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nurseV

Serious Dilemma

Okay-real talk here smile Some time ago my best friend told me that she was a lesbian eek She told me that she had been through so much with men and just got tired of being abused by them-that she chose to be with a woman. We'll that wasn't what bothered me-what really got me was that I was the last person she told sad She told me that she didn't want me to stop talking to her like some of her so called friends had done sad She said that she didn't know how to tell me-she told her parents and her daughter and it took them forever to accept her new life choice. I've known her since we were 12-she's 35 and I'm 36 she's like my little sister. I can honestly say that I don't understand her reason for being Lesbian, but I am trying wink (Please don't be mad at me for this and I don't mean to offend). It really still hurts me that she thought that I would not love her anymore-we talk everyday, but I've never told her my feelings. What do you think? I'm I wrong for feeling this way? Should I be more supportive? Please help me understand a little better wink
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Reply #1 posted 10/02/08 4:58pm

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Despite not knowing what a difficult process that must be for some I'll go out on a limb and say that she was probably very afraid of losing you as her best friend.

That said, if you still love & care for her, as best friends should, then just go with the flow. You should continue to talk to her about her feelings and maybe through that conversation you'll gain better understanding of why she feels the way she does. Being homosexual shouldn't be such a big deal anyway...


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Reply #2 posted 10/02/08 4:59pm

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OK, just to get it over with: you're just pissed cause she doesn't want to be a lesbian with YOU.

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OK seriously?
She obviously cares a lot what you think and has been agonising over what you are going to think of her. Let her know it's not the lesbian thing, you can learn to accept that (and sounds like she knows already your views on it, making it even harder for her), but the fact that you were LAST to know and since you value your friendship, you found that hurtful.
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Reply #3 posted 10/02/08 4:59pm

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Hi baby!!!!! hug

She told me that she didn't want me to stop talking to her like some of her so called friends had done. She said that she didn't know how to tell me-she told her parents and her daughter and it took them forever to accept her new life choice.


You shouldn't be insulted honey. Fear is a huge motivator. It sounds like you were the last safety zone she had and considering her experience with other people and how they reacted, she felt it was too huge a risk to take a chance that you'd have the same reaction that most of the people she told had.

Be glad that she was finally able to trust you and be open. It's so scary coming out. Scary as hell nod I'm glad she has such a wonderful friend as you kisses
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Reply #4 posted 10/02/08 5:00pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Hi baby!!!!! hug

She told me that she didn't want me to stop talking to her like some of her so called friends had done. She said that she didn't know how to tell me-she told her parents and her daughter and it took them forever to accept her new life choice.


You shouldn't be insulted honey. Fear is a huge motivator. It sounds like you were the last safety zone she had and considering her experience with other people and how they reacted, she felt it was too huge a risk to take a chance that you'd have the same reaction that most of the people she told had.

Be glad that she was finally able to trust you and be open. It's so scary coming out. Scary as hell nod I'm glad she has such a wonderful friend as you kisses



better to listen to Supa, at least he knows what he's talkin' about... nod
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Reply #5 posted 10/02/08 5:04pm

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nurseV said:

I can honestly say that I don't understand her reason for being Lesbian, but I am trying wink



Maybe she picked up on that vibe....and maybe she didn't want to have to see that inadvertant look of confusion or "disappointment" and say "oh no, not you too" to her best friend....yeah?

I say that because my sis said that to me when she finally told me that she was a lesbian.....
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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Reply #6 posted 10/02/08 5:06pm

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"She told me that she had been through so much with men and just got tired of being abused by them-that she chose to be with a woman"
You can choose you orientation now? hmmm
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Reply #7 posted 10/02/08 5:06pm

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reneGade20 said:

nurseV said:

I can honestly say that I don't understand her reason for being Lesbian, but I am trying wink



Maybe she picked up on that vibe....and maybe she didn't want to have to see that inadvertant look of confusion or "disappointment" and say "oh no, not you too" to her best friend....yeah?

I say that because my sis said that to me when she finally told me that she was a lesbian.....

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NE

GADE!!!!

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Reply #8 posted 10/02/08 5:10pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

reneGade20 said:




Maybe she picked up on that vibe....and maybe she didn't want to have to see that inadvertant look of confusion or "disappointment" and say "oh no, not you too" to her best friend....yeah?

I say that because my sis said that to me when she finally told me that she was a lesbian.....

RE

NE

GADE!!!!

hug




hug HEY SUPA!!

I was beginning to think there was no love for me anymore.....shameless plug!! lol
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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the video for the above...evillol
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Reply #9 posted 10/02/08 5:10pm

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reneGade20 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


RE

NE

GADE!!!!

hug




hug HEY SUPA!!

I was beginning to think there was no love for me anymore.....shameless plug!! lol


Well this is the first time I seen you in months! lol You should know better. I never stop stalking! lol
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Reply #10 posted 10/02/08 5:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

reneGade20 said:




hug HEY SUPA!!

I was beginning to think there was no love for me anymore.....shameless plug!! lol


Well this is the first time I seen you in months! lol You should know better. I never stop stalking! lol


Well I just got back to my unit a couple of weeks ago...I was at an Air Force base in Cocoa Beach, Florida taking the Equal Opportunity Advisor's course and it was WAYYY more demanding academically than any military course I've ever attended...long story short, not a whole lot of time for the 'net...

I know better.....redface
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Reply #11 posted 10/02/08 5:17pm

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Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.
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Reply #12 posted 10/02/08 5:20pm

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sextonseven said:

Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.


My friend Pam said the same thing, she was married and has 2 (now grown) kids. She was attracted to women all along, but never pursued it until she was 100% sure men weren't for her - unfortunately it took her a long time dead
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Reply #13 posted 10/02/08 5:21pm

nurseV

RenHoek said:

Despite not knowing what a difficult process that must be for some I'll go out on a limb and say that she was probably very afraid of losing you as her best friend.

That said, if you still love & care for her, as best friends should, then just go with the flow. You should continue to talk to her about her feelings and maybe through that conversation you'll gain better understanding of why she feels the way she does. Being homosexual shouldn't be such a big deal anyway...


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Thanks 4 ur honest answer-I do try to go with the flow. She tells me about her relationship all the time and I try to be supportive. I just wondered if it was appropriate to tell her that my feelings were hurt? Maybe I'm being selfish and should worry about her now and not myself eek
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Reply #14 posted 10/02/08 5:21pm

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ZombieKitten said:

sextonseven said:

Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.


My friend Pam said the same thing, she was married and has 2 (now grown) kids. She was attracted to women all along, but never pursued it until she was 100% sure men weren't for her - unfortunately it took her a long time dead

sounds to me like the abuse is an excuse to justify the choice because I have been in horrid relationships and it didn't push me into the arms of a woman lol
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Reply #15 posted 10/02/08 5:23pm

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ZombieKitten said:

OK, just to get it over with: you're just pissed cause she doesn't want to be a lesbian with YOU.

j/k

tease


OK seriously?
She obviously cares a lot what you think and has been agonising over what you are going to think of her. Let her know it's not the lesbian thing, you can learn to accept that (and sounds like she knows already your views on it, making it even harder for her), but the fact that you were LAST to know and since you value your friendship, you found that hurtful.


razz Yeah that last to know thing bothers me all the time. I don't bring it up because she tells me that her mother has said so many hurtful things to her-I just don't want to hurt her too.
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Reply #16 posted 10/02/08 5:24pm

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sextonseven said:

Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.


My friend Pam said the same thing, she was married and has 2 (now grown) kids. She was attracted to women all along, but never pursued it until she was 100% sure men weren't for her - unfortunately it took her a long time dead

But stating its because shes tired of beeing treated like crap is a bad excuse, dosent sound like a real lesbian too me.
At least shes bi, but tired of men.
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Reply #17 posted 10/02/08 5:25pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Hi baby!!!!! hug

She told me that she didn't want me to stop talking to her like some of her so called friends had done. She said that she didn't know how to tell me-she told her parents and her daughter and it took them forever to accept her new life choice.


You shouldn't be insulted honey. Fear is a huge motivator. It sounds like you were the last safety zone she had and considering her experience with other people and how they reacted, she felt it was too huge a risk to take a chance that you'd have the same reaction that most of the people she told had.

Be glad that she was finally able to trust you and be open. It's so scary coming out. Scary as hell nod I'm glad she has such a wonderful friend as you kisses


Thanks Supa hug You always tell me the truth wink I never looked at it that way-maybe she told me last because she already knew that no matter what-I'd still love her.
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Reply #18 posted 10/02/08 5:28pm

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reneGade20 said:

nurseV said:

I can honestly say that I don't understand her reason for being Lesbian, but I am trying wink



Maybe she picked up on that vibe....and maybe she didn't want to have to see that inadvertant look of confusion or "disappointment" and say "oh no, not you too" to her best friend....yeah?

I say that because my sis said that to me when she finally told me that she was a lesbian.....


Vibe? I've never said anything to her to make her feel like I had something against Lesbians-because I don't-HELL I've thought about it myself lol I was just disappointed that she thought so little of me-but now I can see Supa's point wink
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Reply #19 posted 10/02/08 5:29pm

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nurseV said:

reneGade20 said:




Maybe she picked up on that vibe....and maybe she didn't want to have to see that inadvertant look of confusion or "disappointment" and say "oh no, not you too" to her best friend....yeah?

I say that because my sis said that to me when she finally told me that she was a lesbian.....


Vibe? I've never said anything to her to make her feel like I had something against Lesbians-because I don't-HELL I've thought about it myself lol I was just disappointed that she thought so little of me-but now I can see Supa's point wink


I'm a grown man and I'm just coming around to telling my grandma. I've been out for 20 years! lol
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Reply #20 posted 10/02/08 5:31pm

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ZombieKitten said:

sextonseven said:

Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.


My friend Pam said the same thing, she was married and has 2 (now grown) kids. She was attracted to women all along, but never pursued it until she was 100% sure men weren't for her - unfortunately it took her a long time dead


That's different. Your friend was attracted to women all along. What if this other person had met a very nice man that treated her like a queen. Would she still come out as a lesbian?
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Reply #21 posted 10/02/08 5:31pm

nurseV

sextonseven said:

Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.



Well, she has been physically and mentally abused-she is very attractive, but I don't know why she just wouldn't ask for strength from God to get over it. I may be wrong but I don't think that's a valid reason to start dating the same sex shrug
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Reply #22 posted 10/02/08 5:32pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:



My friend Pam said the same thing, she was married and has 2 (now grown) kids. She was attracted to women all along, but never pursued it until she was 100% sure men weren't for her - unfortunately it took her a long time dead

sounds to me like the abuse is an excuse to justify the choice because I have been in horrid relationships and it didn't push me into the arms of a woman lol


OMG! lol
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Reply #23 posted 10/02/08 5:32pm

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nurseV said:

sextonseven said:

Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.



Well, she has been physically and mentally abused-she is very attractive, but I don't know why she just wouldn't ask for strength from God to get over it. I may be wrong but I don't think that's a valid reason to start dating the same sex shrug

A beaten dog won't trust most humans. Well maybe that's a bad analogy as you've never seen a dog dating a cat lol
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nurseV said:

sextonseven said:

Your friend is coming out as a lesbian not because she's attracted to women, but because she's tired of being treated like crap by men?

I'm with you. I don't understand that reason.



Well, she has been physically and mentally abused-she is very attractive, but I don't know why she just wouldn't ask for strength from God to get over it. I may be wrong but I don't think that's a valid reason to start dating the same sex shrug

Sounds more like bi-curious too me, you cant turn of your hetero-feelings can you?
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Reply #25 posted 10/02/08 5:34pm

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Gimmesomehorns said:

ZombieKitten said:



My friend Pam said the same thing, she was married and has 2 (now grown) kids. She was attracted to women all along, but never pursued it until she was 100% sure men weren't for her - unfortunately it took her a long time dead

But stating its because shes tired of beeing treated like crap is a bad excuse, dosent sound like a real lesbian too me.
At least shes bi, but tired of men.


My friend decided to come out and live her life the way that was best for her. She is 65 now, she could never have come out in the 60s confused she didn't DECIDE to become a lesbian, she was one all along.
I don't doubt NurseV's friend has always been BI. I guess she has just made a choice now shrug and her unfortunate relationships with men have been the catalyst.
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Reply #26 posted 10/02/08 5:37pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

nurseV said:




Well, she has been physically and mentally abused-she is very attractive, but I don't know why she just wouldn't ask for strength from God to get over it. I may be wrong but I don't think that's a valid reason to start dating the same sex shrug

A beaten dog won't trust most humans. Well maybe that's a bad analogy as you've never seen a dog dating a cat lol



Bad analogy lol but true
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Reply #27 posted 10/02/08 5:38pm

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nurseV said:

Okay-real talk here smile Some time ago my best friend told me that she was a lesbian eek She told me that she had been through so much with men and just got tired of being abused by them-that she chose to be with a woman. We'll that wasn't what bothered me-what really got me was that I was the last person she told sad She told me that she didn't want me to stop talking to her like some of her so called friends had done sad She said that she didn't know how to tell me-she told her parents and her daughter and it took them forever to accept her new life choice. I've known her since we were 12-she's 35 and I'm 36 she's like my little sister. I can honestly say that I don't understand her reason for being Lesbian, but I am trying wink (Please don't be mad at me for this and I don't mean to offend). It really still hurts me that she thought that I would not love her anymore-we talk everyday, but I've never told her my feelings. What do you think? I'm I wrong for feeling this way? Should I be more supportive? Please help me understand a little better wink


well, if it's clear to her that you wouldn't understand why someone would have a "reason" for being gay, you're going to have to understand that your position on the matter doesn't exactly make it easy for a person to come out of the closet to you.

it's hard enough coming out to people who are completely understanding.

i think you need to just appreciate that the process is not easy for her and quit personalizing the fact that you weren't the first person she told. if it's hard for you to accept and if she knows you well at all, she probably knew you would be a tough nut to crack. so own your problems with acceptance and realize that the issues you have with homosexuality probably knocked you down a few pegs on the "people to tell" list.

but at least she told you. that's the important thing.

if you want to be supportive, you're going to have to work on your issues with understanding and acceptance. that, or else you're just going to have to tell her that you love her just the same, but you're probably not the best person for her to be open and candid with.
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Reply #28 posted 10/02/08 5:39pm

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Gimmesomehorns said:

nurseV said:




Well, she has been physically and mentally abused-she is very attractive, but I don't know why she just wouldn't ask for strength from God to get over it. I may be wrong but I don't think that's a valid reason to start dating the same sex shrug

Sounds more like bi-curious too me, you cant turn of your hetero-feelings can you?


I don't know if she was bi-curious, but she did tell me that while she was in Atlanta she dated men and also went to gay and lesbian bars-so maybe she was just feeling her way lol
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Reply #29 posted 10/02/08 5:39pm

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also:

it's not a choice, unless you consider honesty a choice.

which, i guess, you can fool yourself into believing, but a point always comes when honesty is no longer a choice and you have to face up to who you are.

something to think about. shrug
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