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June7 said: JustErin said: He wanted to kill it before he fed it to the croc? Don't we also kill our food before eating it? Look, I'm not saying the kid is not troubled - I don't know but it's probably not such a black and white issue here. No, we don't. We go to the store and it's already done for us. We go to burger joints and it's already prepared for us. We go to restaurants and it's already cooked and served for us. Unless he grew up on a farm (which could be the case, but that we don't know) and they slaughter their own food, skin it and prepare it, then there's no excuse for him to "kill the food" before feeding them to the croc. Also, it was reported that he only did that with a few of the reptiles, the others he threw in alive to die mercilessly. Another point. I have raised three children and was actually a stay-at-home dad for their first five years, and I always knew where my kids were. Where were his parents? How do you not know where your 7 year old child is for around an hour??? This is truly a very sad case.  You and I might not kill them...but someone does. That's all my point was. And again, zoos make feeding times special exhibits so the kid being fascinated by feeding it from what he saw is not such a far fetched idea. Not saying that's the case, I'm just saying that there's no way in hell I'd ever just say, "the kid's just evil - a write off". It’s called the bigger picture, that’s all. | |
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CarrieMpls said: pardonme4livin said: Maybe...just maybe it is though Erin....you seem terribly defensive.... I too only know what was reported in THIS instance....so perhaps there is MUCH more to this story.....but maybe not...you certainly must realize that it is possible this kid has some serious psychological issues that manifested themselves in to this incident.....just sayin'... It may also be perspective....you have a young boy at home and maybe it's a mother's intuition that makes you protective over him...I have an 8 year old boy too and comparing them to me makes my perspective easy to see. I dunno...I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist...I am not an expert in behavioral studies and I certainly am not qualified to make a clinical diagnosis...BUT I do have an opinion and life experience that tells me there is something VERY wrong with that boy....and at 7 years old to simply break in to the zoo is one thing...but to then enter various enclosures and kill the occupants...feeding some to the croc....whatever...if these were humans, we'd be talking about pre-meditated murder....not curiosity or anything else My opinion folks.... You admit there is something "wrong" with the child and then scoff at the idea of wanting to help him, you'd rather he be put to death. That's utterly absurd and incredibly disturbing. Easy now..... 
Do I "literally" think he should be put to death...no....that was more of a flippant comment than a true gauge of what I feel should be done. Help would have to be a relative term in regards to what could be done with this boy... | |
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JustErin said: June7 said: No, we don't. We go to the store and it's already done for us. We go to burger joints and it's already prepared for us. We go to restaurants and it's already cooked and served for us. Unless he grew up on a farm (which could be the case, but that we don't know) and they slaughter their own food, skin it and prepare it, then there's no excuse for him to "kill the food" before feeding them to the croc. Also, it was reported that he only did that with a few of the reptiles, the others he threw in alive to die mercilessly. Another point. I have raised three children and was actually a stay-at-home dad for their first five years, and I always knew where my kids were. Where were his parents? How do you not know where your 7 year old child is for around an hour??? This is truly a very sad case. You and I might not kill them...but someone does. That's all my point was. And again, zoos make feeding times special exhibits so the kid being fascinated by feeding it from what he saw is not such a far fetched idea. Not saying that's the case, I'm just saying that there's no way in hell I'd ever just say, "the kid's just evil - a write off". It’s called the bigger picture, that’s all. Well said. |
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JustErin said: pardonme4livin said: Maybe...just maybe it is though Erin....you seem terribly defensive.... I too only know what was reported in THIS instance....so perhaps there is MUCH more to this story.....but maybe not...you certainly must realize that it is possible this kid has some serious psychological issues that manifested themselves in to this incident.....just sayin'... It may also be perspective....you have a young boy at home and maybe it's a mother's intuition that makes you protective over him...I have an 8 year old boy too and comparing them to me makes my perspective easy to see. I dunno...I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist...I am not an expert in behavioral studies and I certainly am not qualified to make a clinical diagnosis...BUT I do have an opinion and life experience that tells me there is something VERY wrong with that boy....and at 7 years old to simply break in to the zoo is one thing...but to then enter various enclosures and kill the occupants...feeding some to the croc....whatever...if these were humans, we'd be talking about pre-meditated murder....not curiosity or anything else My opinion folks.... You think looking at the bigger picture and taking into account several possibilities is being 'terribly defensive'? And if you actually read my posts (and absorbed them) I did not dismiss that the child may have some serious issues. Having a son has nothing to do with my perspective on things. My opinion on these kinds of things were the same long before he came along. I have life experience as well...we all do. And you're right. You certainly are not a psychiatrist or psychologist or an expert in behavioral studies or qualified to make a clinical diagnosis. So let's just leave your post on that note.  I love it when you get all bossy.... | |
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JustErin said: June7 said: No, we don't. We go to the store and it's already done for us. We go to burger joints and it's already prepared for us. We go to restaurants and it's already cooked and served for us. Unless he grew up on a farm (which could be the case, but that we don't know) and they slaughter their own food, skin it and prepare it, then there's no excuse for him to "kill the food" before feeding them to the croc. Also, it was reported that he only did that with a few of the reptiles, the others he threw in alive to die mercilessly. Another point. I have raised three children and was actually a stay-at-home dad for their first five years, and I always knew where my kids were. Where were his parents? How do you not know where your 7 year old child is for around an hour??? This is truly a very sad case. You and I might not kill them...but someone does. That's all my point was. And again, zoos make feeding times special exhibits so the kid being fascinated by feeding it from what he saw is not such a far fetched idea. Not saying that's the case, I'm just saying that there's no way in hell I'd ever just say, "the kid's just evil - a write off". It’s called the bigger picture, that’s all. Someone is fired up today..... | |
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I'm just having a conversation here. Seriously, stop putting a tone that is simply not there on my posts, dude.
Actually, you can put it on that one. | |
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JustErin said: I'm just having a conversation here. Seriously, stop putting a tone that is simply not there on my posts, dude.
Actually, you can put it on that one. 
I'm reading it as it read it...a "tone" is how it comes across to me...that's the problem with these types of posts or forums...emotion cannot be conveyed, so people are left to their own devices to try and figure out what exactly the authors "tone" is....maybe that's why people misunderstand you all the time....you don't use enough emoticons to express your tone... 
See how easy that is...  | |
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Empress said: JustErin said: Very sad.
How does a 7 year old have the opportunity to be away alone like this? Because his parents are useless shits who should never be allowed to have kids. I can't wait to see the headlines 20-30 years from now. "Aussie Feeds Humans to Crocs" | |
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JustErin said: June7 said: Okay... then, explain the bashing of the lizards' and turtles' heads with a rock? 
These actions go beyond the normal curious child... it's definitely worthy of some psychological (sp?) review. He wanted to kill it before he fed it to the croc? Don't we also kill our food before eating it? Look, I'm not saying the kid is not troubled - I don't know but it's probably not such a black and white issue here. YES.... it is not black or white..and CHILDREN ARE NOT BORN BROKEN... they are born to broken PARENTS that CANNOT allow a child to evolve past the stage of broken parents axis II mental illness is chemical and if born to functioning adults the child will evolve past their illness.. | |
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U know someting. I have three kids and NONE of them would even consider throwing animals to a crocodile, let alone bashing lizard over the head with a damn rock!!!
That's just repulsive :disbelife: Yes, kids can be curious about things, but that dosent mean they wuould "want" to feed a croc animals, let alone deliberatley killing things with a rock!!! My yongest son is fascinated by things like Crocs and Dinosaurs, but he wouldnt go tossing other animals over the fence for them to eat. Infact he would be horrified. ANd being a parent, my question is the same as a few other people...WHERE THE HELL WERE HIS PARENTS DURING ALL THIS????? I don't let my kids too far out of my sight at home, knowing when kids are quiet for too long something is up
Let alone letting them wander off like that at a bloody Zoo for Goodness sake!! PRINCE IS WATCHING U  " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: U know someting. I have three kids and NONE of them would even consider throwing animals to a crocodile, let alone bashing lizard over the head with a damn rock!!!
That's just repulsive :disbelife: Yes, kids can be curious about things, but that dosent mean they wuould "want" to feed a croc animals, let alone deliberatley killing things with a rock!!! My yongest son is fascinated by things like Crocs and Dinosaurs, but he wouldnt go tossing other animals over the fence for them to eat. Infact he would be horrified. ANd being a parent, my question is the same as a few other people...WHERE THE HELL WERE HIS PARENTS DURING ALL THIS????? I don't let my kids too far out of my sight at home, knowing when kids are quiet for too long something is up
Let alone letting them wander off like that at a bloody Zoo for Goodness sake!! they were   they're way to I dont care | |
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Reminds me of that George Higgins character " There's no mystery. Things I do, I do them because I like them! Because I want to!"
Like it or not some folks are just like that, they're called sociopaths. | |
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It is Not NORMAL to bash a lizards brains in...or any animal.
It is a known FACT that most serial killers have tortured animals when they were growing up This is reason enough to get that kid into counseling before things really get out of hand. Jail is not the answer..he needs help. & if the parents dont do it,,,they should be charged. | |
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JustErin said: Very sad.
How does a 7 year old have the opportunity to be away alone like this? exactly  for half an hour he was gone from his parents | |
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seven years old? THAT is very disturbing. I hope somebody gets this child some help. | |
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Anyway, the kid is obviously a sociopath. Isn't 1 in 25 one? Most manage to blend in with society (not all become serial killers) It's the way their brains are wired, this kid's parents are probably already at their wits end 
"These people are not certifiably mentally ill; they are biological carriers of socially and personally problematic traits. Such traits may have been manifested from childhood on in acts of cruelty to animals, property or people. These characteristics can disrupt relationships, create financial and emotional crises, and, at their worst, lead the person to callously undertake acts of vandalism, theft, rape or murder." http://personalitydisorde..._sociopath | |
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this thread is comedy.that aint no kid that is chuckie. terry got xmas dinner early. what the hell kinda zoo was this anyways?! community college zoo that his ass broke in? GIVE ME STRENGTH JESUS! | |
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I saw the video on the news last night.. where were the parents? how does a 7 year old be out and about and the parents don't know where their child is? Blame the parents.. [Edited 10/5/08 1:04am] | |
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This kid needs counseling or something. There is something very very very wrong at home.
I cannot imagine a kid this young doing this stuff. 7 years old is very very young, people. We're not talking about a 16 year old hormone crazed sociopathic teenager. The fact that he apparently left home or where ever he was and was alone for a long enough time to enter this zoo and do these things shows (at least to me) that this boy is severly neglected. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Anyway, the kid is obviously a sociopath. Isn't 1 in 25 one? Most manage to blend in with society (not all become serial killers) It's the way their brains are wired, this kid's parents are probably already at their wits end
"These people are not certifiably mentally ill; they are biological carriers of socially and personally problematic traits. Such traits may have been manifested from childhood on in acts of cruelty to animals, property or people. These characteristics can disrupt relationships, create financial and emotional crises, and, at their worst, lead the person to callously undertake acts of vandalism, theft, rape or murder." http://personalitydisorde..._sociopath This article was written by a poet. | |
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JustErin said: ZombieKitten said: Anyway, the kid is obviously a sociopath. Isn't 1 in 25 one? Most manage to blend in with society (not all become serial killers) It's the way their brains are wired, this kid's parents are probably already at their wits end
"These people are not certifiably mentally ill; they are biological carriers of socially and personally problematic traits. Such traits may have been manifested from childhood on in acts of cruelty to animals, property or people. These characteristics can disrupt relationships, create financial and emotional crises, and, at their worst, lead the person to callously undertake acts of vandalism, theft, rape or murder." http://personalitydisorde..._sociopath This article was written by a poet. a Canadian poet. unreliable source then? | |
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I think all kids, especially boys, are born "evil," and need to be taught not to do this kind of stuff early, or it will progress. First they hurt ants, then flies, then slugs, etc. There's a natural tendency towards destruction in boys. They love to break stuff and set fire to things.
Kids are cruel & heartless by nature. If they don't get their way they'll hit you in the face. You don't blame a cat for killing just because it sees something move or hears it squeak. And we don't blame the crocodile for eating the animals. Boys are no different, except for their capacity for learning. Morality is not innate, it is taught/learned. The parents are at fault here. My Legacy
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pardonme4livin said: JustErin said: I'm just having a conversation here. Seriously, stop putting a tone that is simply not there on my posts, dude.
Actually, you can put it on that one.
I'm reading it as it read it...a "tone" is how it comes across to me...that's the problem with these types of posts or forums...emotion cannot be conveyed, so people are left to their own devices to try and figure out what exactly the authors "tone" is....maybe that's why people misunderstand you all the time....you don't use enough emoticons to express your tone...
See how easy that is... ahhh...your original comment had no emoticons to suggest you didn't really mean what you said...and what you said was "Throw the boy to the croc.... nuff said.... I don't wanna hear even one person say he needs help or any other bullshit....some people are BORN broken...throw his ass to the croc and let Terry deal with him..... so if that's how you really feel you should stick by it...not turn tail and say it was just a flippant remark when someone points out how horrible you just sounded. as for this case and this boy...God help him...Who knows what's going on or being done to this boy when his parents are not paying attention. It's very sad indeed. I hear what some are saying about boys being naturally destructive...boys I knew growing up blew up frogs with fire crackers and smashed sun fish on the ground but on the other hand I do not believe that all boys are that way or if the ones who are were never guided properly they would get worse and worse. I do believe that most of us in our hearts no it's wrong to hurt someone or something....whether it's taught to them or not...I just think it would take longer for them to figure it out on their own. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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June7 said: JustErin said: He wanted to kill it before he fed it to the croc? Don't we also kill our food before eating it? Look, I'm not saying the kid is not troubled - I don't know but it's probably not such a black and white issue here. No, we don't. We go to the store and it's already done for us. We go to burger joints and it's already prepared for us. We go to restaurants and it's already cooked and served for us. Unless he grew up on a farm (which could be the case, but that we don't know) and they slaughter their own food, skin it and prepare it, then there's no excuse for him to "kill the food" before feeding them to the croc. Also, it was reported that he only did that with a few of the reptiles, the others he threw in alive to die mercilessly. Another point. I have raised three children and was actually a stay-at-home dad for their first five years, and I always knew where my kids were. Where were his parents? How do you not know where your 7 year old child is for around an hour??? This is truly a very sad case. no way...I personally believe that if he grew up on a farm he'd have WAY more respect for life. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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