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Vick to plead guilty on state dogfighting charges

SURRY, VIRGINIA (TICKER) —Former NFL star Michael Vick plans to plead guilty to state dogfighting charges in Virginia, according to paperwork filed Tuesday in Surry County Circuit Court.

A circuit court administrator said Vick will plead guilty via a video-conference call from federal prison in Leavenworth, Kansas, where he currently is serving a two-year sentence for dogfighting.

According to the Virginian-Pilot of Norfolk, Vick will plead guilty to the state charges in an attempt to receive an early release from his federal sentence and enter a halfway house.

Vick, 28, pleaded guilty in August 2007 to a federal dogfighting charge, admitting that he bankrolled the operation known as “Bad Newz Kennels” which was based on his property in rural Virginia.

Court papers revealed disturbing details of the operation, including the execution of underperforming dogs by electrocution, drowning, hanging and other means.

Vick was sentenced on December 10, 2007 to spend 23 months in jail. With good behavior, the former Atlanta Falcons quarterback could have his sentence reduced to 18 months, which would result in a release from prison in the summer of 2009.
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Reply #1 posted 10/21/08 4:19pm

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The charge is uch too light, if you ask me, but at least he's pleading guilty. There's no way a believable "innocent" could be pled, and it would just be a waste of court time if he did.
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Reply #2 posted 10/21/08 4:20pm

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Reply #3 posted 10/21/08 4:30pm

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Lots of teams need quarterbacks. Who will take the public relations hit and sign this guy?
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Reply #4 posted 10/21/08 8:58pm

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What's bullshit?
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Reply #5 posted 10/21/08 9:04pm

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People shoot animals in the head for fun but they don't go to jail for it. go figure.
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Reply #6 posted 10/21/08 11:12pm

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SCNDLS said:

bboy87 said:


What's bullshit?

The fact that dude is taking the wrap for other people. This "No Snitching" shit is out of control
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Reply #7 posted 10/21/08 11:19pm

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Stymie said:

People shoot animals in the head for fun but they don't go to jail for it. go figure.


Exactly. If people are pissed off at Vick for killing dogs then they damn sure better be pissed off for "Game Hunting". If dog fighthing was a rich man's sport, his ass would be preparing for the Falcons week 8 game against the Eagles.
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Reply #8 posted 10/21/08 11:26pm

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carmand said:

Lots of teams need quarterbacks. Who will take the public relations hit and sign this guy?


The Fuckin' RAIDERS !!!!


who else...


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Reply #9 posted 10/21/08 11:56pm

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RenHoek said:

carmand said:

Lots of teams need quarterbacks. Who will take the public relations hit and sign this guy?


The Fuckin' RAIDERS !!!!


who else...


GO RAIDERS EVEN THO' AL DAVIS IS A PUNK BITCH!!!lurking



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I live in the Bay Area and Raider fans will fight you for that lol
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bboy87 said:

RenHoek said:



The Fuckin' RAIDERS !!!!


who else...


GO RAIDERS EVEN THO' AL DAVIS IS A PUNK BITCH!!!lurking



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I live in the Bay Area and Raider fans will fight you for that lol


me too and I meant it!!
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Reply #11 posted 10/22/08 12:02am

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RenHoek said:

bboy87 said:


I live in the Bay Area and Raider fans will fight you for that lol


me too and I meant it!!
razz

When I was in high school, all somebody had to do was shout "Niners!" or "Raiders" and it was on, even the teacher got into the debates lol

I've been a sports fan so that shit was wild to me lol
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bboy87 said:

RenHoek said:



me too and I meant it!!
razz

When I was in high school, all somebody had to do was shout "Niners!" or "Raiders" and it was on, even the teacher got into the debates lol

I've been a sports fan so that shit was wild to me lol


I feel you... I'm just a klingon lol I root for whoever's winning in the Bay which right now means I'm, like, watchin' golf or some shit... falloff
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Reply #13 posted 10/22/08 11:38am

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MuthaFunka said:

Stymie said:

People shoot animals in the head for fun but they don't go to jail for it. go figure.


Exactly. If people are pissed off at Vick for killing dogs then they damn sure better be pissed off for "Game Hunting". If dog fighthing was a rich man's sport, his ass would be preparing for the Falcons week 8 game against the Eagles.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm pissed off about that too. Cruelty is cruelty, and I don't see this as Vick "taking the rap" for anyone else. This sick "sport" was being held on his grounds, with his knowledge. How anyone can even begin to defend that is beyond my comprehension.
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Reply #14 posted 10/22/08 11:43am

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bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:


What's bullshit?

The fact that dude is taking the wrap for other people. This "No Snitching" shit is out of control

People snitching don't change the fact that this fool, despite being a millionaire, bank rolled a brutal and illegal enterprise, not to mention killing animals with his bare hands. As for the comparison to game hunting I don't see the correlation at all. You don't raise, house, feed, and pay for medical attention for animals roaming free, then train them to tear each other apart. There's a big damn difference.
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Reply #15 posted 10/22/08 11:51am

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SCNDLS said:

bboy87 said:


The fact that dude is taking the wrap for other people. This "No Snitching" shit is out of control

People snitching don't change the fact that this fool, despite being a millionaire, bank rolled a brutal and illegal enterprise, not to mention killing animals with his bare hands. As for the comparison to game hunting I don't see the correlation at all. You don't raise, house, feed, and pay for medical attention for animals roaming free, then train them to tear each other apart. There's a big damn difference.


exactly, and maybe the biggest difference is that it's illegal. If he shot deer, he wouldn't be in jail.

I don't think weed should be illegal, but if I get caught selling a pound of it I'm going to jail. I knew the risk, right?

Mike, you're a millionaire superstar, why risk it all to watch a dog die?
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Reply #16 posted 10/22/08 12:08pm

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RenHoek said:

bboy87 said:


When I was in high school, all somebody had to do was shout "Niners!" or "Raiders" and it was on, even the teacher got into the debates lol

I've been a sports fan so that shit was wild to me lol


I feel you... I'm just a klingon lol I root for whoever's winning in the Bay which right now means I'm, like, watchin' golf or some shit... falloff


lol

At least we have the Sharks.

Sports in the Bay Area is pretty depressing right now. The A's look promising in the near future with their now excellent farm system and the Sharks might just finally make it to the Stanley cup this season.

But the Niners and Raiders are just spinning their wheels, and I am absolutely convinced that the Warriors are a cursed team and the Giants might or might not be a good team in the very weak NL West.
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Reply #17 posted 10/22/08 12:55pm

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SCNDLS said:

bboy87 said:


The fact that dude is taking the wrap for other people. This "No Snitching" shit is out of control

People snitching don't change the fact that this fool, despite being a millionaire, bank rolled a brutal and illegal enterprise, not to mention killing animals with his bare hands. As for the comparison to game hunting I don't see the correlation at all. You don't raise, house, feed, and pay for medical attention for animals roaming free, then train them to tear each other apart. There's a big damn difference.


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Reply #18 posted 10/22/08 1:03pm

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bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:


What's bullshit?

The fact that dude is taking the wrap for other people. This "No Snitching" shit is out of control

Oh, so do you think he shoulda rolled on his cousins an' nem??? Well, they rolled on him so who else is left for him to snitch on? lol
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SCNDLS said:

bboy87 said:


The fact that dude is taking the wrap for other people. This "No Snitching" shit is out of control

Oh, so do you think he shoulda rolled on his cousins an' nem??? Well, they rolled on him so who else is left for him to snitch on? lol

He's a dumbass, no doubt about it lol

But the fact that he was the only one who got in trouble.....they all should've gotten punished
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Reply #20 posted 10/22/08 3:48pm

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SCNDLS said:

bboy87 said:


The fact that dude is taking the wrap for other people. This "No Snitching" shit is out of control

People snitching don't change the fact that this fool, despite being a millionaire, bank rolled a brutal and illegal enterprise, not to mention killing animals with his bare hands. As for the comparison to game hunting I don't see the correlation at all. You don't raise, house, feed, and pay for medical attention for animals roaming free, then train them to tear each other apart. There's a big damn difference.
yeah, it's real fucked up what he did but we do raise animals only to electrocute them to death so we can have steak. Or we cut their heads off so we have get fried chicken or we shoot them so we can mount their heads to the wall. Vick is fucked up and even though it's not on the same level, it's still animals suffering.
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Stymie said:

SCNDLS said:


People snitching don't change the fact that this fool, despite being a millionaire, bank rolled a brutal and illegal enterprise, not to mention killing animals with his bare hands. As for the comparison to game hunting I don't see the correlation at all. You don't raise, house, feed, and pay for medical attention for animals roaming free, then train them to tear each other apart. There's a big damn difference.
yeah, it's real fucked up what he did but we do raise animals only to electrocute them to death so we can have steak. Or we cut their heads off so we have get fried chicken or we shoot them so we can mount their heads to the wall. Vick is fucked up and even though it's not on the same level, it's still animals suffering.

and every black person thanks them lol
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Reply #22 posted 10/22/08 3:59pm

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Stymie said:

yeah, it's real fucked up what he did but we do raise animals only to electrocute them to death so we can have steak. Or we cut their heads off so we have get fried chicken or we shoot them so we can mount their heads to the wall. Vick is fucked up and even though it's not on the same level, it's still animals suffering.

and every black person thanks them lol
You ain't right. lol

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bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:


Oh, so do you think he shoulda rolled on his cousins an' nem??? Well, they rolled on him so who else is left for him to snitch on? lol

He's a dumbass, no doubt about it lol

But the fact that he was the only one who got in trouble.....they all should've gotten punished

Okay, I agree with that. But I believe those guys did jail time too. However, that's how the cookie crumbles and he was the big fish in that situation. This happens every day in the judicial system and is more proof that if you gon' do some illegal shit don't have accomplices and/or witnesses cuz best believe if it's me that gets caught, I'm telling it all and making up some shit for good measure. blahblah
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Stymie said:

bboy87 said:


and every black person thanks them lol
You ain't right. lol

Even though I did just have some Popeye's. lurking

And you didn't share?


AWW HELL NAW!
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Reply #25 posted 10/22/08 4:09pm

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Stymie said:

SCNDLS said:


People snitching don't change the fact that this fool, despite being a millionaire, bank rolled a brutal and illegal enterprise, not to mention killing animals with his bare hands. As for the comparison to game hunting I don't see the correlation at all. You don't raise, house, feed, and pay for medical attention for animals roaming free, then train them to tear each other apart. There's a big damn difference.
yeah, it's real fucked up what he did but we do raise animals only to electrocute them to death so we can have steak. Or we cut their heads off so we have get fried chicken or we shoot them so we can mount their heads to the wall. Vick is fucked up and even though it's not on the same level, it's still animals suffering.

I guess I just don't see it as the same. Most people are carnivores therefore some animals need to be raised and slaughtered to satisfy that need. Dogs, in this country, are mostly raised as pets and part of our families and are NOT food. These dogs were raised specifically to be torn apart by other dogs and killed by humans for underperforming. And everyone that I know that hunts actually consumes what they eat so it's not purely for sport. Man has hunted animals since the beginning of time and I view that differently than purposely breeding animals to kill each other for human enjoyment and profit. In my eyes, that shit's not even in the same ballpark, it ain't even the same sport. twocents
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bboy87 said:

Stymie said:

yeah, it's real fucked up what he did but we do raise animals only to electrocute them to death so we can have steak. Or we cut their heads off so we have get fried chicken or we shoot them so we can mount their heads to the wall. Vick is fucked up and even though it's not on the same level, it's still animals suffering.

and every black person thanks them lol


See. You just ADDIN' to it! lol
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Reply #27 posted 10/22/08 4:17pm

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SCNDLS said:

Stymie said:

yeah, it's real fucked up what he did but we do raise animals only to electrocute them to death so we can have steak. Or we cut their heads off so we have get fried chicken or we shoot them so we can mount their heads to the wall. Vick is fucked up and even though it's not on the same level, it's still animals suffering.

I guess I just don't see it as the same. Most people are carnivores therefore some animals need to be raised and slaughtered to satisfy that need. Dogs, in this country, are mostly raised as pets and part of our families and are NOT food. These dogs were raised specifically to be torn apart by other dogs and killed by humans for underperforming. And everyone that I know that hunts actually consumes what they eat so it's not purely for sport. Man has hunted animals since the beginning of time and I view that differently than purposely breeding animals to kill each other for human enjoyment and profit. In my eyes, that shit's not even in the same ballpark, it ain't even the same sport. twocents


You're talking about "man" that NEEDED to hunt for food and clothing from a particular animal, Stymie and I are talking about hunting for the sheer GAME of it, which is exactly the same thing Vick was convicted for - A "game" where an animal gets killed. Hunting for game = Dogfighting for game. No difference.
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Reply #28 posted 10/22/08 4:21pm

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Stymie said:

yeah, it's real fucked up what he did but we do raise animals only to electrocute them to death so we can have steak. Or we cut their heads off so we have get fried chicken or we shoot them so we can mount their heads to the wall. Vick is fucked up and even though it's not on the same level, it's still animals suffering.

I guess I just don't see it as the same. Most people are carnivores therefore some animals need to be raised and slaughtered to satisfy that need. Dogs, in this country, are mostly raised as pets and part of our families and are NOT food. These dogs were raised specifically to be torn apart by other dogs and killed by humans for underperforming. And everyone that I know that hunts actually consumes what they eat so it's not purely for sport. Man has hunted animals since the beginning of time and I view that differently than purposely breeding animals to kill each other for human enjoyment and profit. In my eyes, that shit's not even in the same ballpark, it ain't even the same sport. twocents
It's groovy you feel that way, I just don't see it as a huge difference, especially when it's just done for sport.
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