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Seriously, what's Tyler Perry's appeal? I just don't get it. He's being made out to be this extremely talented but i don't see it. almost all of his plays and movies follow the same tired pattern: woman gets abused by a man, then a good man comes by and saves the day.
Yawn. I just saw his new movie The Family That Preys. and again, it was just very boring and predictable. (and wtf was he doing with that afro wig?!) and i'm not just some TP hater. I have nothing against him at all, i just wanna know why the guy is famous | |
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Because people love generic shit, thats what it tells me Otherwise he wouldn't have a chance. But it is ironic, his 1/2 assed films get alot of success while Spile Lee funds his movies from overseas Its weird. | |
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You know, I don't get it either. I have tried to figure it out and the only conclusion that I can come up with is that mainstream black america is fine with weak, uncreative material.
I am a black american and have questioned my "blackness"(if you will) when it comes to things like Tyler's movies. All of my black friends and my family members seem to think that his plays, movies and tv shows are some of the best things that has come along in years. I try to argue my point-of-view and always get told that I have unrealistic expectations from the entertainment world. I think his television show is one of the worst tv shows on television. The acting is horrible (come on, Allen Payne is the "star" and the boy hasn't had a job in 20 years....after watching the show, I can see why), the directing is bad and the story lines are very very predictable. I think the character of Curtis is wayyyy over the top. It's like the actor doesn't know the difference between stage acting and television acting. I don't plan on seeing the movie. I'm sure that some of my family members will have it on DVD by Christmas (even if it's a bootleg) and I'll be forced to sit around the television after Christmas dinner and watch that crap. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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i really don't know. his movies don't appeal to me at all.
in fact, i think i'm going to go watch an old Sopranos episode. | |
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I think it's becaue of the potential and what he's TRYING to do, rather than the actual product itself. There is a desire for this kind of entertainment, and at the moment, he's the guy filling the void.
Someone else with some real talent and imagination will come along and do it better with top-notch quality and we'll never hear about Tyler Perry again. | |
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child I don't know. But everytime I say something negative about his crap films, I get accused of self-hate. what's up with that? | |
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errant said: Someone else with some real talent and imagination will come along and do it better with top-notch quality and we'll never hear about Tyler Perry again. Actually there're people who could mop his ass with their "understudys" existing and they still can't seem to get their products distributed, because black people supposedly don't WANT to go and watch movies that won't display coonary and buffoonery Hell, even Angela Bassett acted in one of his movies and it gets worse, she's acting in the Notorious BIG's biopic next year, what does that tell you? Even though she could act her ass off with the big dogs, she only settled with the 1/2 assed. And all of her peers are either acting in "Plays" or in TV series. Lets face it,,,black filmmakers are in a BIG bind these days and the reason is because Hollywood doesn't see a profit in a black movie with substance as long as there's no "Stepin Fetchit" effect in it. | |
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Well this is an interesting topic. As a black american myself, I do appreciate what he's trying to do in the industry. He's trying to bring quality black movies to the big screen that just don't portray black americans as drug dealers, prostitues, rappers, or thugs. Sort of like what "Love Jones", "The Best Man", "Love & Basketball", "Brown Sugar", "Something New", etc. brought to the screen...except Perry's films teach a moral life lesson as his plays did. His messages maybe redundant, but they are true life lessons and the situations in his movies do actually happen in real life. I think the quality of his films are sometimes so-so, especially with some of the unknown actors he handpicks for the roles, but it seems now he's trying to use more known black actors and actresses for his movies. I haven't seen the one that is out now, but I have heard that it was pretty good. I did especially love the "Why Did I Get Married" movie that came out earlier this year, although Janet Jackson and her character sickened me to high hell.
I love some of Spike Lee's movies too. And yes it is a shame that he has to struggle for funding for his movies, but then again, there are a lot of things that quite are unfair in life that really shouldn't be so. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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I haven't liked any of his movies, but the Madea plays have consistently cracked me up. The Normal Whores Club | |
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missfee said: I did especially love the "Why Did I Get Married" movie that came out earlier this year, although Janet Jackson and her character sickened me to high hell.
I wanted to see this, but changed my mind since I didn't hear anything good about it til your post just now. The Normal Whores Club | |
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Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black. Think about it, who else is he vying for that crowds attention with? No one.
He had a HUGE underground following with his plays and it crossed over to his films. Are his films formulaic and predictable? Yes. But how can anyone here hold ONLY him to having predictable films when MOST of Hollywood is putting out predictable shit, ESPECIALLY remakes? All Tyler's done is tapped into a demographic that has been wanting some "food" and no one can fault him for being able to do that, regardless of what they think about his films. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black. Think about it, who else is he vying for that crowds attention with? No one.
He had a HUGE underground following with his plays and it crossed over to his films. Are his films formulaic and predictable? Yes. But how can anyone here hold ONLY him to having predictable films when MOST of Hollywood is putting out predictable shit, ESPECIALLY remakes? All Tyler's done is tapped into a demographic that has been wanting some "food" and no one can fault him for being able to do that, regardless of what they think about his films. Damn! You nailed on a bald head. | |
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FunkMistress said: missfee said: I did especially love the "Why Did I Get Married" movie that came out earlier this year, although Janet Jackson and her character sickened me to high hell.
I wanted to see this, but changed my mind since I didn't hear anything good about it til your post just now. Yeah this movie was one of the better ones he made. I couldn't stand that "Daddy's Little Girls" movie. Terrible acting in that movie just made me want to puke. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Harlepolis said: MuthaFunka said: Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black. Think about it, who else is he vying for that crowds attention with? No one.
He had a HUGE underground following with his plays and it crossed over to his films. Are his films formulaic and predictable? Yes. But how can anyone here hold ONLY him to having predictable films when MOST of Hollywood is putting out predictable shit, ESPECIALLY remakes? All Tyler's done is tapped into a demographic that has been wanting some "food" and no one can fault him for being able to do that, regardless of what they think about his films. Damn! You nailed on a bald head. Hey. Just keepin' it real. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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I don't get it either. I don't think he is funny, nor his plays. And that House of Payne show is a hot ghetto mess. | |
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MuthaFunka said: Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black. Think about it, who else is he vying for that crowds attention with? No one.
He had a HUGE underground following with his plays and it crossed over to his films. Are his films formulaic and predictable? Yes. But how can anyone here hold ONLY him to having predictable films when MOST of Hollywood is putting out predictable shit, ESPECIALLY remakes? All Tyler's done is tapped into a demographic that has been wanting some "food" and no one can fault him for being able to do that, regardless of what they think about his films. Agreed. ...and actually, I like his movies. Standard Hollywood fluff that center on the themes of family, faith, forgiveness, and redemption. Those are simple, core values that resonate with me. If I want high-brow, thought provoking material that will shatter me to my core, then I'll go read Nietzsche, but I'm not looking for that in a commercial or pop movie release. | |
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MuthaFunka said: Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black. Think about it, who else is he vying for that crowds attention with? No one.
He had a HUGE underground following with his plays and it crossed over to his films. Are his films formulaic and predictable? Yes. But how can anyone here hold ONLY him to having predictable films when MOST of Hollywood is putting out predictable shit, ESPECIALLY remakes? All Tyler's done is tapped into a demographic that has been wanting some "food" and no one can fault him for being able to do that, regardless of what they think about his films. Yeah, but this Christian black finds his movies really, really bad. I think his movies appeal to a certain subsection of Christian blacks. There's probably no way I can type that without sounding snobby. But, oh well. I'd take a good movie over Perry's stuff any day. | |
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Ottensen said: MuthaFunka said: Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black. Think about it, who else is he vying for that crowds attention with? No one.
He had a HUGE underground following with his plays and it crossed over to his films. Are his films formulaic and predictable? Yes. But how can anyone here hold ONLY him to having predictable films when MOST of Hollywood is putting out predictable shit, ESPECIALLY remakes? All Tyler's done is tapped into a demographic that has been wanting some "food" and no one can fault him for being able to do that, regardless of what they think about his films. Agreed. ...and actually, I like his movies. Standard Hollywood fluff that center on the themes of family, faith, forgiveness, and redemption. Those are simple, core values that resonate with me. If I want high-brow, thought provoking material that will shatter me to my core, then I'll go read Nietzsche, but I'm not looking for that in a commercial or pop movie release. And that's all he's shootin' for. He'll even tell you that. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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ThreadBare said: MuthaFunka said: Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black. Think about it, who else is he vying for that crowds attention with? No one.
He had a HUGE underground following with his plays and it crossed over to his films. Are his films formulaic and predictable? Yes. But how can anyone here hold ONLY him to having predictable films when MOST of Hollywood is putting out predictable shit, ESPECIALLY remakes? All Tyler's done is tapped into a demographic that has been wanting some "food" and no one can fault him for being able to do that, regardless of what they think about his films. Yeah, but this Christian black finds his movies really, really bad. I think his movies appeal to a certain subsection of Christian blacks. There's probably no way I can type that without sounding snobby. But, oh well. I'd take a good movie over Perry's stuff any day. No, you don't come off snobby at all. It is what it is. And his flicks are for a specific segment of Black Christians. He mixes in some "ghetto" with some "faith" and there are a bunch of church-goers that adhere to that mix. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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God. I can NOT FUCKING STAND him. NOT funny. Weird looking. In the closet.
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My wife happened to be watching Diary of a Mad Black Woman the other night, and I walked by, sat, and watched the rest of the movie with her. My thoughts:
1. Not a bad movie, a little light in the ass as far as substance, but funny and dramatic. 2. Tyler Perry is as gay as Richard Simmons leading a workout for the Village People in San Francisco. *Note - I don't know a thing about him, don't care to find out, don't care to see another one of his movies or plays, but he strikes me as GAY, not that there's anything wrong with that... Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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I just saw 'family that preys' and I enjoyed it | |
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JerseyKRS said: God. I can NOT FUCKING STAND him. NOT funny. Weird looking. In the closet.
And at least some of those predictable Hollywood movies have some marginal entertainment value...his movie's just plain old blow. | |
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I never really dug his plays because i am not a play person. They
tend to put me to sleep but i've only attempted to watch meet the browns so i can't give an objective opinion about his plays. I have appreciated his movies i've seen. I just think he has done a good job in terms of bringing good wholesome movies to the urban arena versus your predictable gangster movies with rappers, guns, and drugs involved. If tyler perry's movies are considered predictable i sure as hell would take that over any trifling ass made for bet movie like state property. Don't laugh at my funk
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InsatiableCream said: I just don't get it. He's being made out to be this extremely talented but i don't see it. almost all of his plays and movies follow the same tired pattern: woman gets abused by a man, then a good man comes by and saves the day.
Yawn. I just saw his new movie The Family That Preys. and again, it was just very boring and predictable. (and wtf was he doing with that afro wig?!) and i'm not just some TP hater. I have nothing against him at all, i just wanna know why the guy is famous I have to agree, they are ALL the same and I too don't see what the big draw is. After seeing one movie about it I'm over the storyline, they're starting to remind me of the Lifetime movies, hell the Lifetime Channel. Though I do love me some Madea, she embodies many in my family. | |
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Statuesqque said: InsatiableCream said: I just don't get it. He's being made out to be this extremely talented but i don't see it. almost all of his plays and movies follow the same tired pattern: woman gets abused by a man, then a good man comes by and saves the day.
Yawn. I just saw his new movie The Family That Preys. and again, it was just very boring and predictable. (and wtf was he doing with that afro wig?!) and i'm not just some TP hater. I have nothing against him at all, i just wanna know why the guy is famous I have to agree, they are ALL the same and I too don't see what the big draw is. After seeing one movie about it I'm over the storyline, they're starting to remind me of the Lifetime movies, hell the Lifetime Channel. Though I do love me some Madea, she embodies many in my family. Last time I checked, the Lifetime channel was pretty popular lol....I know plenty of people who LOVE it.I really think that is what this is really about. There are some people who are able to relate to Perry's films/ plays. To them, they don't care if the timing is terrible or if the story is predictable or that he keeps finding the most horrid wigs for the male actors. His stories are something that they can see themselves in. I appreciate what he's doing. His popularity has more to do with his faith than anything. As Christians we believe that there isn't anyone on this earth that can make or break us because promotion comes from above. As we bless Him, He blesses us. Anyway, there's so much crap being peddled in Hollywood and he's not near the worst of it. House of Payne is horribly cringeworthy though. Shake....shake, shake, shake. | |
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Hello all, I’m so sorry I didn’t write right after the movie opened but I needed to take a minute and catch my breath. I gotta tell you, a press tour can be really rough, especially dealing with a lot of people who don’t get it, and don’t get what I’m doing here. I refuse to deal in the negative though--I refuse. So, let’s look at the real deal and let me tell you what kind of blessing this is. Out of all of the people who wrote in saying that they were given tickets to the wrong movie and had to argue to get them to reprint tickets to preys; out of all of the movies that opened this past weekend with 800 to 1,000 more screens then I had; out of all of the critics who said how awful the movie is, out of all the bootleg copies on the streets; out of all of my people in Texas dealing with the devastation of the hurricane; out of all that is going on in this economy; out of all the foolishness I’ve been dealing with since the movie opened; YOU STILL WENT, YOU STILL MADE “PREYS” NUMBER 2, YOU STILL CROWDED INTO THE SAME THEATERS, AND I THANK GOD FOR YOU! It is my prayer that not only did the movie make you laugh and move you to want to enjoy every day on this earth but it is also my prayer that every dime you’ve spent to invest in me that it comes back to you one million fold. Thank you. I wrote this movie because I was going through some things, I had family members preying on me. I had been betrayed. People that I have done more for then than they have done to help themselves broke my heart and I was so hurt by how ugly people could be. I was at a place where I didn’t trust anybody, I thought everybody was after something, and I thought nobody was sincere. I was becoming cynical and very unhappy. Lots of people look at the outside and think all is well, but sometimes it isn’t. So, I started writing this movie after I heard a song called I HOPE YOU DANCE. I had Gladys Knight re-record it for the end of the movie. You should hear it. It talks about no matter what happens, just dance. Just dance. All of this to say to you, life is a gift and a blessing. Don’t let people change you. No matter what happens be wiser the next time. But, don’t let it change you. There may be people in your life that have hurt you, but don’t make the next person who has the best intentions come along and you run them away because you think they’re going to do what the last person did to you. Don’t be afraid. In life you can’t live in fear of what people will say or do. If you lose love or a friend, then maybe you never had it. THE FAMILY THAT PREYS is still in theaters. If you haven’t seen it, you still can. And for all of you who did and LOVED it and made no bones about telling me that its my best movie yet. I read it and I heard it. You really encourage me to keep going no matter what anyone says. I write for you and only you. God Bless and thanks again, T.P. To respond to this message, please go to http://www.tylerperry.com/messageboard | |
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okay...maybe he's no spike lee...but I think his strength is actually in his ordinaryness--it actually kinda makes him unique. Who else is going around making a killing, and pulling big names outta their ass with his style? Even if you question his talent, you gotta admit, he's smart to have gotten where he has.
I haven't seen most of his movies, but a couple of his plays had me in stitches. Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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I gave up on him after Daddy's Little Girls, but Why Did I Get Married was good. The play to that was good too. He definitely appeals to the Evangelical Blacks. These people were the only ones supporting his plays and he is loyal to them. His material is very simplistic, like his audience. No offense, but I think some of his material is insulting to the race, but at least it's not about selling drugs and gang bangin' Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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MuthaFunka said: Well, he's appealing to an underrepresented crowd - The Christian Black..
Big co-sign on this MuthaFunka, that's the first thing I think when Tyler's name comes up because that's the crowd who really loves his work most from what I've seen. | |
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