Ottensen said:

I've had two encounters with this. The first time was on a business trip in Paris, over 10 years ago. I was with my boss on an international salesmeeting. At night we hit the city and ended up in a pick-up bar. There, one of my american colleagues was very busy talking to one of the girls and I told my boss that he was going to take this girl back to his hotel-room. My boss, knowing the guy well and stating that he was married and stuff, said that this would never happen so I placed the bet. If I would lose I'd have to pay a bottle of Champagne at the bar, if I'd win my boss would pay me a girl for the night.....half an hour later the three of us were sitiing in the hooker's car on our way to the hotel and she asked my boss and me if she had to call one of her friends for either one of us. My boss told her to do so for me. This girl was later waiting for me at the elevator in the hotel-lobby. Beautiful young french girl (I was 26 at the time) and we had some fun, she was cute and nice.

The second time was an ordinary red-light thing in Amsterdam and it was pretty awful. A buddy & me had been drinking and ended up in that area. The red-lights of Amsterdam are very much awful.....he wanted to go, I went along. We negotiated at the door and we each took a room with a girl..... I hated it, it was awkard and nasty. Paid the 50 euros and she went to work. It took her too long she said (we had some serious drinking done) and demanded more money....paid another 20 and withing 3 strokes it was done..... I didn't know how to get out as fast as possible.....hated it!

MuthaFunka said:

*cough*midlife crisis*cough*

if by game, you mean charming your way in and out of people's bed's then you are paying for sex too, maybe not with cash, but with your soul..

so you get georgia'd like the rest of them

eraclito said:

Wrong! Anyone that gives up MONEY for sex is either desperate, no game, or has a sex addiction. So please, spare me with that "emotional cash" bullshit .

MuthaFunka said:

But then how do you explain legalized, socially accepted prostitution across western Europe? The attitude towards expressing sexuality doesn't carry the same judgements and social stigmas here.

Ottensen said:

But just because it's "socially accepted" anywhere doesn't mean the 3 reasons I stated aren't true.

eraclito said:

Wrong! Anyone that gives up MONEY for sex is either desperate, no game, or has a sex addiction. So please, spare me with that "emotional cash" bullshit .

MuthaFunka said:

I was just curious.....

abierman said:

You got scolded by Ocean & MF.....

MuthaFunka said:

You never spent loot on a female(dinner, gifts, etc.) in the hopes of getting some?

I agree with Ottensen - Europe has it right when it comes to attitudes about sex.

If it was someone/something I really wanted and that was my only way, yes.

How about if we have been paid?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

C'mon, Soop! You got game, right? Talk-up on the booty! If you have to exchange currency for sex - IT AIN'T WORTH IT OR IT JUST WASN'T MEANT TO BE! Go home! Leave! Come back tomorrow with better game!

MuthaFunka said:

Oh I got game but if someone loves a hairy brute, I aint it!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Ah! The ole double-standard for men and women comes into play here!

MuthaFunka said:

I've been paid 3 times! And none of the times was I workin the streets

uPtoWnNY said:

If I'm a date with a chick and I'm feeling her, and I have HOPES of getting the drawers, I will "act accordingly" to try and set that up = Game . See, so, "in the hopes of getting some ass" isn't the same as "actually exchanging/paying out money for pussy" . When you solely go out seeking a hooker and you exchange money for sex = 1 - No game. 2 - Desperate. 3 - Sex addiction.

MuthaFunka said:

Whatever Boo, I've traveled to and lived in too many countries now over the last 16 years, and not every culture fits into your paradigm. I've seen hookers and johns in Rome, Paris, Tokyo (and yes Abierman!) Amsterdam... we have nudity & sex on normal tv, with very open sexual attitudes and behaviors. It's pretty uninformed to try to lock global human sexuality into your tight little box as defined by Puritanical American mores.

MuthaFunka said:

Whatever Boo, I've traveled to and lived in too many countries now over the last 16 years, and not every culture fits into your paradigm. I've seen hookers and johns in Rome, Paris, Tokyo (and yes Abierman!) Amsterdam... we have nudity & sex on normal tv, with very open sexual attitudes and behaviors. It's pretty uninformed to try to lock global human sexuality into your tight little box as defined by Puritanical American mores.

And from the looks and "vibe" of some of these responses, I can tell who had to "pay" for some ass .

MuthaFunka said:

you've got it all worked out for everyone, huh?? I dare to say that you don't know what the hell you are talking about, but nevermind.....

And from the looks and "vibe" of some of these responses, I can tell who had to "pay" for some ass .

MuthaFunka said:

you've got it all worked out for everyone, huh?? I dare to say that you don't know what the hell you are talking about, but nevermind.....

for LL Cool J and a couple others hell yeah

abierman said:

Well I'm still a newbie in this department. I never had to pay. ..... Just yet

abierman said:

Well I'm still a newbie in this department. I never had to pay. ..... Just yet