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PrintableZombieKitten said: Shorty said: so this is a new thing for her? I didn't mean she should get help cleaning...I mean she needs therapy. It seems perhaps your friend is NOT like the pictures above? I imagine if she were, those case workers would be taking that baby away from her. the excuses I'm talking about are the " I can't get rid of this or that because..." excuses. She needs to seek professional counceling...I'm glad she has friends like you who are willing to help but [b]I wonder if you all aren't just enabling her instead[b]. I really hope she gets the help she needs for the sake of that poor little baby and herself. I wondered that too at first I read up on it, apparently those folks who are basically forced to just get rid of everything, usually just start all over again as soon as they can. I'm no professional, but at least I can be a friend. I haven't actually read any success stories, sadly 
My friend wouldn't have opened her doors to anyone in the past, but she is now desperate for change. This person in the photos above probably doesn't want to change yet. Who knows? yeah...I don't think forcing someone to do anything is ever the right solution. Have you brought up therapy with her at all....maybe if she's ready for a change she'll be willing to accept she needs mental help. God help her, I never want anyone to loose their child but....I never want to see a child in squaller either. Good friends are hard to find, she's lucky to have you. 
One of my best friends when I was like 11 lived in a horribly disgusting house...I would sleep over there and everything too...it didn't really matter to me because I knew it was her parents not her that was the reason although her room was really BAD. Sometimes the smell was so bad I'd gag and nearly throw up entering her house....I saw how hard it was on her and her brothers....no one like them, they had a really rough time growing up.. and my other friends would wonder why I was friends with her...apparently liking her for her was a bizarre concept to most. "not a fan"  yeah...ok | |
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I know of a couple of success stories, both women got therapy and as far as I know are still in therapy. BUT both have relapsed also, so they have things in place, a housekeeper that comes over once or twice a week when they are not home, good meds, and really good support from friends and family.
It is a constant battle and is a disorder that is related to OCD or OCP, however there are some who have OCD that don't manifest in hoarding. Also there is a disoder called disposaphobia that I believe the person in these pictures may be suffering from this is a bit different than the typical hoarding. One more point--people with ADHD or Bipolor disoder can also become hoarders.  
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Shorty said: ZombieKitten said: I wondered that too at first I read up on it, apparently those folks who are basically forced to just get rid of everything, usually just start all over again as soon as they can. I'm no professional, but at least I can be a friend. I haven't actually read any success stories, sadly
My friend wouldn't have opened her doors to anyone in the past, but she is now desperate for change. This person in the photos above probably doesn't want to change yet. Who knows? yeah...I don't think forcing someone to do anything is ever the right solution. Have you brought up therapy with her at all....maybe if she's ready for a change she'll be willing to accept she needs mental help. God help her, I never want anyone to loose their child but....I never want to see a child in squaller either. Good friends are hard to find, she's lucky to have you.
One of my best friends when I was like 11 lived in a horribly disgusting house...I would sleep over there and everything too...it didn't really matter to me because I knew it was her parents not her that was the reason although her room was really BAD. Sometimes the smell was so bad I'd gag and nearly throw up entering her house....I saw how hard it was on her and her brothers....no one like them, they had a really rough time growing up.. and my other friends would wonder why I was friends with her...apparently liking her for her was a bizarre concept to most. yeah 
those kids need support networks of their own, they grow up in total shame. My friend called me today to announce her kitchen has been cleared - she has a floor under there! And they are nearly ready to move back into the bedroom! For at least 2 years she has slept on the small floorspace available in her loungeroom. I think she is making progress. | |
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MoniGram said: OMG!! That bathroom makes me sick!!!
 That person needs those two British ladies to come over and teach that person how to clean!!!   I know exactly which two ladies you are referring to (from the cable show "How Clean Is Your House"):
I like how they gently chastise someone when the person's home that they are cleaning makes excuses.
If the person does not live in the U.K. then they need the team from the cable show, "Clean House" with Ms. Niecy Nash: 
She also gets real and puts the smackdown on folks for their "foolishness and mayhem!" Seriously though, that house either needs to be cleaned up or condemned as unlivable. Can you imagine the germs that must be in that house??  [Edited 9/27/08 6:40am] RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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 Looks like a scene from House Party: The Morning After | |
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The place needs to be stripped down to the bare walls and the looney-lady needs to be hosed down & hospitalized. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Shorty said: yeah...I don't think forcing someone to do anything is ever the right solution. Have you brought up therapy with her at all....maybe if she's ready for a change she'll be willing to accept she needs mental help. God help her, I never want anyone to loose their child but....I never want to see a child in squaller either. Good friends are hard to find, she's lucky to have you.
One of my best friends when I was like 11 lived in a horribly disgusting house...I would sleep over there and everything too...it didn't really matter to me because I knew it was her parents not her that was the reason although her room was really BAD. Sometimes the smell was so bad I'd gag and nearly throw up entering her house....I saw how hard it was on her and her brothers....no one like them, they had a really rough time growing up.. and my other friends would wonder why I was friends with her...apparently liking her for her was a bizarre concept to most. yeah
those kids need support networks of their own, they grow up in total shame. My friend called me today to announce her kitchen has been cleared - she has a floor under there! And they are nearly ready to move back into the bedroom! For at least 2 years she has slept on the small floorspace available in her loungeroom. I think she is making progress. WOW! that's great! I hope she beats the odds. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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