I wouldn't tell on them. If they cheat all of the time it will come back to haunt them later. I can't remember what you said you are going to school for. I thought it was nursing or something. If that is the case, these are probably the same people who won't be passing their nursing board exams after graduation. You will have the last laugh. You don't want to create enemies in the classroom. If you are going into a professional school, often times you will have to spend a lot of time with these same individuals for a few years or so. Besides when your in college networking is the key to getting a good job. It's not always what you know, but who you know in this world to get ahead.

Just a tip from "The Starman".

Imago said:

That is a great post.

If I were gay, I would totally like you.

FunkMistress said:

I can see where you are coming from, but I'm not playing University Avenger here. I'm not planning on getting them kicked out of school. I know for a fact these people don't have families they're caring for. It doesn't matter anyway. It's not going to go any further.

I do think though that people can make excuses and justifications for their behavior until the end of time, but at some point you have to just accept your consequences in life. I know it's a fine line and we all draw our line in different places.

jaimestarr79 said:

Good advice.

Yep. It's nursing.

hokie said:

How do you know that for a fact? I'm only trying to help you see that you don't always know, even when you think you do. People care for aging parents, grandparents, etc., even those people who look like deadbeats in your eyes. You might be surprised.

I'm not even talking specifically about your cheaters, because I know nothing about them. Just trying to offer a wider perspective.

FunkMistress said:

True. I'm not mad at you.

It always helps to hear what others say. That's why I asked the question. I guess people not being honest is a pet peeve and although I know it's an impossible dream it would be nice if people weren't such liars.

For example, I have had to miss 2 of the lab sessions because of being sick myself and having sick kids to care for. I just accepted that that would cause me to miss that info and that my lab book would be incomplete for those sessions. I didn't try to weasel out of my responsibilities because I had things happen. I just accepted that my grade would be marked off because of it. I don't want special favors. If I had some major thing happen like a death or whatever then yeah, I'd probably go to him and ask if I could somehow make up the work. But, for little things then I just deal with it as part of life happening. I have school, kids and work. I'm on my own. I know that there isn't enough time in the day for me to have enough time for everything. Since my kids come first I know that I may not get perfect grades like I want. I settle for "good enough".

Yes. I am a total perfectionist at heart when it comes to school.

hokie said:

Worry about Hokie.

hokie said:

I don't think you are a nerd! In the end Jill, you have to do what you think is right. All of us can write things down for days on what we would do. In the end hun, it's all up to you! I think you already know what you should do.

what goes around comes around, as long as you didn't give them any answers or they cheated off of you, I would let the universe take care of it. It will all work out in the end.

just ignore it, sometimes these things will turn on you, and you're the innocent one! just let them get caught on their own, it will happen in time.

I did note the girl next to me using my paper. I just moved my arm across it... didn't want the same answers coming up. She isn't what i would classify as a cheater on the whole... just taken on too much i think.

I see it in the anatomy tests a lot. I think its just a shit load of material and people get a bit boggled. To make it work for me I have a study group with a few girls and our scores are almost always the same.

Live n let live. Not my problem ... to much mental energy for me.

...well, sorta like they have said. cheating is all a part of the process. sometimes you have to finagle your way out of bad grade with the PA's, you gotta avoid paying a parking fine by lying or flirting with the cops. You add some extra expenses for a bigger financial aid payment. shit, you partied instead of studying so you need help with a few answers! ! ! ! ! !




on the other hand, if you don't like them, they're a couple of jerks. then, use discretion, cause what goes around.....

Don't talk.

It's the teachers responsibility to catch cheating students.
I'm a teacher myself and I would never go on what one of my students told me.

If the teachers actions are based only on what a student says, I would report the teacher to the Honor Council.

Jochem said:

Interesting perspective. Thanks. I am not saying anything. Like others here have said it's not worth my mental energy even though it frustrated me at the time.

I don't think the teacher would automatically "convict" (for lack of a better term) the students. I think if names were given there would be an investigation then the student would go before the honor council.

I originally asked this question because my teacher "reminded" me of my responsibility as a student to go to the honor council if I wanted to. Some schools (maybe all?) are like that. Not only is the student supposed to be honest, but you're supposed to let the honor council know if someone isn't. Don't know if that's right or not, but that's the policy.

hokie said:

Dude, I am a square and I would have told, too. I work too fucking hard for my A's. The universe is fucked up because of the stuff we let people get away with.

hokie said:

In that case, I would talk, so they can start an investigation.
Or they can pay more attention to them next time.

B.t.w.: The mental energy required is negligible...

typo edit
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JerseyKRS said:

I'm with u

hokie said:

I bullshit a lot , but actually hokie, if they are gonna disregard everyone else and be selfish about the situation, not even realizing who they may be hurting...literally, in the process of them being ass wipes, then yeah, I would report the shyt out of them.

I have a probelm with peole who play by their own set of rules, especially if they are in a settin where they can be close to me and i can smell the stench of their arrogance.

some will cheat, some won't let cha, others act like they just don't know.
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DanceWme said:

LMAO

.... jeez, i can see where this is gonna try and go...


where is my entourage! ! ! ! ! ! !


Disband the DL, NOW! ! !

JerseyKRS said:

and when did your thug guinnea ass become deep?

Here are my reasons why you shouldn't:

- If anyone will find out you did it, or even suspect that it was you, you'll have a harder time in class. They will try to make your life harder and maybe even set you up for something.

- Cheating might be easy for them now, but in real life, at work, they won't have anyone to cheat from. Once they go on their own, they will have to depend on themselves, and they will probably fail. so what might look unfair now, will bite them back at one point in life.

- You have so many worries in your life right now. Why get involved in another worry? Concentrate on succeeding. On yourself. These people are not part of your life. they are just around you for a couple of hours a week for this class, but that's it. Just stay away from them and do you best to get good grades.

THEY ARE NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE.


Last but not least - WTF is with your new name? Did you run out of replies? That should tell you that you are spending too much time here, and need to shift some of it to writing me love letters and taking pictures of yourself doing a head stand while naked and singing nursery rhymes.

ArielB said:

Thanks honey, but you could have just told me all this when we talk later.

And, for the last time! I'm not standing on my head naked.

hokie said:

Can't we at least talk about this?

ArielB said:

you need to do my quiz, you will ace it

ZombieKitten said:

Where is it?

ArielB said:

http://www02.quizyourfrie...1313&a=1&&

I'd call them out.

generally, yes.


if the professor didn't say anything. then what is the point???
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