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Thread started 09/16/08 3:33am

manki

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American coffee

Now I've been wondering this for some time.
How come that the coffee served in USA is so
watered down?

I tried the "Starbucks" coffee and that is much stronger
than the average coffee you get at café's & restaurants.

Most americans I've asked saying they like their coffee strong,
like it is on "Starbucks".

So,what do y'all think? Is the average coffee in the states too weak,
or do you actually prefer that before the stronger coffee.

Myself I prefer my coffee superstrong & superblack.
Just like I make it at home.So that' what I'm used too.
Whenever I try the average coffee in USA the taste of water
is always more dominant than the actual coffee taste.

Why is it like that folks? lol
/peace Manki
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Reply #1 posted 09/16/08 3:49am

3121

I do know that Coffee is the second biggest selling commodity in the world after oil. However, that is all i know because i drink green tea personally.
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Reply #2 posted 09/16/08 3:52am

alwayslate

Personally I don't care for coffee that I need to consume with a knife and fork but Starbucks is weak to me also. I like the coffee at 7-eleven or McDonalds; not too strong, not too weak. And it is wayyyy less expensive than Starbucks.
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Reply #3 posted 09/16/08 3:58am

3121

alwayslate said:

Personally I don't care for coffee that I need to consume with a knife and fork but Starbucks is weak to me also. I like the coffee at 7-eleven or McDonalds; not too strong, not too weak. And it is wayyyy less expensive than Starbucks.


So your not gonna be changing your name to alwayslatte anytime soon then?
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Reply #4 posted 09/16/08 4:09am

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Ah delicious coffee. American coffee is watery though boxed simply because of what my "abuelita" taught me. Coffee will taste like its filter. If your filter is a fresh sheet of paper every time you brew, it will taste like the filter. The convo came up when I was young looking at her making coffee with some sorta weird sock looking thing (colador) that was made out of linen but blackened by the coffee she would pour into it.I tried to wash it with soap one day and she scolded me...
Buelita (great aunt Anna): "Only rinse it with hot water to remove the grounds, I don't want my coffee to taste like soap."

Me:"But it looks like a gross dirty brown sock" feeling ill

Buelita: "Its supposed to look like that because it taste like the coffee, so when I filter my coffee with it, my coffee will taste like coffee and not paper".

She always made THE best coffee, so I took her advice and learned from it. Now I use a stovetop coffee maker, but I always rinse it after using it with water only, not a bunch of soap, and my coffee taste like coffee. No matter what brand coffee I use (usually espresso ground blue mountain coffee from Jamaica or Bustello {substitute})



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Reply #5 posted 09/16/08 5:48am

dustysgirl

My coffee I make at home is perfect. I only use whole beans that I usually buy out of town. Currently I'm buying beans from a roaster in upper Michigan. I grind them right before brewing and make the coffee in my French Press. Nothing compares to it. The best coffee ever.
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Reply #6 posted 09/16/08 6:06am

pardonme4livin

I have acquired a taste for coffee in my 30's....I guess most restaurants have watered down joe...but I don't want really strong coffee either....I wanna taste it...not smell like it for the whole day....
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Reply #7 posted 09/16/08 6:22am

CarrieLee

Of course it's going to taste watered down to people who do not live here. We're not accustomed to drinking espresso all day.

Gimme a medium iced coffee with skim milk and two splenda woot!
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Reply #8 posted 09/16/08 7:00am

Anxiety

i dunno. it's all we've got to go by, i guess.

i can tolerate diner coffee, but i know it's cheap and weak. i can't really "taste the water" like you say, but i can always taste when coffee is stale and/or weak.

i like starbucks just fine too, but of course it's not as good as the stuff we brew at home.

i can do 7-11 coffee in a pinch, but it's typically stale or burnt or both. i HATE caribou coffee - there's something nasty and acidic tasting about it.

manki, you should try cafe vivace in seattle if you ever get a chance. their lattes are so amazing, i can't have lattes anywhere else without remembering how much better they CAN be.
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Reply #9 posted 09/16/08 6:30pm

alwayslate

3121 said:

alwayslate said:

Personally I don't care for coffee that I need to consume with a knife and fork but Starbucks is weak to me also. I like the coffee at 7-eleven or McDonalds; not too strong, not too weak. And it is wayyyy less expensive than Starbucks.


So your not gonna be changing your name to alwayslatte anytime soon then?

lol good one.
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Reply #10 posted 09/16/08 7:31pm

kimrachell

i NEVER liked coffee until i drank it in brazil, i got really spoiled there! now i have to buy my coffee special @ a brazil market.
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Reply #11 posted 09/16/08 7:39pm

Stymie

lol Didn't you and I just have this conversation outside of Borders on Sunday? wink

I agree with you: European coffee does not fuck around. The only coffee I drink here is Starbucks or the stuff I make in the office which is 2 scoops per pot. Everyone in the office is like this after drinking it: eek but they dig it. lol
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Reply #12 posted 09/16/08 7:40pm

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paintedlady said:

Ah delicious coffee. American coffee is watery though boxed simply because of what my "abuelita" taught me. Coffee will taste like its filter. If your filter is a fresh sheet of paper every time you brew, it will taste like the filter. The convo came up when I was young looking at her making coffee with some sorta weird sock looking thing (colador) that was made out of linen but blackened by the coffee she would pour into it.I tried to wash it with soap one day and she scolded me...
Buelita (great aunt Anna): "Only rinse it with hot water to remove the grounds, I don't want my coffee to taste like soap."

Me:"But it looks like a gross dirty brown sock" feeling ill

Buelita: "Its supposed to look like that because it taste like the coffee, so when I filter my coffee with it, my coffee will taste like coffee and not paper".

She always made THE best coffee, so I took her advice and learned from it. Now I use a stovetop coffee maker, but I always rinse it after using it with water only, not a bunch of soap, and my coffee taste like coffee. No matter what brand coffee I use (usually espresso ground blue mountain coffee from Jamaica or Bustello {substitute})




YES!!!!!
lol
Growing up, we always had a can of Bustelo (unless a relative had flown up and given us 100lbs of Honduran coffee!) and coffee was made either with the "colador" (the sock thingy) or the espresso pot in your picture.
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When the in-laws are in town, my wife makes them their cafe-con-leche by brewing the coffee American-style but then pouring it into a pan of milk on the stovetop, stirring in lots of sugar.
drool
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Reply #13 posted 09/16/08 7:41pm

IAintTheOne

It's about this
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Reply #14 posted 09/16/08 8:09pm

PurpleJedi

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IAintTheOne said:

It's about this


bow YES!!!!!
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Reply #15 posted 09/16/08 8:18pm

paintedlady

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PurpleJedi said:

IAintTheOne said:

It's about this


bow YES!!!!!

You two would love the Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee, its even smoother than our beloved Bustello.

Bustello coffee is the truth. coffee People rave when I make them a cup. nod
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Reply #16 posted 09/16/08 8:23pm

PurpleJedi

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paintedlady said:

PurpleJedi said:



bow YES!!!!!

You two would love the Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee, its even smoother than our beloved Bustello.

Bustello coffee is the truth. coffee People rave when I make them a cup. nod


hmm When I worked at Macy's they used to sell Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee...this was 15 years ago, and it was $40 a pound! I can only imagine how much it costs today.
Where do you even get the stuff anyway? (the REAL Jamaican stuff, not Folgers)
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PurpleJedi said:

paintedlady said:


You two would love the Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee, its even smoother than our beloved Bustello.

Bustello coffee is the truth. coffee People rave when I make them a cup. nod


hmm When I worked at Macy's they used to sell Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee...this was 15 years ago, and it was $40 a pound! I can only imagine how much it costs today.
Where do you even get the stuff anyway? (the REAL Jamaican stuff, not Folgers)


I buy it online, shits pricey oh and they sell it in REALLY small bags in the stores in the Chestnut Hill mall. $$$ its a treat for me. Its close to $60.00/lb now.
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Reply #18 posted 09/16/08 9:07pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

I cant bare the stuff served in most restaurants and cafes... its watered down crap.... give me good ol espresso in that case. I don't complain, I simply put the watery stuff down and leave it to rot.
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Reply #19 posted 09/16/08 10:19pm

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paintedlady said:

Ah delicious coffee. American coffee is watery though boxed simply because of what my "abuelita" taught me. Coffee will taste like its filter. If your filter is a fresh sheet of paper every time you brew, it will taste like the filter. The convo came up when I was young looking at her making coffee with some sorta weird sock looking thing (colador) that was made out of linen but blackened by the coffee she would pour into it.I tried to wash it with soap one day and she scolded me...
Buelita (great aunt Anna): "Only rinse it with hot water to remove the grounds, I don't want my coffee to taste like soap."

Me:"But it looks like a gross dirty brown sock" feeling ill

Buelita: "Its supposed to look like that because it taste like the coffee, so when I filter my coffee with it, my coffee will taste like coffee and not paper".

She always made THE best coffee, so I took her advice and learned from it. Now I use a stovetop coffee maker, but I always rinse it after using it with water only, not a bunch of soap, and my coffee taste like coffee. No matter what brand coffee I use (usually espresso ground blue mountain coffee from Jamaica or Bustello {substitute})



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Thanks for posting that! I'm going to take that advice to heart! I was always washing with dish soap as well... but once a week. lol
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Reply #20 posted 09/16/08 10:25pm

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I don't know Magnus? But I like weak coffee, it does not taste like liquid ash tray, so much. wink
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Reply #21 posted 09/17/08 4:12am

ZombieKitten

Hi Manki! wave

I don't drink coffee, but I remember when my mum tried McDonalds coffee she was all like barf
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Reply #22 posted 09/17/08 5:20am

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Moonstar319 said:

paintedlady said:

Ah delicious coffee. American coffee is watery though boxed simply because of what my "abuelita" taught me. Coffee will taste like its filter. If your filter is a fresh sheet of paper every time you brew, it will taste like the filter. The convo came up when I was young looking at her making coffee with some sorta weird sock looking thing (colador) that was made out of linen but blackened by the coffee she would pour into it.I tried to wash it with soap one day and she scolded me...
Buelita (great aunt Anna): "Only rinse it with hot water to remove the grounds, I don't want my coffee to taste like soap."

Me:"But it looks like a gross dirty brown sock" feeling ill

Buelita: "Its supposed to look like that because it taste like the coffee, so when I filter my coffee with it, my coffee will taste like coffee and not paper".

She always made THE best coffee, so I took her advice and learned from it. Now I use a stovetop coffee maker, but I always rinse it after using it with water only, not a bunch of soap, and my coffee taste like coffee. No matter what brand coffee I use (usually espresso ground blue mountain coffee from Jamaica or Bustello {substitute})



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Thanks for posting that! I'm going to take that advice to heart! I was always washing with dish soap as well... but once a week. lol


Yeah, I wash it with soap like every once in a blue moon or just to clean the rubber ring inside.
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Reply #23 posted 09/17/08 5:40am

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pardonme4livin said:

I have acquired a taste for coffee in my 30's....I guess most restaurants have watered down joe...but I don't want really strong coffee either....I wanna taste it...not smell like it for the whole day....

ok I have heard this before ..cupa joe ...but what the hell is it ....who is bloody joe lol and what does it taste like lol
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Reply #24 posted 09/17/08 8:38am

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Ocean said:

pardonme4livin said:

I have acquired a taste for coffee in my 30's....I guess most restaurants have watered down joe...but I don't want really strong coffee either....I wanna taste it...not smell like it for the whole day....

ok I have heard this before ..cupa joe ...but what the hell is it ....who is bloody joe lol and what does it taste like lol


Joe is slang for java...which is also slang for coffee.
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Reply #25 posted 09/17/08 10:45am

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I have no idea about anyone else but, I could not start my day without a good ole cup of iced-coffee from Starbucks!

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Reply #26 posted 09/17/08 12:42pm

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Peet's Coffee rules if you're from the Bay...


or Dallmayr Prodomo if you're in Germany...
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Reply #27 posted 09/17/08 12:46pm

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Americans that I know who've been in Sweden go omfg when they taste our coffee but once they taste it a couple times they go back and make the same strength themselves. We're slowly but surely infecting the US with Scandinavian strength coffee! evillol
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Reply #28 posted 09/17/08 12:51pm

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Coffee shops, ironically, have terrible coffee! But with the popularity of coffee houses (starbucks, Peets, etc) everywhere else is gradually catching up. But it's shocking, sometimes I go somewhere and can't find any good coffee!! It happened in Puerta Vallerta, and it happens in the US.

Also, keep in mind that older folks have been drinking watery coffee for years and don't want to drink black syrup that will get them all hopped up on caffeine. I like strong coffee, but I think weak coffee should still be available.

But typically I make my own.
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Reply #29 posted 09/17/08 1:20pm

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RenHoek said:


Dallmayr Prodomo if you're in Germany...



drool


i miss this coffee... we have a german shop here that carries it.. my friend used to get it at the base for me as well...

from what i was told americans by the crap of the coffee beans the low grade beans.. that is why the coffee is not as good here...
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