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Thread started 10/05/08 8:50pm

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Will you buy the NEW Nintendo DS next yr.

I was gonna get a DS for x-mas , but not sure if i should wait for the new version available in canada next spring. confused

any pros & cons to the new one, dont know too much about it except there IS
a camera...no slot for GBG`s..& lower battery life.

any advice...
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Reply #1 posted 10/05/08 8:55pm

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They're adding things that most wireless devices already have. It seems like fun, and I'm sure the wireless infrastructure and culture in Japan will make the add-on camera and SD slot a must have over there, but over here I would guess you already have those things on a wireless device, so I would be fine with the current version.

BTW it is the DSi.
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Reply #2 posted 10/05/08 9:13pm

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I believe both screens on the DSi will be touch screens. I'm wondering when developers will begin taking advantage of this and what happens to DS owners when they do.

I'll hold onto my DS Lite as long as I can, but I'm sure I'll upgrade eventually. Just like the iPod, I started way back with the first one and I've upgraded many times since then.
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Reply #3 posted 10/05/08 9:43pm

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Here's some specs and Nintendo's Iwata's remarks from the unveiling. As Alexa said, I have also heard rumors of dual touch screens, but haven't seen anything official yet. The use of the terms "Display" and "Screen" separately in the specs leads me to think only 1 is touch.

• Size of Liquid Crystal Display
Nintendo DSi: 3.25 inches
Nintendo DS Lite: 3 inches

• Liquid Crystal Screen
Nintendo DSi: Possible to display 260,000 colors
Nintendo DS Lite: Possible to display 260,000 colors

• Portable Size
Nintendo DSi: Width 137mm, Length 74.9mm, Thickness 18.9mm (touch pen is approx. 92mm in length)
Nintendo DS Lite: Width 133mm, Length 73.9mm, Thickness 21.5mm (touch pen is approx. 87.5mm in length)

• Power Supply
Nintendo DSi: AC adaptor for Nintendo DSi
Nintendo DS Lite: AC adaptor for DS Lite

• Weight
Nintendo DSi: Approx. 214g (with touch pen)
Nintendo DS Lite: Approx. 218g (with touch pen, Game Boy Advance cover)

• Charging Time
Nintendo DSi: Approx. 2 hours and 30 minutes
Nintendo DS Lite: Approx. 3 hours

• Battery Life
Nintendo DSi: The lowest brightness (9-14 hrs), low brightness (8-12 hours), medium brightness (6-9 hours), high brightness (4-6 hours), highest brightness(3-4 hours)
Nintendo DS Lite: The lowest brightness (15-19 hrs), low brightness (10-15 hours), high brightness (7-11 hours), highest brightness(5-8 hours)

• Software
Nintendo DSi: Software for Nintendo DS, Software for Nintendo DSi.
Nintendo DS Lite: Software for Nintendo DS, Software for Game Boy Advance

• Input-Output
Nintendo DSi: DS card slot, SD memory card slot, AC adaptor connection, stereo headphone/mic jack
Nintendo DS Lite: DS card slot, Game Boy Advance cartridge slot, AC adaptor connection, stereo headphone/mic jack


Iwata said:


This is why we now introduce you to Nintendo DSi as the new member to Nintendo DS platform.
For Nintendo DSi, naturally, we have added a number of new functions. Also, we have made some enhancements on the existing DS by listening to our consumers voices. I will explain about the latter point first.
First of all, so we can further improve the portable aspect that you can bring DS anywhere with you, we were challenged to make it as thin as possible without sacrificing its durability. As the result, DSi is 2.6mm or about 12% thinner than DS Lite. As the consequence of this effort, we have removed the slot for GameBoy Advance software. Even after the launch of Nintendo DSi, we will continue the sale of DS Lite as long as consumer demand continues. We will continue offering Nintendo DS Lite for those who enjoy playing GameBoy Advance software as well.

Next, we have tried to comply with the demands for the bigger screens. Since DS has two screens, and the weight of LCD naturally increases as we increase its size, we were challenged to adopt larger LCDs while maintaining the weight of Nintendo DS Lite. As the result, we have made little less than 8% increase over the current 3.00inch LCD to make it 3.25 inches. In terms of the dimension, approximately 17% increase was realized per screen.
We have also improved both the speaker volume and sound quality. They may sound unspectacular, but we recon that they are meaningful improvements.

Among the new features, we have incorporated a camera function and an audio player function. You might have heard about this already through some media reports. And as you listen to me, you might share the impression that since many of today's cell phones already incorporate similar camera and audio player functions, this news does not sound Nintendo-esque nor does it seem to play any significant role in further expanding DS.
While these functions for cell phones are offered as extra utility tools, we would like to propose with DSi the entertainment of playing with and enjoying visuals and sounds by using these functions in more proactive and fun ways in your daily activities. The Nintendo DSi will be a tool to enrich each of our daily lives.

For cell phones and digital cameras, manufacturers have been increasing the number of pixels in order to appeal to consumers. However, we have taken almost the opposite approach. We cannot boast about the resolution as the camera for DSi has the 300,000 pixels resolution.

On the other hand, the "DSi Camera" software included in DSi, of course, can take pictures and store them, but there are 11 types of special camera lenses included. This means DSi can take pictures by utilizing a variety of special effects on real time basis, change the whole picture to black and white images, color the portions you touch or exchange the existing color with new one on the area you touch, make a composite picture using preinstalled frames or make the frames for yourselves, draw variety of graffiti on the pictures, use the technology to recognize human faces and put glasses and mustaches on them, combine two people's faces with different degrees of one's features, and confirm to what degree two faces are resembling by utilizing face recognition engine. These functions can be enjoyed with the unique Nintendo user interfaces that you are familiar with.

In other words, for DSi, we have tried to use existing camera functions fully for the entertainment purpose in unique ways, by taking advantage of unique double-screen and touch-panel features of DS.

Nintendo would like to enhance your lifestyle in ways that enable you to enjoy playing with your photographs and bringing them with you wherever you go. The pictures will be automatically sorted by the dates they were taken.
As you can see, Nintendo DSi can function as a photo diary and can also be a photo stand to run a photo slide show.

For a number of small children, Nintendo DSi will be their very first camera. For the Japanese female junior and high-school students, DSi can be a digital photo notebook which contains the stamp-sized face seals that they can take with them when hanging out with their friends. It can also be a tool for college students and young-adults to have more fun at parties. For middle-aged and senior citizens, it may become a photo diary to keep pictures of their grandchildren and hobbies.

Another new function, "DSi Sound" audio player, is not meant to be an ordinary audio playback mechanism. Since it is something Nintendo offers, we have aimed to design it so that people can "enjoy playing with sounds."
Some typical functions include one that entables the user to change the pitch and the speed separately by using the touch screen

As you can see, you can freely change the speed by sliding the touch-pen vertically and adjust the pitch with the horizontal move.

The ability to be able to freely manipulate the audio pitch and the speed can expand how the audio player can be used in more practical way as well. You can fast-forward the recorded PodCast to economize the time. When you use the repeat-run function with touch-pen ability, it becomes easier to copy the music, to play a musical instrument or to practice foreign languages.

Also, since Nintendo DSi has a microphone, we are incorporating the DSi Sound function to make use of it. I believe Nintendo DSi can be viewed as a toy with music, that also be played with. I'm sure some of us will enjoy using DSi Sound to create a fun performance during a party.

Other than these, there are a variety of features such as the function to play back sounds with special effects and the reverse-run ability as well as an instrumental play back or a sort of Karaoke function which can erase the vocal data which are programmed to be generated at the center of two speakers.

An SD memory card can be inserted into DSi and can be used for both the camera and audio player functions.
To make use of Nintendo DSi Sound, you will need to store sound data on an SD card on the AAC format. As for the Nintendo DSi camera, if you have stored the pictures on an SD memory card, you can view them on Wii by using its Wii Photo Channel.

I have just stated that we are aiming to achieve "one DS per person" as the ultimate ownership goal for this video game machine.
To make DSi exclusive to you, or to make it "MyDS," Nintendo DSi has embedded internal memory just like Wii.
After storing the data there, you can choose to activate this data from the menu screen.

The "DSi Camera" and the "DSi Sound" will be included in this internal memory when you purchase DSi.
To make it truly "your own DS," you can download and store new software through "DSi Shop."

The software you download will be kept in an empty box on the screen you are watching now. It should be easier to understand this if I say that this is similar to Wii Shopping Channel mechanism.
With these functionalities, DSi owners will be able to select and incorporate the software they would like to enjoy and carry around with them on their own DSi. For the software publishers, a new business opportunity can be created by the software download sales.

As the means to settle the charges for software being downloaded to Wii console, we have been offering a prepaid card called Wii Points Prepaid Card. Now, we would like to rename it to "Nintendo Points Prepaid Card."
Also, Wii Points Prepaid Numbers that are sold at convenience stores or by cell phones in Japan wil be renamed to "Nintendo Points Prepaid Numbers."

When you charge Nintendo Points to Wii console, it will be used as "Wii Points." When you charge it to DSi, it will be used as "DSi Points."

As the very first software title to be offered through "DSi Shop," Nintendo will start distributing "DSi Browser" free of charge simultaneously with the launch of DSi.

The "DSi Browser" is an internet browser, co-developed by Opera and Nintendo and comprehensively tuned exclusively for Nintendo DSi.

This tuning made the browser faster, and now that it can be incorporated into the device, the utility aspect has been significantly enhanced.

Furthermore, when we enabled faster communications for DSi Browser and DSi Shop, we also achieved faster WiFi communications for Nintendo DSi. When you use the WiFi function of existing Nintendo DS software, the speed does not increase. However, for the software specifically made for Nintendo DSi, it is possible to realize faster communications.

As the 2nd software to be downloaded free of charge through "DSi Shop", we will launch "Moving Notepad" this year.

"Moving Notepad" enables users to create hand-written memos. Of course, I am not talking about an ordinary notepad. For example, you can create cutoff animations, and this cutoff animation can talk.
You create this "talking cutoff animation" by utilizing the microphone to record voices .

Even after watching this footage, many may still say, "forget about cutoff animations as I cannot draw a picture." I can relate to you, but, ...

For some people like me, we will enjoy using the camera to create pictures. So, even if we cannot draw pictures, we can still create unique movie works.
We are also planning to provide the framework so you can exchange your cutoff animations with your friends. We are not yet ready to provide all of the details of this feature but we expect to be able to do so in the near future.

And, at the end of this year, we will begin offering the download sales service of "Nintendo DSiWare" through "DSi Shop."

The "Nintendo DSiWare" can be categorized into roughly 4 categories: Other than DSi Browser and Moving Notepad and other software that Nintendo offers free of charge, there will be "DSiWare 200" that you can purchase at 200 Points, "DSiWare500" at 500 Points, and "DSiWarePremium" that requires 800 Points or more. For DSiWare200, we are planning to offer very compact utility types of applications and small games, and for DSiWare 500, simple puzzle games and other more sophisticated utility tool application.

So that as many of our consumers can experience the DSi Ware download by accessing DSi Shop, we will conduct DSiWare trial campaigns to provide consumers with 1000 Nintendo DSi points when they purchase DSi and get access to DSi Shop. This special offer will run through the end of March 2010. We really hope you will experience the joy of creating your own or MY DS by downloading your favorite DSiWare to your Nintendo DSi, but we will announce the details at the next opportunity. As for the detailed lineup of DSiWare, we are planning to announce it in the near future, but I'd like to show some of them today.

So that as many of our consumers can experience the DSi Ware download by accessing DSi Shop, we will conduct DSiWare trial campaigns to provide consumers with 1000 Nintendo DSi points when they purchase DSi and get access to DSi Shop. This special offer will run through the end of March 2010. We really hope you will experience the joy of creating your own or MY DS by downloading your favorite DSiWare to your Nintendo DSi, but we will announce the details at the next opportunity. As for the detailed lineup of DSiWare, we are planning to announce it in the near future, but I'd like to show some of them today.

As you know, the two software titles from the Brain Training series for DS have created the "brain training" craze all across Japan. We have redeveloped these games as two DSiWare called "Small Brain DSi Training Everyday for Adults" Leterature Edition and Science Edition so that you can bring with you anytime and enjoy playing for a few minutes everyday. In addition to the Trainings which were popular with the past two titles, we are preparing new Trainings, some of which make use of photo-shooting and other new abilities of DSi. The software can be stored in the internal memory of DSi and it can tell you in advance approximately how long it will take for a training to be completed, so it is really handy for you to enjoy any spare time you have. Also, the popular Virus Buster mini-game from More Brain Training was included, and you can save the data even before you complete one game.

By now, we have established Nintendo DS Stations in approximately 1000 retail outlets in Japan.

As the 2nd step to establishing these WiFi connection points, we will start the new service called, "Nintendo Zone."
As the first step, we have formed a collaboration with McDonalds and we will start the Nintendo Zone service at McDonald outlets in Kanto, Chukyo and Kansai regions.

When you enter a "Nintendo Zone", the icon of Nintendo DSi flashes to notify you.
When you use Nintendo DS or Nintendo DS Lite to use the same service, you will first need to download "Nintendo Zone Viewer." In the case of Nintendo DSi, that function is already preinstalled in the internal memory, so you can use the services more easily.
When you are inside Nintendo Zone, no connection setup activities are required.

Original content exclusive to the area will be provided through the Nintendo Zone Viewer. The trial versions of DS software are already provided. In addition, for each DS software, the publishers are able to make additional content available for the download. DS can also take advantage of Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection.

Nintendo DSi will launch in two colors: Matte White and Matte Black.
The suggested retail price of Nintendo DSi is 18,900yen. We will launch it on November 1 2008 in Japan.
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Reply #4 posted 10/05/08 9:54pm

sonic

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Soo the battery consumption is greater... confused

the screen is bigger..(but not much)

what can i do with a memory card? neutral

& am wondering what the camera will be like? can you send pics via internet (email)?

gonna have to think about this~~
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Reply #5 posted 10/05/08 10:43pm

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This thread just makes me want to murder something. sigh

Why does nintendo always do this? First the DS...then the DS light that SHOULD HAVE BEEN what they just came out to begin with...and now, three seconds later...another update? Curse planned obselence. lol
I still have an original DS. lol

In other words, I want one...sigh
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Reply #6 posted 10/06/08 12:18am

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The billion dolllar question is will the R4DS and other chips for playing 'backups' still work. or have Nintendo found a way to counter them?
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Reply #7 posted 10/06/08 6:45am

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I'm getting two so I can get my Pokemonz on. smile

I wish there was a way to play DS games on a Wii, honestly. I would buy an extra just for that. Ah well... maybe next gen.
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