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2the9s

Where's Iraq?

http://www.cnn.com/2002/E...index.html

Global goofs: U.S. youth can't find Iraq

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 Posted: 5:49 PM EST (2249 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Young Americans may soon have to fight a war in Iraq, but most of them can't even find that country on a map, the National Geographic Society said Wednesday.

The society survey found that only about one in seven -- 13 percent -- of Americans between the age of 18 and 24, the prime age for military warriors, could find Iraq. The score was the same for Iran, an Iraqi neighbor.

Although the majority, 58 percent, of the young Americans surveyed knew that the Taliban and al Qaeda were based in Afghanistan, only 17 percent could find that country on a world map. A U.S.-led force attacked the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan in October 2001, and President Bush has said he is prepared to use force to rid Iraq of any chemical, nuclear or biological weapons programs.

The survey asked 56 geographic and current events questions of young people in nine countries and scored the results with traditional grades. The surveyed Americans got a "D," with an average of 23 correct answers. Mexico ranked last with an average score of 21, just three points from a failing grade.

Topping the scoring was Sweden, with an average of 40, followed by Germany and Italy, each with 38. None of the countries got an "A," which required average scores of 42 correct answers or better on the 56 questions.

"Someone once said that war is God's way of teaching geography, but today, apparently war or even the threat of war cannot adequately teach geography," John Fahey, president of the National Geographic Society, said. "More American young people can tell you where an island that the Survivor TV series came from is located than can identify Afghanistan or Iraq. Ironically a TV show seems more real or at least more meaningful interesting or relevant then reality."

National Geographic is convening an international panel of policy makers and business and media leaders to find ways to improve geographic education and to encourage interest in world affairs, the society said.

Other findings from the survey:
• Thirty-four percent of the young Americans knew that the island used on last season's "Survivor" show was located in the South Pacific, but only 30 percent could locate the state of New Jersey on a map. The "Survivor" show's location was the Marquesas Islands in the eastern South Pacific.

• When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the United States, only California and Texas could be located by a large majority of those surveyed. Both states were correctly located by 89 percent of the participants. Only 51 percent could find New York, the nation's third most populous state.

• On a world map, Americans could find on average only seven of 16 countries in the quiz. Only 89 percent of the Americans surveyed could find their own country on the map.

• In the world map test, Swedes could find an average of 13 of the 16 countries. Germans and Italians were next, with an average of 12 each.

• Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map the Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, three in 10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific Ocean.

• Although 81 percent of the surveyed Americans knew that the Middle East is the Earth's largest oil exporter, only 24 percent could find Saudi Arabia on the map.

The international survey was conducted for the National Geographic by RoperASW. The results are based on face-to-face interviews with at least 300 men and women aged 18 to 24 in Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, Britain and the United States.

The questionnaires were in the local language, but the content was universally the same.


confused

I blame the teachers.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 20 16:03:24 PST 2002 by 2the9s]
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Reply #1 posted 11/20/02 4:05pm

SexLovely

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Wheres Iraq eh?? Well...go on vacation 2 the middle east and wave to all the locals...

...if they wave back using only their wrist U no your in Iraq. Or near it anyway...


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Reply #2 posted 11/20/02 4:06pm

SuperiorTe

2the9s said:

http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/20/geography.quiz/index.html

Global goofs: U.S. youth can't find Iraq

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 Posted: 5:49 PM EST (2249 GMT)


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Young Americans may soon have to fight a war in Iraq, but most of them can't even find that country on a map, the National Geographic Society said Wednesday.

The society survey found that only about one in seven -- 13 percent -- of Americans between the age of 18 and 24, the prime age for military warriors, could find Iraq. The score was the same for Iran, an Iraqi neighbor.

Although the majority, 58 percent, of the young Americans surveyed knew that the Taliban and al Qaeda were based in Afghanistan, only 17 percent could find that country on a world map. A U.S.-led force attacked the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan in October 2001, and President Bush has said he is prepared to use force to rid Iraq of any chemical, nuclear or biological weapons programs.

The survey asked 56 geographic and current events questions of young people in nine countries and scored the results with traditional grades. The surveyed Americans got a "D," with an average of 23 correct answers. Mexico ranked last with an average score of 21, just three points from a failing grade.

Topping the scoring was Sweden, with an average of 40, followed by Germany and Italy, each with 38. None of the countries got an "A," which required average scores of 42 correct answers or better on the 56 questions.

"Someone once said that war is God's way of teaching geography, but today, apparently war or even the threat of war cannot adequately teach geography," John Fahey, president of the National Geographic Society, said. "More American young people can tell you where an island that the Survivor TV series came from is located than can identify Afghanistan or Iraq. Ironically a TV show seems more real or at least more meaningful interesting or relevant then reality."

National Geographic is convening an international panel of policy makers and business and media leaders to find ways to improve geographic education and to encourage interest in world affairs, the society said.

Other findings from the survey:
• Thirty-four percent of the young Americans knew that the island used on last season's "Survivor" show was located in the South Pacific, but only 30 percent could locate the state of New Jersey on a map. The "Survivor" show's location was the Marquesas Islands in the eastern South Pacific.

• When asked to find 10 specific states on a map of the United States, only California and Texas could be located by a large majority of those surveyed. Both states were correctly located by 89 percent of the participants. Only 51 percent could find New York, the nation's third most populous state.

• On a world map, Americans could find on average only seven of 16 countries in the quiz. Only 89 percent of the Americans surveyed could find their own country on the map.

• In the world map test, Swedes could find an average of 13 of the 16 countries. Germans and Italians were next, with an average of 12 each.

• Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map the Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, three in 10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific Ocean.

• Although 81 percent of the surveyed Americans knew that the Middle East is the Earth's largest oil exporter, only 24 percent could find Saudi Arabia on the map.

The international survey was conducted for the National Geographic by RoperASW. The results are based on face-to-face interviews with at least 300 men and women aged 18 to 24 in Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, Britain and the United States.

The questionnaires were in the local language, but the content was universally the same.


confused

I blame the teachers.
[This message was edited Wed Nov 20 16:03:24 PST 2002 by 2the9s]



OH

MY

GOD.

Honestly, I'm very thankful I was born in England and not in the US. The education must be so shit.
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Reply #3 posted 11/20/02 4:52pm

Lleena

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Wasn't President Bush asked some similar questions before he was elected and he didn't have a clue.
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Reply #4 posted 11/20/02 4:58pm

XxAxX

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i blame television, a two-working-parent society, and the ruthless media
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Reply #5 posted 11/20/02 4:58pm

XxAxX

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then again, maybe i blame 2the9s. after all he's the blighter started this thread sad
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Reply #6 posted 11/20/02 6:03pm

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"The society survey found that only about one in seven -- 13 percent -- of Americans between the age of 18 and 24, the prime age for military warriors, could find Iraq. The score was the same for Iran, an Iraqi neighbor. "

Youths in Iran don't know where Iraq is either? omfg

lol
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Reply #7 posted 11/20/02 6:55pm

IsayWhatever

2the9s said:[quote]http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/20/geography.quiz/index.html

Global goofs: U.S. youth can't find Iraq

Wednesday, November 20, 2002 Posted: 5:49 PM EST (2249 GMT)



National Geographic is convening an international panel of policy makers and business and media leaders to find ways to improve geographic education and to encourage interest in world affairs, the society said.





what the hell does this mean? I say whatever!
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Reply #8 posted 11/20/02 6:57pm

bkw

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This is so sad.
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #9 posted 11/20/02 7:01pm

Se7en

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When the "war on terror" started last year, I went out and bought a small world atlas.

I could find Iraq easily, but I had no clue where some of the smaller countries were . . .

Sad but true: that area of the world is not really covered in our school systems . . . they mostly cover Europe.
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Reply #10 posted 11/20/02 8:55pm

2the9s

I thought soulpower would be all over this thread like Jack Ruby at Roswell. confused
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Reply #11 posted 11/20/02 10:51pm

soulpower

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2the9s said:

I thought soulpower would be all over this thread like Jack Ruby at Roswell. confused


Here I am! Not much to add really, the thread speaks for itself. Or wait, maybe some goodies from my university days in America:

I was frequently asked (seriously):

- if Hitler was still alive
- How long it takes to drive from the states to germany by car
- if we had runing water, fridges, etc.
- if we still had concentration camps
- if we drink beer in the mornings
- if we all live in wooden shacks in the mountains
- if the Mercedes Benz was built for America (since we cant drive that fast in the Mountains eek

Even funnier was my experience was to meet a 23 years old girl in the campus cafeteria studying latin. I asked her if she needed some help, she said yes, and we started to talk. I told her I studied latin for 7 years at high school in Germany, but I kinda regret it because it is a dead language. She replied: "What do you mean, dead language?" It came out that she had taken latin since two years because she figured it was the language they speak in latin america and he dream was to live in chile or argentina. I think she was bombed, cuz I didnt see her again. lol
"Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" peace
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Reply #12 posted 11/20/02 10:53pm

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It wouldnt surprise me if US fighter pilots wont find Iraq either and "accidentely" drop some bombs on Iran (another member of the Axis of the Evil) lol
"Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" peace
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Reply #13 posted 11/20/02 10:55pm

Moonbeam

This is disgusting. Only 51% could locate NEW YORK? What egocentric people Americans are. Only 13% could locate Iraq? That's one out of eight. That is PITIFUL!
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Reply #14 posted 11/20/02 10:59pm

Natsume

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2the9s couldn't find his own ass with his own hands.
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #15 posted 11/21/02 1:48am

Thecherryloon

soulpower said:

It wouldnt surprise me if US fighter pilots wont find Iraq either and "accidentely" drop some bombs on Iran (another member of the Axis of the Evil) lol


Or their own allies! they seem to make a habit of doing that.
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