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Reply #180 posted 10/22/08 2:52pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

Flowers2 said:




uhm .. you're assuming and putting that label on all women... and I'm sorry but.... I'd rather be with a guy who will let me know at the door what he is about and tell me the truth.. instead of me investing and wasting my energy and time (which you cheating men don't give a shit about) ..into something that won't come to fruition or be anything real..... I'm sorry, your excuse is a cop out excuse for men.... they want to have their cake and eat it too.. and get pissed if the woman does it back to him.. simple... it's a cop out excuse.. talk to the hand please ..


I haven't gone through all the pages, but I've read some and had to reply before leaving for today...

No surprise here, but I agree Flowers. How on earth can you Mutha say that you have to lie about or hide the fact that you're sleeping around because we women wouldn't be able to handle that truth??? I don't know any woman who would rather be lied to than knowing the truth. I know I definitely appreciate it if a guy is honest and and spares me the heartache. If I know the guy is sleeping with others then I know what I'm getting in to and can appreaciate that he doesn't bull shit. But if I'd find out that he hasn't been honest about that then I know he's a freaking dillusional jerk.



Ya know how I know? Because I've seen TONS of females LOSE IT once they get the truth. YOU know. The ORG knows it. So let's PLEASE stop acting like this shit is foreign. Please. We've seen tales in the media - dudes getting their dicks cut off - but you wanna say ALL WOMEN are cool with the truth. Yeah, right! lol

But again, you guys are talking about BEFORE he does it. This is about AFTER he does it. Yeah, see...different emotions then, huh? lol
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Reply #181 posted 10/22/08 2:54pm

Stymie

MuthaFunka said:

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uhm .. you're assuming and putting that label on all women... and I'm sorry but.... I'd rather be with a guy who will let me know at the door what he is about and tell me the truth.. instead of me investing and wasting my energy and time (which you cheating men don't give a shit about) ..into something that won't come to fruition or be anything real..... I'm sorry, your excuse is a cop out excuse for men.... they want to have their cake and eat it too.. and get pissed if the woman does it back to him.. simple... it's a cop out excuse.. talk to the hand please ..


Wrong. Read it again. I said MOST women not ALL women. And again, the reason you aren't gonna run into too many dudes that will tell you UPFRONT that they're gonna fuck around is because they know damn well MOST women ain't gonna go for it. Most of you chicks in HERE are proving that men can't open that up for conversation without getting a frying pan to the dome! lol
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Reply #182 posted 10/22/08 2:55pm

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Stymie said:

Flowers2 said:




uhm .. you're assuming and putting that label on all women... and I'm sorry but.... I'd rather be with a guy who will let me know at the door what he is about and tell me the truth.. instead of me investing and wasting my energy and time (which you cheating men don't give a shit about) ..into something that won't come to fruition or be anything real..... I'm sorry, your excuse is a cop out excuse for men.... they want to have their cake and eat it too.. and get pissed if the woman does it back to him.. simple... it's a cop out excuse.. talk to the hand please ..
you are kinda making mutha's point for him. a lot of women don't want the guy who will be upfront and say "i may cheat on you". it is my opinion that most men cheat so it falls into the woman's court if she can deal with it.


Exactly. No female here that's saying they want to be told that the dude courting them will be sleeping with other women while they're together is gonna date that dude! NONE! THAT'S why men lie about the shit! lol

Men want their cake and eat it, too! It's just a fact. Now, MOST men want a stable chick that they can confide in and hang out with and such - their main chick, but they also want to be able to fuck other chicks, ESPECIALLY chicks they'd NEVER consider seriously dating. That's the whole "cake and eat it, too" thing.
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Reply #183 posted 10/22/08 2:56pm

Stymie

MuthaFunka said:

VenusBlingBling said:



I haven't gone through all the pages, but I've read some and had to reply before leaving for today...

No surprise here, but I agree Flowers. How on earth can you Mutha say that you have to lie about or hide the fact that you're sleeping around because we women wouldn't be able to handle that truth??? I don't know any woman who would rather be lied to than knowing the truth. I know I definitely appreciate it if a guy is honest and and spares me the heartache. If I know the guy is sleeping with others then I know what I'm getting in to and can appreaciate that he doesn't bull shit. But if I'd find out that he hasn't been honest about that then I know he's a freaking dillusional jerk.



Ya know how I know? Because I've seen TONS of females LOSE IT once they get the truth. YOU know. The ORG knows it. So let's PLEASE stop acting like this shit is foreign. Please. We've seen tales in the media - dudes getting their dicks cut off - but you wanna say ALL WOMEN are cool with the truth. Yeah, right! lol

But again, you guys are talking about BEFORE he does it. This is about AFTER he does it. Yeah, see...different emotions then, huh? lol
I have a freind who told a chick the truth upfront and when she found out there was another woman, she still lost it. lol
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Reply #184 posted 10/22/08 2:56pm

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Stymie said:

MuthaFunka said:



Wrong. Read it again. I said MOST women not ALL women. And again, the reason you aren't gonna run into too many dudes that will tell you UPFRONT that they're gonna fuck around is because they know damn well MOST women ain't gonna go for it. Most of you chicks in HERE are proving that men can't open that up for conversation without getting a frying pan to the dome! lol
Ding! Ding! Ding!! lol


Feel me? lol
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Reply #185 posted 10/22/08 2:57pm

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Stymie said:

Flowers2 said:




uhm .. you're assuming and putting that label on all women... and I'm sorry but.... I'd rather be with a guy who will let me know at the door what he is about and tell me the truth.. instead of me investing and wasting my energy and time (which you cheating men don't give a shit about) ..into something that won't come to fruition or be anything real..... I'm sorry, your excuse is a cop out excuse for men.... they want to have their cake and eat it too.. and get pissed if the woman does it back to him.. simple... it's a cop out excuse.. talk to the hand please ..
you are kinda making mutha's point for him. a lot of women don't want the guy who will be upfront and say "i may cheat on you". it is my opinion that most men cheat so it falls into the woman's court if she can deal with it.


No no no... I said this in the other thread.. if the dude wants 3 wives, then he should say so.. if he's tired with the relationship, he should say so... no, the truth isn't pretty, but that's life.... why should my life be depressing cause he wants to thrill seek? and they want to color it another color but what it is... a cop out excuse to be selfish they hold on to relationships cause they secretly don't want mess stuff up (although they already have) .....Go do what you want to do ... and let my life go... simple ..and that's me..
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Reply #186 posted 10/22/08 2:58pm

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I see a lot of responses start off with "we can handle the truth", then immediately veer off into what "I" want and would do....if "you" can handle it, then O.K. for you...but there are women (and men) out there who can't handle the truth...and will turn your honesty into what is prevalent in many of these responses..."you're a dog...you ain't shit...etc, etc, yada yada yada...."

it's been my experience that the truth, in many cases, is the LAST thing some folks want to hear...
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Reply #187 posted 10/22/08 3:00pm

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Stymie said:

MuthaFunka said:




Ya know how I know? Because I've seen TONS of females LOSE IT once they get the truth. YOU know. The ORG knows it. So let's PLEASE stop acting like this shit is foreign. Please. We've seen tales in the media - dudes getting their dicks cut off - but you wanna say ALL WOMEN are cool with the truth. Yeah, right! lol

But again, you guys are talking about BEFORE he does it. This is about AFTER he does it. Yeah, see...different emotions then, huh? lol
I have a freind who told a chick the truth upfront and when she found out there was another woman, she still lost it. lol


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Reply #188 posted 10/22/08 3:01pm

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reneGade20 said:

I see a lot of responses start off with "we can handle the truth", then immediately veer off into what "I" want and would do....if "you" can handle it, then O.K. for you...but there are women (and men) out there who can't handle the truth...and will turn your honesty into what is prevalent in many of these responses..."you're a dog...you ain't shit...etc, etc, yada yada yada...."

it's been my experience that the truth, in many cases, is the LAST thing some folks want to hear...
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Preeeeeach! clapping
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Reply #189 posted 10/22/08 3:12pm

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reneGade20 said:

I see a lot of responses start off with "we can handle the truth", then immediately veer off into what "I" want and would do....if "you" can handle it, then O.K. for you...but there are women (and men) out there who can't handle the truth...and will turn your honesty into what is prevalent in many of these responses..."you're a dog...you ain't shit...etc, etc, yada yada yada...."

it's been my experience that the truth, in many cases, is the LAST thing some folks want to hear...
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Renegade... I said this in the other thread... if folks want to live in fantasy denial and not accept the truth.. then that's fine for them, that's they're choice.. but don't put that off on people LIKE ME ... 'Oh, I can't tell you, cause I KNOW you can't handle the truth' rolleyes all that says to me is.. you want to pacify your guilt and your ways by not telling, that's all it reads... I'm a realist and I'm not hearing that.. no, life is not pretty, the truth is ugly...and truth comes out anyway.. why can't a person just be an adult about it?
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Reply #190 posted 10/22/08 3:17pm

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reneGade20 said:

I see a lot of responses start off with "we can handle the truth", then immediately veer off into what "I" want and would do....if "you" can handle it, then O.K. for you...but there are women (and men) out there who can't handle the truth...and will turn your honesty into what is prevalent in many of these responses..."you're a dog...you ain't shit...etc, etc, yada yada yada...."

it's been my experience that the truth, in many cases, is the LAST thing some folks want to hear...
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Of course there are women who can't handle the truth. But Muth also kind of said that no or at least most women can't and I don't agree with that. Maybe you fellas are fishing in the wrong part of the ocean...

Plus, yes I was talking about the guy being honest BEFORE he starts sleeping with the girl. I mean he probably knows very well if he's a one woman man or not so of course I'm gonna get mad if he's not honest with it. But even if he lies and then decides to tell me that he's with several ladies after we've started to be intimate I'd still prefer that to him not telling me at all. Why? Because in most cases I will find it out sooner or later and I'd rather hear it from the horses mouth than from some friend and feel even more betrayed. Yes, I will be furious and cut his thing of (kiddin') if the guy tells me he's been hiding from me that he's fooling around but I still prefer it that way.
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Reply #191 posted 10/22/08 3:24pm

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Of course there are women who can't handle the truth. But Muth also kind of said that no or at least most women can't and I don't agree with that. Maybe you fellas are fishing in the wrong part of the ocean...


lol Where are y'all reading from? Why are y'all fuckin' up MY words and twisting them and shit? There's no "kind of said" to it, I CONCRETELY SAID - MOST WOMEN. And it's true. Why do I KNOW it's true that MOST WOMEN can't handle the truth?...BECAUSE MEN HAD TO HAVE ATTEMPTED THE TRUTH AT SOME POINT TO REALIZE THAT LYING IS A BETTER CHOICE TO GO WITH! lol
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Reply #192 posted 10/22/08 3:29pm

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new pussy + commitment jitters.


thats pretty much it.



i'd imagine the same goes with women.


just replace "pussy" with "dick".


unless your gay of course


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Reply #193 posted 10/22/08 3:33pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Of course there are women who can't handle the truth. But Muth also kind of said that no or at least most women can't and I don't agree with that. Maybe you fellas are fishing in the wrong part of the ocean...


lol Where are y'all reading from? Why are y'all fuckin' up MY words and twisting them and shit? There's no "kind of said" to it, I CONCRETELY SAID - MOST WOMEN. And it's true. Why do I KNOW it's true that MOST WOMEN can't handle the truth?...BECAUSE MEN HAD TO HAVE ATTEMPTED THE TRUTH AT SOME POINT TO REALIZE THAT LYING IS A BETTER CHOICE TO GO WITH! lol


shake You are exactly the kind of man that makes so many of us women think that men simply are bastards, the kind that causes unnecessary heart ache and sorrow and that I detest (in the love area).
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Reply #194 posted 10/22/08 3:33pm

Stymie

Flowers2 said:

Stymie said:

you are kinda making mutha's point for him. a lot of women don't want the guy who will be upfront and say "i may cheat on you". it is my opinion that most men cheat so it falls into the woman's court if she can deal with it.


No no no... I said this in the other thread.. if the dude wants 3 wives, then he should say so.. if he's tired with the relationship, he should say so... no, the truth isn't pretty, but that's life.... why should my life be depressing cause he wants to thrill seek? and they want to color it another color but what it is... a cop out excuse to be selfish they hold on to relationships cause they secretly don't want mess stuff up (although they already have) .....Go do what you want to do ... and let my life go... simple ..and that's me..
See, you are saying you'd be depressed and you want the guy to "let your life go". if he really wanted to be with you, can you understand this would be the reason he would lie to you?
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Reply #195 posted 10/22/08 3:36pm

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Men do not tell the truth for TWO reasons.

1. Drama and fights will commence.
2. She won't be monogamous either.

These factors play into the lying part. Some men are not cool with getting served up by another man because his ego couldn't handle it. Just as her ego can't handle him enjoying another woman more than her.
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Reply #196 posted 10/22/08 3:38pm

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paintedlady said:

Men do not tell the truth for TWO reasons.

1. Drama and fights will commence.
2. She won't be monogamous either.

These factors play into the lying part. Some men are not cool with getting served up by another man because his ego couldn't handle it. Just as her ego can't handle him enjoying another woman more than her.


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Reply #197 posted 10/22/08 3:41pm

Stymie

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Men do not tell the truth for TWO reasons.

1. Drama and fights will commence.
2. She won't be monogamous either.

These factors play into the lying part. Some men are not cool with getting served up by another man because his ego couldn't handle it. Just as her ego can't handle him enjoying another woman more than her.
PREACH!!!! lol

I suck hella dick though. I don't worry about that being better with another woman. lol
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Reply #198 posted 10/22/08 3:43pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Of course there are women who can't handle the truth. But Muth also kind of said that no or at least most women can't and I don't agree with that. Maybe you fellas are fishing in the wrong part of the ocean...


lol Where are y'all reading from? Why are y'all fuckin' up MY words and twisting them and shit? There's no "kind of said" to it, I CONCRETELY SAID - MOST WOMEN. And it's true. Why do I KNOW it's true that MOST WOMEN can't handle the truth?...BECAUSE MEN HAD TO HAVE ATTEMPTED THE TRUTH AT SOME POINT TO REALIZE THAT LYING IS A BETTER CHOICE TO GO WITH! lol



So are you saying that if you can't handle the truth you don't deserve the truth???
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Reply #199 posted 10/22/08 3:46pm

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Stymie said:

paintedlady said:

Men do not tell the truth for TWO reasons.

1. Drama and fights will commence.
2. She won't be monogamous either.

These factors play into the lying part. Some men are not cool with getting served up by another man because his ego couldn't handle it. Just as her ego can't handle him enjoying another woman more than her.
PREACH!!!! lol

I suck hella dick though. I don't worry about that being better with another woman. lol


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Reply #200 posted 10/22/08 3:48pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

paintedlady said:

Men do not tell the truth for TWO reasons.

1. Drama and fights will commence.
2. She won't be monogamous either.

These factors play into the lying part. Some men are not cool with getting served up by another man because his ego couldn't handle it. Just as her ego can't handle him enjoying another woman more than her.


confuse

I speak for myself mmostly, but if my man was like "Baby I love you, but I wanna fuck other women" I'd be like "Ok, muthafuckka.... me too."

But that's only if he was great in bed... if he was aiight, then I'd have to let him go. lol
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Reply #201 posted 10/22/08 3:50pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

MuthaFunka said:



lol Where are y'all reading from? Why are y'all fuckin' up MY words and twisting them and shit? There's no "kind of said" to it, I CONCRETELY SAID - MOST WOMEN. And it's true. Why do I KNOW it's true that MOST WOMEN can't handle the truth?...BECAUSE MEN HAD TO HAVE ATTEMPTED THE TRUTH AT SOME POINT TO REALIZE THAT LYING IS A BETTER CHOICE TO GO WITH! lol


shake You are exactly the kind of man that makes so many of us women think that men simply are bastards, the kind that causes unnecessary heart ache and sorrow and that I detest (in the love area).


Well, I heard a comedian once say "Ladies, if you're STILL sayin' 'Men ain't shit' and your over 30...then maybe it's YOU" wink .

Again, don't shoot the messenger. biggrin
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Reply #202 posted 10/22/08 3:50pm

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Stymie said:

See, you are saying you'd be depressed and you want the guy to "let your life go". if he really wanted to be with you, can you understand this would be the reason he would lie to you?



he can't have his cake and eat it too... his lying to want to keep me around doesn't cut it.... if he's not willing to want to sacrifice in the relationship (by making his woman happy and being faithful) .. then he doesn't need to be in one... a female needs to say 'see ya' wave .. somebody else will do what he won't...
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Reply #203 posted 10/22/08 3:52pm

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VenusBlingBling said:



shake You are exactly the kind of man that makes so many of us women think that men simply are bastards, the kind that causes unnecessary heart ache and sorrow and that I detest (in the love area).


Well, I heard a comedian once say "Ladies, if you're STILL sayin' 'Men ain't shit' and your over 30...then maybe it's YOU" wink .

Again, don't shoot the messenger. biggrin



yeah.. and men who are over 30, who cheat cause they don't care about women .... ain't shit either.. .. and dat's the fact jack...
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Reply #204 posted 10/22/08 3:52pm

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paintedlady said:

Men do not tell the truth for TWO reasons.

1. Drama and fights will commence.
2. She won't be monogamous either.

These factors play into the lying part. Some men are not cool with getting served up by another man because his ego couldn't handle it. Just as her ego can't handle him enjoying another woman more than her.


No, change that to ALL MEN! lol - NO MAN can handle the fact that some dude went up in "his stuff"! Trust and believe that shit! Men don't forgive as easily as women do. That's a hard issue for a man to shake from his head.
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Reply #205 posted 10/22/08 3:54pm

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veronikka said:

MuthaFunka said:



lol Where are y'all reading from? Why are y'all fuckin' up MY words and twisting them and shit? There's no "kind of said" to it, I CONCRETELY SAID - MOST WOMEN. And it's true. Why do I KNOW it's true that MOST WOMEN can't handle the truth?...BECAUSE MEN HAD TO HAVE ATTEMPTED THE TRUTH AT SOME POINT TO REALIZE THAT LYING IS A BETTER CHOICE TO GO WITH! lol



So are you saying that if you can't handle the truth you don't deserve the truth???


No. What I'm saying is, MOST women simply can't handle the truth. We ALL deserve the truth. We ALL can't handle the truth.
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Reply #206 posted 10/22/08 3:55pm

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paintedlady said:

VenusBlingBling said:



confuse

I speak for myself mmostly, but if my man was like "Baby I love you, but I wanna fuck other women" I'd be like "Ok, muthafuckka.... me too."

But that's only if he was great in bed... if he was aiight, then I'd have to let him go. lol


smile ...you remind me of my ex-soulmate sometimes
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Reply #207 posted 10/22/08 3:57pm

Stymie

VenusBlingBling said:

MuthaFunka said:



lol Where are y'all reading from? Why are y'all fuckin' up MY words and twisting them and shit? There's no "kind of said" to it, I CONCRETELY SAID - MOST WOMEN. And it's true. Why do I KNOW it's true that MOST WOMEN can't handle the truth?...BECAUSE MEN HAD TO HAVE ATTEMPTED THE TRUTH AT SOME POINT TO REALIZE THAT LYING IS A BETTER CHOICE TO GO WITH! lol


shake You are exactly the kind of man that makes so many of us women think that men simply are bastards, the kind that causes unnecessary heart ache and sorrow and that I detest (in the love area).
No he's not. He telling you the truth from his experiences. I actually appreciate his perspective on this. Most men wouldn't be this honest.
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Reply #208 posted 10/22/08 3:57pm

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Flowers2 said:

MuthaFunka said:



Well, I heard a comedian once say "Ladies, if you're STILL sayin' 'Men ain't shit' and your over 30...then maybe it's YOU" wink .

Again, don't shoot the messenger. biggrin



yeah.. and men who are over 30, who cheat cause they don't care about women .... ain't shit either.. .. and dat's the fact jack...


Maybe? Who knows? But the one thing you won't EVER hear from those 30-year-old men "Women ain't shit" because that 30-year-old man KNOWS that there's another woman out there that IS shit thumbs up!.
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Reply #209 posted 10/22/08 4:00pm

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Stymie said:

VenusBlingBling said:



shake You are exactly the kind of man that makes so many of us women think that men simply are bastards, the kind that causes unnecessary heart ache and sorrow and that I detest (in the love area).
No he's not. He telling you the truth from his experiences. I actually appreciate his perspective on this. Most men wouldn't be this honest.



Exactly. I can ONLY speak from my experiences.
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