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Thread started 10/07/08 11:05am

jaimestarr79

Question about cable tv switching from analog to Digital in 2009?

In feb 2009 when analog cable switches to Digital, will the signal be HDtv? I've asked the cable company and they can't even answer my question. Here in the states you have to have a special HDtv box to get an HD signal. Even with a HDtv not all channels are 1080p. Will the Digital signal be all 1080p?
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Reply #1 posted 10/07/08 11:07am

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confuse
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Reply #2 posted 10/07/08 11:08am

DanceWme

U have to have the 550CZ tube in ur television in order to get signal.
If u dont have the 550CZ tube, than u may want to consider getting the glass cube RZ1 for ur cable box.

It will work lovely!
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Reply #3 posted 10/07/08 11:26am

horatio

understand that images/videos are recorded in different formats/aspect ratios.

the image/video varies depending on what the tv stations decide to broadcast it in and/or the format that the video was recorded in. it could be HD, letter box, pillar box, 1080p/i, 720p/i etc
it will always and for ever be about how the image was orginally recorded.
As we continue on with the new format of 1080 p more things will become available in 1080, but its unlikely that older reruns of shows and other films will ever be 1080.


NONE of this has anything to do with the switch over.

the switch over is only to do with how these images are being broadcast.

the switch over is from ANALOG to DIGITAL. that all you need to know.

older standard TV's have ANALOG TUNERS in them. When they TV stations switch to DIGITAL the analog tuners will no longer have a signal to recieve as it will be cut off.

it has nothing to do with it being broadcast in 1080, in fact the only thing you can watch that is 1080 is newly purchased blu ray disks. its has been illegal for tv stations to broadcast in 1080.

so lets review:

you will only get 1080 on a movie or program if it has been filmed in that manner, and at that it will depend on if the TV station has chosen to broadcast it in that format or go with a lesser quality. biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 10/07/08 11:29am

horatio

horatio said:

understand that images/videos are recorded in different formats/aspect ratios.

the image/video varies depending on what the tv stations decide to broadcast it in and/or the format that the video was recorded in. it could be HD, letter box, pillar box, 1080p/i, 720p/i etc
it will always and for ever be about how the image was orginally recorded.
As we continue on with the new format of 1080 p more things will become available in 1080, but its unlikely that older reruns of shows and other films will ever be 1080.


NONE of this has anything to do with the switch over.

the switch over is only to do with how these images are being broadcast.

the switch over is from ANALOG to DIGITAL. that all you need to know.

older standard TV's have ANALOG TUNERS in them. When they TV stations switch to DIGITAL the analog tuners will no longer have a signal to recieve as it will be cut off.

it has nothing to do with it being broadcast in 1080, in fact the only thing you can watch that is 1080 is newly purchased blu ray disks. its has been illegal for tv stations to broadcast in 1080.

so lets review:

you will only get 1080 on a movie or program if it has been filmed in that manner, and at that it will depend on if the TV station has chosen to broadcast it in that format or go with a lesser quality. biggrin



also say programs like Entertainment Tonight or your local news, another factor is if they have upgraded their cameras to 1080 or if they are still using thier old equipment broadcast on a digital signal.

its just the digital signal that is the change. some have and others it will take a while for them to switch over to 1080 cameras as they can afford them.
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Reply #5 posted 10/07/08 11:31am

DanceWme

DanceWme said:

U have to have the 550CZ tube in ur television in order to get signal.
If u dont have the 550CZ tube, than u may want to consider getting the glass cube RZ1 for ur cable box.

It will work lovely!

ok im busted lol

i was making shit up
horatio blew my spot
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Reply #6 posted 10/07/08 11:33am

jaimestarr79

My thing is with all of this hype they try to trick people into buying new tv's. They say without that coverter box you can't watch TV unless you have cable. I don't know anywhere where you can get reception with just an plain antenna anymore? Just about everyone has either satellite tv or cable now a days. Otherwise your probably lucky to get one channel if any at all with just rabbit ears on your tv.
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Reply #7 posted 10/07/08 11:52am

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jaimestarr79 said:

My thing is with all of this hype they try to trick people into buying new tv's. They say without that coverter box you can't watch TV unless you have cable. I don't know anywhere where you can get reception with just an plain antenna anymore? Just about everyone has either satellite tv or cable now a days. Otherwise your probably lucky to get one channel if any at all with just rabbit ears on your tv.


I have rabbit ears and am lucky enough to live in a neighborhood to get pretty good reception on all of my local channels. If you count the kooky religious channels and some home shopping channel, I get about 13 in all.
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Reply #8 posted 10/07/08 11:54am

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horatio said:

understand that images/videos are recorded in different formats/aspect ratios.

the image/video varies depending on what the tv stations decide to broadcast it in and/or the format that the video was recorded in. it could be HD, letter box, pillar box, 1080p/i, 720p/i etc
it will always and for ever be about how the image was orginally recorded.
As we continue on with the new format of 1080 p more things will become available in 1080, but its unlikely that older reruns of shows and other films will ever be 1080.


NONE of this has anything to do with the switch over.

the switch over is only to do with how these images are being broadcast.

the switch over is from ANALOG to DIGITAL. that all you need to know.

older standard TV's have ANALOG TUNERS in them. When they TV stations switch to DIGITAL the analog tuners will no longer have a signal to recieve as it will be cut off.

it has nothing to do with it being broadcast in 1080, in fact the only thing you can watch that is 1080 is newly purchased blu ray disks. its has been illegal for tv stations to broadcast in 1080.

so lets review:

you will only get 1080 on a movie or program if it has been filmed in that manner, and at that it will depend on if the TV station has chosen to broadcast it in that format or go with a lesser quality. biggrin


there's no 1080p broadcast... there's a lot of 1080i, that's all I watch.
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Reply #9 posted 10/07/08 11:58am

horatio

CarrieMpls said:

jaimestarr79 said:

My thing is with all of this hype they try to trick people into buying new tv's. They say without that coverter box you can't watch TV unless you have cable. I don't know anywhere where you can get reception with just an plain antenna anymore? Just about everyone has either satellite tv or cable now a days. Otherwise your probably lucky to get one channel if any at all with just rabbit ears on your tv.


I have rabbit ears and am lucky enough to live in a neighborhood to get pretty good reception on all of my local channels. If you count the kooky religious channels and some home shopping channel, I get about 13 in all.



OMG those religious channels can be a riot!!
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Reply #10 posted 10/07/08 12:01pm

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also... all pro movies are shot at relative 1080p or higher (film or digital). Even an old B&W movie from the 30's is still arguably more detailed than 1080p as long as it was shot on 35mm film!

That's why HD net and such show old movies and they blow you away in HD.

* 350×240 (260 lines): Video CD
* 330×480 (250 lines): Umatic, Betamax, VHS, Video8
* 400×480 (300 lines): Super Betamax, Betacam (pro)
* 440×480 (330 lines): analog broadcast
* 560×480 (420 lines): LaserDisc, Super VHS, Hi8
* 670×480 (500 lines): Enhanced Definition Betamax
* Digital:
o 720×480 (520 lines): D-VHS, DVD, miniDV, Digital8, Digital Betacam (
o 720×480 (400 lines): Widescreen DVD (anamorphic)
o 1280×720 (720 lines): D-VHS, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDV (miniDV)
o 1440×1080 (810 lines): HDV (miniDV)
o 1920×1080 (1080 lines): D-VHS, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDCAM SR (pro)
o 10,000×7000 (7000 lines): IMAX, IMAX HD, OMNIMAX
* Film:
o 35 mm film is scanned for release on DVD at 1080 or 2000 lines as of 2005.
o 35 mm original camera negative motion picture film can resolve up to 6,000 lines.
o 35 mm projection positive motion picture film has about 2,000 lines which results from the analog printing from the camera negative of an interpositive, and possibly an internegative, then a projection positive.
o Sequences from newer films are scanned at 2,000, 4,000 or even 8,000 columns (line measured the other directions), called 2K, 4K and 8K, for quality visual effects editing on computers.
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Reply #11 posted 10/07/08 12:09pm

horatio

ufoclub said:

also... all pro movies are shot at relative 1080p or higher (film or digital). Even an old B&W movie from the 30's is still arguably more detailed than 1080p as long as it was shot on 35mm film!

That's why HD net and such show old movies and they blow you away in HD.

* 350×240 (260 lines): Video CD
* 330×480 (250 lines): Umatic, Betamax, VHS, Video8
* 400×480 (300 lines): Super Betamax, Betacam (pro)
* 440×480 (330 lines): analog broadcast
* 560×480 (420 lines): LaserDisc, Super VHS, Hi8
* 670×480 (500 lines): Enhanced Definition Betamax
* Digital:
o 720×480 (520 lines): D-VHS, DVD, miniDV, Digital8, Digital Betacam (
o 720×480 (400 lines): Widescreen DVD (anamorphic)
o 1280×720 (720 lines): D-VHS, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDV (miniDV)
o 1440×1080 (810 lines): HDV (miniDV)
o 1920×1080 (1080 lines): D-VHS, HD DVD, Blu-ray, HDCAM SR (pro)
o 10,000×7000 (7000 lines): IMAX, IMAX HD, OMNIMAX
* Film:
o 35 mm film is scanned for release on DVD at 1080 or 2000 lines as of 2005.
o 35 mm original camera negative motion picture film can resolve up to 6,000 lines.
o 35 mm projection positive motion picture film has about 2,000 lines which results from the analog printing from the camera negative of an interpositive, and possibly an internegative, then a projection positive.
o Sequences from newer films are scanned at 2,000, 4,000 or even 8,000 columns (line measured the other directions), called 2K, 4K and 8K, for quality visual effects editing on computers.


thanks, i was expecting you.

but to answer the question, the digital switch does NOT mean that everything will be broadcast in in 1080p or i
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Reply #12 posted 10/07/08 12:31pm

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horatio said:

thanks, i was expecting you.

but to answer the question, the digital switch does NOT mean that everything will be broadcast in in 1080p or i[/quote]

that's true... for now... I hope everything goes 1080 soon, once you go 1080 for even your news... you can't go back...
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