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Thread started 09/29/08 7:13am

Graycap23

Atlanta motorists stalk fuel trucks;

The gasoline shortage in Atlanta is OUT of CONTROL:






Atlanta motorists stalk fuel trucks;
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Sunday, September 28, 2008

Tanker truck drivers have never been so popular in metro Atlanta.

A line of cars literally followed a fuel-filled truck Sunday as it pulled into a QuikTrip tucked between Lawrenceville Highway and the North DeKalb Mall around 11 a.m. And it wasn’t long before more motorists swooned, seemingly under the spell of some petro perfume.



Tonniki King was one of two clerks directing motorists to the 22 pumps. She waved vehicles into place with her right hand. But her left hand told the rest of the story. It held white plastic bags, the ones she removed an hour earlier and expected to put back over the pumps again.

Each fuel delivery has typically lasted seven hours, she said, followed by four hours of waiting. In between, motorists have been parking next to the pumps, trying to camp out. King politely asks them move on, until that next tanker truck arrives.
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Reply #1 posted 09/29/08 7:15am

Mach

hug Gray

I was out of gas last week monday - friday as was my dad

Not a single gas station in our county had gas eek

Did you know that many people all over the US didn't even know about our areas gas trouble

confused

people were pulling guns on each other in Charlotte man ...

guess we arn't worth the news shrug



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[Edited 9/29/08 7:17am]
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Reply #2 posted 09/29/08 7:18am

emm

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what the heck???? why aren't you getting fuel?
doveShe couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay dove
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Reply #3 posted 09/29/08 7:19am

Mach

Even today colleges are closed as are public schools and local government buildings ...
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Reply #4 posted 09/29/08 7:20am

Mach

emm said:

what the heck???? why aren't you getting fuel?


closed the pipeline for the Texas hurricane 2 weeks ago ( or more )

they say it was open OVER a week ago now ...
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Reply #5 posted 09/29/08 7:23am

Graycap23

It seems that a lot of people don't know about this.

I don't understand why they can't reroute a few trucks from location other that the Gulf. It doesn't make a lot of sense 2 me. Don't these people have contingency plans?
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Reply #6 posted 09/29/08 7:28am

emm

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ASHEVILLE – The timing of back-to-back Hurricanes Gustav and Ike is partly to blame for gas shortages that have been worse than those following more destructive storms in the same Gulf Coast region, experts and industry officials say.

The storms hit at a time when refineries had decreased production to switch from summer-grade to winter-grade fuel, said Tex Pitfield, president of gas hauler Saraguay Petroleum Corp. in Atlanta.

Gustav took some refineries down Sept. 1, and Ike hit just as they were getting back online. Together, the storms knocked out nine gas refineries and heavily damaged about 10 others in just 11 days.

That’s meant almost a month of lagging supply coming from the Gulf Coast region through the Colonial Pipeline, which supplies fuel to a swath of the country that includes Western North Carolina. The pipeline is running at 75 percent capacity.

Panic buying that started the day Ike made landfall consumed gas left at WNC stations, creating a shortage that the fuel companies couldn’t fill because the refineries were still down.

Wholesalers told their contract customers they wouldn’t be getting full shipments.

Small, independent stations — which are common in the WNC — found they couldn’t get gas because they buy without contract guarantees.

“When there is a shortage, based on contractual arrangements, the independent gas stations are cut off first,” Karl Knapp, research and policy analysis for the N.C. League of Municipalities, said in an e-mail to county managers Thursday. “Since Western North Carolina is mostly supplied by independent dealers, the shortages are more acute there.”

Now, 25 days after Gustav and 14 days after Ike, the region is still short on gas. Experts say the shortage could continue another week.

“We passed Katrina and Rita last week,” Pitfield said.

The timeframe is significant because Katrina in 2005 did almost double the estimated $45 billion in damage that came with Gustav and Ike — yet the gas shortages that followed Katrina lasted barely a week.

Hurricane Rita that same year knocked out 12 refineries and damaged five others. But what followed was a price spike to $3.17 a gallon — not a massive shortage.

Pitfield doesn’t look for it to get better in Atlanta for another week. He bets it will be a day or two after that before WNC sees significant relief.

“There is just no product,” he said.

He said the gas market doesn’t reward companies for stockpiling fuel to sell during a shortage because of the daily changes in price.

That was echoed by other industry experts.

“It is not just Asheville,” said James Smith, chief economist at Parsec Financial Management, an Asheville-based financial adviser. “It’s a large combination of things — one of them clearly is just about everybody who provides gas has really poor strategic planning.”
http://www.citizen-times....0880925122
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Reply #7 posted 09/29/08 7:31am

emm

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i was dumbfounded as to why you were the ones affected versus a multitude of other places those refineries would make fuel for. are there really that many independent stations there?
doveShe couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay dove
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Reply #8 posted 09/29/08 7:36am

Graycap23

This seems like a big game 2 me.....someone is either really incompetent or playing games 2 drive up prices.
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Reply #9 posted 09/29/08 9:32am

purplebutterfl
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wowow!!!!! makes me think what will happen next. i live on the east coast
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Reply #10 posted 09/29/08 9:46am

horatio

sounds like a B movie
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Reply #11 posted 09/29/08 9:48am

Graycap23

horatio said:

sounds like a B movie

More like a "D' movie. D = Dollar$.....
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Reply #12 posted 09/29/08 10:52am

Mach

horatio said:

sounds like a B movie


Try living it


confused

sucks HUGE on one hand and then holds GREAT lessons on the other
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Reply #13 posted 09/29/08 11:03am

Graycap23

Mach said:

horatio said:

sounds like a B movie


Try living it


confused

sucks HUGE on one hand and then holds GREAT lessons on the other

Exactly right.
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Reply #14 posted 09/29/08 11:10am

phunkdaddy

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Mach said:

hug Gray

I was out of gas last week monday - friday as was my dad

Not a single gas station in our county had gas eek

Did you know that many people all over the US didn't even know about our areas gas trouble

confused

people were pulling guns on each other in Charlotte man ...

guess we arn't worth the news shrug



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[Edited 9/29/08 7:17am]


Yeah i live nearby in fort mill and watching the news was disturbing. I saw
two ladies arguing with each other because one felt the other was trying
to cut in front of her on carowinds blvd. I was like the hell with this man i can get gas 1 or 2 in the morning especially since i work 3rd shift anyway.
I just can't imaginge grown ass men and women arguing and fighting over gas.
I guess the shortage was worse in charlotte given the growing population but damn. Fort Mill and Rock Hill would be out at times but most of the times i had no problem finding gas in Rock Hill. Come on cross the state line if you have to but leave all the damn gun toters in charlotte behind if you don't mind. lol
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #15 posted 09/29/08 11:15am

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Mach said:

emm said:

what the heck???? why aren't you getting fuel?


closed the pipeline for the Texas hurricane 2 weeks ago ( or more )

they say it was open OVER a week ago now ...



Good Grief!!!!
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Reply #16 posted 09/29/08 11:15am

Mach

phunkdaddy said:

Mach said:

hug Gray

I was out of gas last week monday - friday as was my dad

Not a single gas station in our county had gas eek

Did you know that many people all over the US didn't even know about our areas gas trouble

confused

people were pulling guns on each other in Charlotte man ...

guess we arn't worth the news shrug



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[Edited 9/29/08 7:17am]


Yeah i live nearby in fort mill and watching the news was disturbing. I saw
two ladies arguing with each other because one felt the other was trying
to cut in front of her on carowinds blvd. I was like the hell with this man i can get gas 1 or 2 in the morning especially since i work 3rd shift anyway.
I just can't imaginge grown ass men and women arguing and fighting over gas.
I guess the shortage was worse in charlotte given the growing population but damn. Fort Mill and Rock Hill would be out at times but most of the times i had no problem finding gas in Rock Hill. Come on cross the state line if you have to but leave all the damn gun toters in charlotte behind if you don't mind. lol


It's a bit frustrating though I have and keep a level head lol

I can drive 35 minutes to Newport TN and there is gas with no cars in line
Yet friday here the law was surrounding the local stations and keeping the peace when people would show up and act an ass when the stations were NOT selling gas @ noon

craziness I tell ya
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Reply #17 posted 09/29/08 11:17am

Mach

bluesbaby said:

Mach said:



closed the pipeline for the Texas hurricane 2 weeks ago ( or more )

they say it was open OVER a week ago now ...



Good Grief!!!!
Yeah pretty much lol
I was able to fill up last night in Erwin TN on my way home from taking JT back to college and for 3.70 a gallon instead of the 4 + somethig here IF and when they HAVE gas lol
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Reply #18 posted 09/29/08 11:35am

XxAxX

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Mach said:

hug Gray

I was out of gas last week monday - friday as was my dad

Not a single gas station in our county had gas eek

Did you know that many people all over the US didn't even know about our areas gas trouble

confused

people were pulling guns on each other in Charlotte man ...

guess we arn't worth the news shrug



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[Edited 9/29/08 7:17am]


eek huh???? for real?
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Reply #19 posted 09/29/08 11:38am

Mach

XxAxX said:

Mach said:

hug Gray

I was out of gas last week monday - friday as was my dad

Not a single gas station in our county had gas eek

Did you know that many people all over the US didn't even know about our areas gas trouble

confused

people were pulling guns on each other in Charlotte man ...

guess we arn't worth the news shrug



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[Edited 9/29/08 7:17am]


eek huh???? for real?


nod SERIOUSLY

lol many people think it's a joke

It's NOT

we're living this folks

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Reply #20 posted 09/29/08 11:41am

XxAxX

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Mach said:

XxAxX said:



eek huh???? for real?


nod SERIOUSLY

lol many people think it's a joke

It's NOT

we're living this folks

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it will not take long for so-called 'civilization' to break down. hope you are all right. i think it might be time for all of us to think about stockpiling a few necessities for the coming months.
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Reply #21 posted 09/29/08 11:43am

Graycap23

Mach said:

phunkdaddy said:



Yeah i live nearby in fort mill and watching the news was disturbing. I saw
two ladies arguing with each other because one felt the other was trying
to cut in front of her on carowinds blvd. I was like the hell with this man i can get gas 1 or 2 in the morning especially since i work 3rd shift anyway.
I just can't imaginge grown ass men and women arguing and fighting over gas.
I guess the shortage was worse in charlotte given the growing population but damn. Fort Mill and Rock Hill would be out at times but most of the times i had no problem finding gas in Rock Hill. Come on cross the state line if you have to but leave all the damn gun toters in charlotte behind if you don't mind. lol


It's a bit frustrating though I have and keep a level head lol

I can drive 35 minutes to Newport TN and there is gas with no cars in line
Yet friday here the law was surrounding the local stations and keeping the peace when people would show up and act an ass when the stations were NOT selling gas @ noon

craziness I tell ya


I'm going out at 2:00 AM 2 fill up all of my cars. sad
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Reply #22 posted 09/29/08 11:49am

Mach

Graycap23 said:

Mach said:



It's a bit frustrating though I have and keep a level head lol

I can drive 35 minutes to Newport TN and there is gas with no cars in line
Yet friday here the law was surrounding the local stations and keeping the peace when people would show up and act an ass when the stations were NOT selling gas @ noon

craziness I tell ya


I'm going out at 2:00 AM 2 fill up all of my cars. sad


I think we finally got gas delivered here to the 2 closest stations on sat night
I have not been out yet today to see if the lines are long or if gas is still available. I also wonder if the law is still camped out at them ...
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Reply #23 posted 09/29/08 12:03pm

Graycap23

Mach said:

Graycap23 said:



I'm going out at 2:00 AM 2 fill up all of my cars. sad


I think we finally got gas delivered here to the 2 closest stations on sat night
I have not been out yet today to see if the lines are long or if gas is still available. I also wonder if the law is still camped out at them ...

This is a big mess. Makes me wonder what the heck is really going on?
There is more 2 this than meets the eye.
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Reply #24 posted 09/29/08 12:33pm

horatio

Mach said:

horatio said:

sounds like a B movie


Try living it


confused

sucks HUGE on one hand and then holds GREAT lessons on the other


i imagine the truck driver fending for his life and truck with a sawed off shot gun lol
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Reply #25 posted 09/29/08 1:52pm

butterfli25

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wow I had no idea it was that bad. hug to all my southeastern orgers
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Reply #26 posted 10/01/08 1:10am

Flowers2

Mach said:

Did you know that many people all over the US didn't even know about our areas gas trouble

confused



.. that's the media for you.. I had not heard anything either..
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Reply #27 posted 10/01/08 3:40am

JerseyKRS

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I can't wait to move out of this country.


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Reply #28 posted 10/01/08 5:44am

Graycap23

There have been actual fist fights at stations across the city. Can u believe that?
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Reply #29 posted 10/01/08 6:24am

XxAxX

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hope things are sorting out for you guys rose
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