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PrintableIceNine said: IceNine said: Here are some distinctions that I like to make. Intelligence and common sense go hand-in-hand and are not culturally-biased. Pitting intelligence versus common sense is not actually a useful thing to do.
Intelligence is the ability to acquire and store knowledge. People with higher intelligence can learn more information and apply it more easily than less intelligent people. Education is the acquisition of knowledge by whatever means. One can be educated in different ways and by different means. A scholar is educated in school, whereas a criminal is educated in the streets or in jail. Children are educated by studying their surroundings and learning in school. Common Sense is knowledge that involves using good judgment without specialized education or training. Common sense is applicable across all races, creeds and nations and is not specific to one group. Cultural Sense involves knowing and understanding interactions in a certain environment and is not "common sense" in any sense of the word. This kind of knowledge is based upon experiences within a certain culture or subset of society. Street Sense involves knowing the rules and customs of certain segments of society that are sometimes localized and vary from place to place. Any thoughts? Natasha?  | |
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Thecherryloon said:[quote] SweeTea said: Intelligence will take you to the farthest reaches of the universe to where no man has gone before.
Common Sense will take you to the American Dream where you will live in peace and harmony with your neighbor. Which do you chose? . your description of the American dream is quite interesting, considering Americans are THE most insular race of people on the planet (even your post excludes every other nation in the world from answering!).I don't see much Peace and harmony emanating from there either for that matter! This is funny, I like it. Yeah, it's like the baseball "world" series! America makes me laugh. [This message was edited Wed Nov 20 11:29:14 PST 2002 by bkk1981] | |
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SweeTea said: CherryMoon said: I've had many a conversation on this topic. I'll say you need at least 50% of both.
I would have to agree with you, but it seems those who have intelligence lack common sense. They try to explain the woes of society on a lack of intelligence/education. But I'll answer my own question and chose common sense, as being a Black American, I've personally experienced the hardships of trying to obtain a quality education, and in this country one does not always have the option of obtaining both intelligence and common sense. . There is a general lack of intelligence/education in many countries, in Thailand for example. This leads the people to be quite inept, though of course they have common sense or else they couldn't live their lives. I'm not sure about America but in my experience the Americans I have met while in Thailand have been, almost to a man, educated AND unintelligent. There was one exception. | |
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You have to be Intelligent but also have Common Sense. You have to be Wise. I think it's more Important to have Common Sense. Poor Judgement and not being able to make Smart Decisions well result in alot of Problems for you and yours. | |
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IceNine said: IceNine said: Here are some distinctions that I like to make. Intelligence and common sense go hand-in-hand and are not culturally-biased. Pitting intelligence versus common sense is not actually a useful thing to do.
Intelligence is the ability to acquire and store knowledge. People with higher intelligence can learn more information and apply it more easily than less intelligent people. Education is the acquisition of knowledge by whatever means. One can be educated in different ways and by different means. A scholar is educated in school, whereas a criminal is educated in the streets or in jail. Children are educated by studying their surroundings and learning in school. Common Sense is knowledge that involves using good judgment without specialized education or training. Common sense is applicable across all races, creeds and nations and is not specific to one group. Cultural Sense involves knowing and understanding interactions in a certain environment and is not "common sense" in any sense of the word. This kind of knowledge is based upon experiences within a certain culture or subset of society. Street Sense involves knowing the rules and customs of certain segments of society that are sometimes localized and vary from place to place. Any thoughts? I think common sense alone leads to mediocrity. Intelligence can lead to genius, greatness, and lunacy. Common sense is the middle way, but it's dull. Common sense is for those with no original thoughts. They can go far and achieve some success, but they'll be dull with it. I think Prince is intelligent but he has no common sense. | |
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Many so called Sucessful People may not have had the Education such as Schooling but they Taught themselves. You know they are Hip to the Street or they just had Talent and they were able to make good Decisions. They were Leaders and they took chances. Common Sense is Very Important . Michael Jackson didn't use much Common Sense yesterday and Today he is getting Negative Press on the Matter. Always Think before you Act. Your Actions will cause a Reaction. I also find it quite Disturbing at how much Bias we all have about issues in this world. Quite Sickening for Sure. Wish it wasn't so. | |
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IceNine said: Intelligence is the ability to acquire and store knowledge. People with higher intelligence can learn more information and apply it more easily than less intelligent people.
I would say that intelligence is the ability to use knowledge in a creative, logical and productive way...not simply the ability to aquire and store knowledge...that sounds more like the definition of "memory"...Intelligent people are those who can utilize whatever knowledge they have and reach logical, truthful conclusions from that knowledge...that's why IQ test are comprised primarily of questions like "If boat=38, then water=?" and not ones like "What's the capital of Nevada"...IQ tests don't ask what you already know, but what it is you can logically figure out from the facts provided... Education is the acquisition of knowledge by whatever means. One can be educated in different ways and by different means. A scholar is educated in school, whereas a criminal is educated in the streets or in jail. Children are educated by studying their surroundings and learning in school.
Agree witcha there... Common Sense is knowledge that involves using good judgment without specialized education or training. Common sense is applicable across all races, creeds and nations and is not specific to one group.
Agree with that, too...although I might say that common sense is the application of logic in situations without the need or use of knowledge or "formal" education...common sense can be wrong, but it can never be illogical... Cultural Sense involves knowing and understanding interactions in a certain environment and is not "common sense" in any sense of the word. This kind of knowledge is based upon experiences within a certain culture or subset of society.
Wouldn't that be better termed as "cultural intelligence"??... Street Sense involves knowing the rules and customs of certain segments of society that are sometimes localized and vary from place to place.
Is that anything like "street smarts", which is usually defined as the ability to "survive" in the world without the benefits of formal education or training??... Any thoughts?
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What are you saying Prince is the Idiot Sevant? No,he just has Trusted the wrong people and not been Fully Involved Aware of what was going on with his Business. He was Afraid of the Right People but Trusted the Wrong ones in my Opinion. I hope he doesn't get Duped anymore by Money Hungry Psychophants. He doesn't need it. | |
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wellbeyond said: IceNine said: Intelligence is the ability to acquire and store knowledge. People with higher intelligence can learn more information and apply it more easily than less intelligent people.
I would say that intelligence is the ability to use knowledge in a creative, logical and productive way...not simply the ability to aquire and store knowledge...that sounds more like the definition of "memory"...Intelligent people are those who can utilize whatever knowledge they have and reach logical, truthful conclusions from that knowledge...that's why IQ test are comprised primarily of questions like "If boat=38, then water=?" and not ones like "What's the capital of Nevada"...IQ tests don't ask what you already know, but what it is you can logically figure out from the facts provided... Education is the acquisition of knowledge by whatever means. One can be educated in different ways and by different means. A scholar is educated in school, whereas a criminal is educated in the streets or in jail. Children are educated by studying their surroundings and learning in school.
Agree witcha there... Common Sense is knowledge that involves using good judgment without specialized education or training. Common sense is applicable across all races, creeds and nations and is not specific to one group.
Agree with that, too...although I might say that common sense is the application of logic in situations without the need or use of knowledge or "formal" education...common sense can be wrong, but it can never be illogical... Cultural Sense involves knowing and understanding interactions in a certain environment and is not "common sense" in any sense of the word. This kind of knowledge is based upon experiences within a certain culture or subset of society.
Wouldn't that be better termed as "cultural intelligence"??... Street Sense involves knowing the rules and customs of certain segments of society that are sometimes localized and vary from place to place.
Is that anything like "street smarts", which is usually defined as the ability to "survive" in the world without the benefits of formal education or training??... Any thoughts?
A few, yeah... Yeah, you are right... I went for very quick and simple definitions to kinda sort out the mess a bit, but you are correct in what you are saying. SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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OK,
I'll go one step further & suggest that You HAVE to be intelligent to have any common sense. Intelligence is the ability to think and reason. It's also your speed, ability and capacity to both acquire information and be able to apply it. It is not how much you know, but your ability to learn and understand. Common Sense is your inherent ability to use good judgement. This is not based on specialized knowledge, but the ability to quickly assess any given situation and make the best response. Again it is not based in what you know, but on your abilty to successfully apply your understanding. So as you can see Common Sense is really just one aspect of your overall intelligence. | |
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As a very wise person said to me
To bad Common Sense is not Common or everyone would have it I then said well everyone has common sense they just choose not to use it. And as far as intelligence it is the same way it is how you use but it's there. Then 5 minutes later I get a call from a teacher. She has the child of one of my cousins in her class the child is asthmatic. She is calling me over 150 miles away to ask what should she do? She then proceeds to hand the phone to a 5 year old that can barely breathe and says talk to your cousin. The scary part she is a teacher it never dawned on her to call an ambulance. Or take the child to the office where her inhaler is. All this after I spend all day explaining to this same woman that the child is not playing if she comes up to you and says she can not breathe. Just 24 hours before this she could not have forgotten that fast. I gave her a chance nerves you know dealing with a class full of 5 year olds takes a toll right. She began to curse me out because after all she had a college degree and I had alot of nerve telling her what to do. I hand the phone to the person the just brought up this same topic and said theres and example of someone that is not using either one. You ask where the child's mother was right there in the same city. It also did dawn on her to call either of her parents. Calling me made the most sense did I mention that I was 150 mile away from them. sorry if that was over your head...jump up and try to catch the point next time. | |
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Common sense is more important then anything, without it ur life's going nowhere.  | |
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IceNine said: Here are some distinctions that I like to make. Intelligence and common sense go hand-in-hand and are not culturally-biased. Pitting intelligence versus common sense is not actually a useful thing to do.
Intelligence is the ability to acquire and store knowledge. People with higher intelligence can learn more information and apply it more easily than less intelligent people. KNOWLEDGE IS NOTHING without the WISDOM to use it, INTELLIGENCE does not equal WISDOM. Education is the acquisition of knowledge by whatever means. One can be educated in different ways and by different means. A scholar is educated in school, whereas a criminal is educated in the streets or in jail. Children are educated by studying their surroundings and learning in school. NUFF SAID!!! Common Sense is knowledge that involves using good judgment without specialized education or training. Common sense is applicable across all races, creeds and nations and is not specific to one group. THIS WOULD BE THE CULMINATION OF INTELLIGENCE AND WISDOM. Cultural Sense involves knowing and understanding interactions in a certain environment and is not "common sense" in any sense of the word. This kind of knowledge is based upon experiences within a certain culture or subset of society. TRUE THAT... Street Sense involves knowing the rules and customs of certain segments of society that are sometimes localized and vary from place to place. BUT in the REAL WORLD to survive you'ld better have the INTELLIGENTS and the WISDOM and GOOD SENSE to know that TO KEEP GETTIN WHUT YOU GETTIN, YOU KEEP DOIN WHUT YOU DOIN... GAME RECONIZE GAME ALL OVER THE PLANET. [This message was edited Wed Nov 20 15:10:46 PST 2002 by 00769BAD] I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
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Wow! That was very interesting. Thanks everybody for your responses.
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It takes quite a bit of intelligence 2 make use of common sense. but in my xperience with certain idividuals, a person who excells in mathematics mainly, has less common sense than an educated person in the humanites for xample. AND, common sense comes from ones life's xperiences, mistakes, age, lots of reading, awareness, dealings with ppl, as well. May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love.   | |
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I wish I had more common sense than I have, but unfortunately this is not the case...I am definitely have more intelligence than common sense. Sad to say, but true. | |
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