IceNine said:

the dye has been cast...
i don't pretend to know whut will cure the ills of our society.
as i look at the later post, and esspeacially reading 4LOVE's post i see that there is not just the NEED here
in america, but it is world wide.
these things have been going on forever
the TANG, TRIADs, YAKUZA, MAFIA theses are just a few
of the better known criminal elements that have been in play for , i dare say, CENTURIES.
capitolizim is the way of the world, thus it creates CLASSES. as long as there are CLASSES the will be strife.
as long as there is strife, there will be 'creative ways'
to overcome that strife.
i'm not religious, but i am under the impression that
we as a people need to first CHECK OUR SELVES, heal your
own wounds. then help heal those closest to you.
this thing of everone reachin out for THUGISM is only a
way that is bringing about a togetherness of all people.
TO CLARIFY...
more people are in tune to the plite of BLACKS IN AMERICA.
to that end they have seen the ways we have delt with our
advercities and most likely feel that TOTAL ANARCHY is the
only answer.
i do not condone murder in any form, but that won't stop it. murder is as much a way of life as death it's self.
1. spend money on education (schools)(teachers)
2.bring about a polocy for education in the prison system.
3.stop fuckin the lil people with taxes.
4. give a welfare family a 'lump sum and out' deal
(they did it for the vietnamese who came here fo sho)
i'm no economist, so i don't really have answers, but again
i don't see where it would be advantagious for this
gov. to do anything to FIX things. there money is made on the PLITE of IT'S PEOPLE...

Ok, I'll bite. Thugs or the thug life is nothing new. There have been thugs throughout history, but called different names (ie. Missionaries (The worst kind of thug),Mobsters). But it seems to be given a more negative connotation now that young black urbanites have become synomonous with a "thug". I despise thugs of any sort especially the young black kids.

It breaks my heart to see what has become of my young black brothers and sisters, as I know this is not their true nature. Black people by nature are peace loving people. These kids have been brainwashed into thinking that in order to make themselves heard they must imitate the brashness of the Al Capone syndrome, when in reality these kids are just confused.

I blame a lot of this on the parents (including all the single parent homes in which most of these kids were raised), on the media and the record companies for glorifying this type of behavior.

These kids are so confused they don't realize this is a trick that has worked twofold, by taking away their true nature which in turn leads to their enslavement and captivity.


It's a sad situation, but I feel a change coming alone,,,



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IceNine said:

These so-called "white" issues that you mention are only the very, very, very tip of the ice. The real problem with society now and in the last 400 years of so, is the white man's need to dominate because of his conscious and unconscious fear of annilation. He is afterall, a minority on this planet, and he doesn't realize that he can coexist on this earth with the rest of us in harmony. The white man is ruled by fear and is the earth's most longstanding thug.

I realize that this a very touchy subject, but it needs to be addressed and analyzed if this earth is to survive. We cannot continue to live like this.

People try to skate around this issue, make excuses, defend a lost cause or what have you, but in reality we all know why the world is in the shape that it is in and unless we face the facts and deal with it, this thread we're in will continue til the end of time, literally.

I know some people will call me a racist, I am not and I will not engage in a long drawn out debate to prove it. Seeing the world for what it is and stating the facts does not make me a racist, it makes me a realist.

Now Ice, if you truly want to know why society is the way that it is, check yourself in a mirror, what do you truly see?





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Thugs look stupid. I always see them all dressed up in colorful clothes bought from the gangster store owned by asians. Walking in the street talking on cell phones. I guess some girls like that.
Good topic Ice!

IceNine said:

If you identify with an historically opressed group, and you get two offers of power that look like this:

a)get a gun, show solidarity with fellow members of opressed group
or
b)work for years and years to get an education and then spend most of your time at a job, the majority of whom are the historical opressors

which is going to look better?


Doves,
Mel!ssa

tackam said:

And the tax burden doesn't make those years any more appealing, because suddenly you're "the rich!" And "the rich" must be soaked!!!

teller said:

you gotta be kiddin...
taxes for the rich, that's laughable.
funny how they use that shit to hold
americans hostage.
If you raise our taxes We'll leave the country.
whut the fuck ever.
however i look at regular people trying to make a living,
and they pray that they get paid by the week
so the taxes won't be so much

SweeTea said:

Goddamn!!!

00769BAD said:

Now that's what I'd call a silly