he does, actually it's Chewie's. Half-way through RotS, we see the Falcon landing at the Senate building on Coruscant. If it's the same ship (which of course it is) then it was the personal transport of one of the senatorial delegations - a much more likely source to commission its design. That delegatino must have later joined the Rebellion and given it the use of the Falcon. In fact, if the delegation is the one from Kashykk, then the ship may have belonged to Chewbacca as early as RotS.

Han is Chewie's front man. It's much better, and safer for him, if he doesn't know what's really going on. Chewie used to work with Lando Calrissian in a similar way but Lando wanted to settle down, so Chewie arranged for him to lose the Falcon in a card game to Han Solo, an even better choice as partner. Han and Chewie's working method is pretty much what we see in the cantina scene: Chewie make the contacts and sets up the deals, then turns them over to Han who haggles over the price and gives the final yea or nay. This lets Chewie wander the seamy underside of the galaxy pretty much at will, making contacts, gathering and passing information with no-one was the wiser, especially not Han.

just a piece of the op.
[Edited 11/7/08 13:07pm]

This is interesting.
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Reply #111 posted 11/07/08 2:35pm

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superspaceboy said:


You're wrong...it's Chewbacca that makes no sense!


omgz, I make that reference all the time and NOBODY gets it! That just doesn't make any sense!

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Reply #112 posted 11/07/08 3:28pm

abierman

I'm so lost..... confuse

I feel like I'm robbed.... sad


Fuck you, Dan! mad
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Reply #113 posted 11/07/08 5:33pm

sweet

Imago said:

abierman said:

this thread ota lost focus.....sigh

ota?

Isn't that what Theo, Protoge, InsasiableCream, Byron and the rest of the kids are saying? confuse

If you start poppin' your shirt collars no no no!


lol u lumped byron in with the rest o' the kids? he should love that bananadance
due to the content i suggest you like this...
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Reply #114 posted 11/07/08 5:34pm

sweet

oh yeah and if byron's a kid...imma newborn boxed

sorry B...ur still very handsome
due to the content i suggest you like this...
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Reply #115 posted 11/08/08 3:51am

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MidasTouch said:

uPtoWnNY said:



According to "The Rise of Darth Vader", Vader avoided Tattooine, for fear of reawakening Anakin and bringing back all those painful memories.

If you get a chance, check out that novel - it's very good.


I am going to read that book immediately!
or as soon as I buy it.
well done that man.


I've read it. redface

It's written by James Luceno and is called Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader. I thought it was only so-so. biggrin
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Reply #116 posted 11/08/08 4:02am

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Imago said:

How the fuck:
1) did he not EVER once go back there , and stumble upon his children?


Well, he had no reason to go back there. As far as he knew, there was nothing for him there. He didn't know about the children. biggrin
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Reply #117 posted 11/08/08 7:43am

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shocked

hah!
Now I killed the thread. :redface
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Reply #118 posted 11/08/08 10:39am

Imago

scififilmnerd said:

Imago said:

How the fuck:
1) did he not EVER once go back there , and stumble upon his children?


Well, he had no reason to go back there. As far as he knew, there was nothing for him there. He didn't know about the children. biggrin

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Reply #119 posted 11/08/08 6:52pm

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lazycrockett said:

superspaceboy said:


You're wrong...it's Chewbacca that makes no sense!



actually there is a board somewhere that states that Chewbacca is the backbone of the rebellion and the main mover behind the scenes.

ill edit it in.

http://www.morningstar.ni..._Sith.html

Although the Death Star plans need to get to Yavin as soon as possible, Obi-Wan needs to make one more diversion first. If the Empire knows that Leia is a Rebel leader, then they also know about her father and the whole Organa family may need immediate evacuation. Fortunately, before coming to Tattoine, R2 had already arranged transport, which is waiting at Mos Eisley, under the command of the Rebellion's other chief field agent and espionage asset. Chewbacca.

20 years earlier, Chewbacca was second in command of the defence of his planet. He's there in the tactical conferences and there on the front lines and is a personal friend of Yoda's. When he needed reliable people to join the embryonic Alliance, who else would Yoda turn to but his old friend from Kashykk? Given his background, there is no way that Chewie would spend the crucial years of the rebellion as the second-in-command to (sorry Han) a low-level smuggler. Unless it's his cover. In fact, Chewie is a top-line spy and flies what is in many ways the Rebellion's best ship.

The Millenium Falcon may look like a beat-up old freighter but it can outrun any Imperial ship in normal space or hyperspace, hang in a firefight with a Star Destroyer or outmaneouvre a dozen top-of-the-line TIE fighters. It's a remarkable feat of engineering and must have cost a colossal fortune to build. How does Han come to own a ship like that? He only thinks he does, actually it's Chewie's. Half-way through RotS, we see the Falcon landing at the Senate building on Coruscant. If it's the same ship (which of course it is) then it was the personal transport of one of the senatorial delegations - a much more likely source to commission its design. That delegatino must have later joined the Rebellion and given it the use of the Falcon. In fact, if the delegation is the one from Kashykk, then the ship may have belonged to Chewbacca as early as RotS.

Han is Chewie's front man. It's much better, and safer for him, if he doesn't know what's really going on. Chewie used to work with Lando Calrissian in a similar way but Lando wanted to settle down, so Chewie arranged for him to lose the Falcon in a card game to Han Solo, an even better choice as partner. Han and Chewie's working method is pretty much what we see in the cantina scene: Chewie make the contacts and sets up the deals, then turns them over to Han who haggles over the price and gives the final yea or nay. This lets Chewie wander the seamy underside of the galaxy pretty much at will, making contacts, gathering and passing information with no-one was the wiser, especially not Han.

just a piece of the op.
[Edited 11/7/08 13:07pm]



eek WOW!!! That's really interesting!
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