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tackam said:

why did I go and have 3 kids I've got to put up with him WAY past his use by date

Imago said:

I find that incredibly offensive.

ZombieKitten said:

CarrieMpls said:

oh my damn.. I didn't see this post... PREACH!!!!

THis is for the housewives.....



Its one thing to cheat by way of conversations throughout the day. It's entirely another to not have the phone answered by your husband cause his cute little lunch date would be offended.

Stymie said:

If you were married to Casey Spooner, you'd cheat too.

CarrieMpls said:

I never said it DOES make it right.



However, that being said, I would have cheated on hilary for sure.

Fauxie said:

Fuck yoru stank ass pussy.

Imago said:

Hillary would never have let you.

Post #82-84 explains my answer

http://prince.org/msg/100...sg_6097217

I will defend mens' desire to cheat as being unavoidable, but not the action itself.

I think men cheat because they're weak. Too weak to resist temptation, and too weak to be honest and leave their partners.

Children & marriage may make it more complicated, but I don't think they change anything.

NDRU said:

But it's only considered weak because people have been taught one must be monogamous and polygamy is wrong. If you look at older/ancient civilizations where polygamy was the way, I can pretty much much guarantee none of those men felt weak. In fact, those men were actually looked upon as being the strongest of men just to have so many women to be able to satisfy. So, to deem someone "weak" because they aren't able to resist what's natural is a twisted societal rule/law.

MuthaFunka said:

If it's "natural" for men to be polyamorous as you claim, it would stand to reason it's "natural" for women to be monogamous. If either sex has a tendency towards either, we know which way that's gonna go.

So why is it a twisted societal rule/law if it's what the vast majority of women would consider "natural" for them? Why would only a man's tendencies be considered?

It's all bullshit. People should do what they want and only commit to what they want. That's it. If you don't give false expectations, there's no cheating.

CarrieMpls said:

and that's the bottom line.. cause why the hell even bother with relationships and lie to people... do what you want and be real about it..

CarrieMpls said:

I was answering NDRU's comment. I've stated over and over again that monogamy is unnatural for BOTH men and women. And it's twisted because it forces people to think and act unnaturally.

And trust me, you won't be the ONLY nor the LAST female to call it bullshit, because MOST women can't fathom ANY of this because they've been (ridiculously) told all their lives that there's just ONE MAN for them .

The reason a lot of men don't say "Hey, I'm gonna fuck other broads" when they committ is because MOST women can't handle that truth and they won't go for it.

Flowers2 said:

Because men know most women aren't "built" for that type of truthness nor are they built to accept such truthness. Again, THAT'S why men lie to begin with - You ain't gonna be cool with the truth!

MuthaFunka said:

That's what I said.

MuthaFunka said:

why commit then? really whats the point if ur gonna eff other females?

MuthaFunka said:

It's not because we can't handle the truth, I'd rather hear the truth. I'd much much MUCH rather a man tell me he can't be faithful so I won't waste time and move on to someone who's willing to make that commitment to me. And therein lies the problem. You can't live up to your desired woman's expectations so you lie to get her anyway. It's not that they can't handle you wanting to sleep with everyone around, it's that they won't bother commiting to you if that's what you're gonna do. ANd you can't handle not getting what you want. So lie and cheat.
There are woman who are happy in non-monogamous relationships, that's all any man who isn't in to monogamy needs to find. It's freaking simple.

And I've no delusions of believing there's one man out there who is my soulmate with whom I'll live happily ever after. I think that's bullshit as well. But I think there are plenty of advantanges to having a monogamous relationship and don't believe it's a "twisted" expectation. See - I think non-monogamy is great if that's what works for you. It doesn't for me.

sweet said:

exactly!

What have I missed? I haven't been here for 2 days and the thread is already 6 pages. I will have to catch up tomorrow

Thanks for your input.

MuthaFunka said:

uhm .. you're assuming and putting that label on all women... and I'm sorry but.... I'd rather be with a guy who will let me know at the door what he is about and tell me the truth.. instead of me investing and wasting my energy and time (which you cheating men don't give a shit about) ..into something that won't come to fruition or be anything real..... I'm sorry, your excuse is a cop out excuse for men.... they want to have their cake and eat it too.. and get pissed if the woman does it back to him.. simple... it's a cop out excuse.. please ..

sweet said:

I'm SO glad you asked that - because SOCIETY has told MEN & WOMEN that the NORMAL THING TO DO is to SETTLE DOWN (commit). Again, it's all part of the social template that's been created for us. Men are are told that after they get successful, they should SETTLE DOWN and have a family as a way of showing that they're responsible as well as successful.

CarrieMpls said:

Right, but you're talking about wanting him to tell you he's gonna fuck some other broad BEFORE he actually does it . That's usually NEVER the scenario! So like I said, most women can't handle their man telling them he JUST GOT THROUGH FUCKING SOME CHICK, and that's my point about not being able to handle the truth. And yes, it works that way for men as well.

Flowers2 said:

Wrong. Read it again. I said MOST women not ALL women. And again, the reason you aren't gonna run into too many dudes that will tell you UPFRONT that they're gonna fuck around is because they know damn well MOST women ain't gonna go for it. Most of you chicks in HERE are proving that men can't open that up for conversation without getting a frying pan to the dome!

MuthaFunka said:

and then.. THEN.. you have the NERVE .. to tell 'other men'.. who want to commit to one woman that 'it's not natural for you to do that' ??? un-fucking-believable... because you don't want to commit to one woman.. you tell another man (who does) that's not natural??? you know Mutha.. you are a fucking trip for real..

Flowers2 said:

I haven't gone through all the pages, but I've read some and had to reply before leaving for today...

No surprise here, but I agree Flowers. How on earth can you Mutha say that you have to lie about or hide the fact that you're sleeping around because we women wouldn't be able to handle that truth??? I don't know any woman who would rather be lied to than knowing the truth. I know I definitely appreciate it if a guy is honest and and spares me the heartache. If I know the guy is sleeping with others then I know what I'm getting in to and can appreaciate that he doesn't bull shit. But if I'd find out that he hasn't been honest about that then I know he's a freaking dillusional jerk.

Flowers2 said:

you are kinda making mutha's point for him. a lot of women don't want the guy who will be upfront and say "i may cheat on you". it is my opinion that most men cheat so it falls into the woman's court if she can deal with it.

Flowers2 said:

Good lawd! Whoa! Slow ya roll. I'm not telling ANY man to DO ANYTHING? I'm just telling you that monogamy ISN'T natural. That's all. I never said I didn't want to commit, I NEVER brought THAT shit up, so I have NO IDEA where YOU'RE getting THAT shit from. Again - SLOW YA ROLL. Take a DEEEEP breath. Calm down. Sheesh!