ZombieKitten said:

I know! Damn them. Taught me how to be happy too. I don't think I'll ever forgive them. I could be having sex with lots of different women right now instead of being in love.

Fauxie said:

I DO think love for one's mate is conditional, I'll have to agree with MF here, it doesn't compare at all with the love I have for my babies. I've been in love more than once too, all times I've thought he was "the one".

Fauxie said:

I think you need to bring it up with them.

Stymie said:

sure, but WHY are they whores?

ZombieKitten said:

maybe thats part of my out look. out of three guys, my dad and his two brothers.. whose parents (my grandparents) i would say had an ideal marriage, every single one of them has been through a divorce at some point in their lives.
Even after the break up its still drama with everyone else they meet.
It always seems two part, my uncles/dad are lame weaklings and the women they pick are control freak gold diggers. Well one of my uncles is cool, he knows better than to marry again.

Fauxie said:

I disagree with Mutha as well. I wasn't taught anything about monogamy or anything. What do you have to be taught to know you don't want to share someone?

One thing society has done is labelled women "whores" when they cheat but in men, it almost seems a cause to celebrate.

Charlotte said something that struck me: all the fucking some men do, not planting roots when women get stuck (willingly or un) with kids. Makes ya think.

ZombieKitten said:

I'll have to wait until I ( ) have children to really feel I can give my opinion on it. When I say "the one" I'm still speaking in the present tense though, I know that. Let's see what the future holds. :fingerscrossed: Who knows what other people really feel about/in love? I certainly don't, but I suppose it doesn't matter so much. We all just wanna be happy.

Stymie said:

Is our purpose merely to reproduce? Cause really we should stop it already the place is full!!!

OK, so all these men fucking around, and it's OK for them, but not for those they are fucking, cause really they probably aren't all single available women are they? they are "whores" aren't they aaaarghhh!

Fauxie said:

Stymie said:

My parents never said 'Hey little fauxie, see how happy your mother and I are? It's because we're faithful to each other. Don't cheat, son."

I just assumed they were happy and a solid couple because they loved each other so much. It would be hard for them to fake what I saw/see from them towards each other. I just feel I was lucky to be raised in such a family. I think I certainly learned something subconsciously, but I wasn't filling my mind with any particular ideas when I happened to meet someone quite out of the blue and fell in love with them. I want my wife, not someone else. Not for a relationship and not for sex. There will always be more attractive people in the world, but can I just love my wife and fuck my wife for the rest of our lives? I love her and it makes me happy. I'm quite ok with it if you'll let me.

ZombieKitten said:

Your boys are just gorgeous. And funny too. Aren't kids funny! They're awesome.

Stymie said:

That, too!

Fauxie said:

aaawww

Fauxie said:

that's beautiful.

Stymie said:

I try. Or rather, I don't.

'Cause that's another thing. Sometimes someone will praise me on being faithful and devoted and I don't really want to take credit for loving someone. I thought that was the whole point of love, and marriage too if that's what you're into. I suppose it just reminds me that I 'chose' well and I should always make the most of what I have. Perhaps if I hadn't met my wife I could've been with someone else and cheated. I'm not so ignorant as to think I could never be capable, but I've no desire to find out. Love, please. kthnx

Fauxie said:

well yeah, initially it does just come naturally! not to be a party pooper, but you do have to work on it a bit later

Fauxie said:

SO undoom. but somehow cool anyway.

evenstar3 said:

Yeah, I talk a good DOOM game, but...

ZombieKitten said:

Oh, I know it's hard work. I love my wife, as I've said, but it's not as though I like her. She's horrible. I remember her standing on the bed, screaming at me, and beating me on the back with clothes hangers. Really, she's awful. It's all good fun though.

noimageatall said:

Say that, sista.

Cuz I'd fuck around and be on an episode of Snapped.

SCNDLS said:

Oooweee!

SCNDLS said:

You can be all things to a person and it still not be enough.

Stymie said:

That's cuz it's impossible to be ALL things to someone and anyone that tries to do that has failed from the start.

SCNDLS said:

SCNDLS said:

What I meant by that is you can take care of your man: mentally, sexually, etc., and he still may want to go out and get his dick wet.

Stymie said:

It's a natural thang.

MuthaFunka said:

Dude, ain't nuthin' cool about being with someone and bonin' on the side. Stay single.

MuthaFunka said:

but WHY!!!!
really, all conditioning aside, and take it for what it is, a primitive drive if you will, why is it so incompatible with the way it SHOULD be according to the church and society - and why did THEY evolve against the grain of a man's natural urges?

Stymie said:

No doubt, and if we've agreed to be in a committed, monogamous relationship. . . that's.his.ASS! I'm not a violent person, but I know the county jail has a penthouse with my name on it if I catch a muthafucka that I REALLY love cheating.

ZombieKitten said:

I don't think 'church' and 'society' and so many of the issues of socialization are necessarily everything that makes up our morality. Is it possible that there is a natural conflict between the primitive drive MF's talking about and an equally inherent, ingrained morality in our genetic make-up that is just as natural at our most basic level? Perhaps we naturally have this conflict. Who's to say we're not born feeling that something is wrong, but also with the inherent propensity to want to do it anyway because of another aspect of our natural urges?