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Reply #30 posted 09/09/08 7:28pm

papaaisaway

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JerseyKRS said:

meow85 said:



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I read an article not too long ago about how the "porn" culture of today is affecting young peoples' sexual behaviour. More and more, it seems, young women will readily perform oral sex without expecting oral in return from their partners. Why? Because it's not expected in porn.


woot!



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Reply #31 posted 09/09/08 7:38pm

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Byron said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Sure, pornography can be degrading, even evil, but it can also help marriages, help sexual self esteem and even curb crime like rape.


Pornography can curb rape?...That's the first I've ever heard of that. Rape is more about power than anything...I'm not sure how pornography helps to curb that.


It's been said time and time and time again that there is no correlation between the two whatsoever.
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Reply #32 posted 09/09/08 7:39pm

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Stymie said:

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from the pornos i've watched, i think the majorioty of these movies are made for men, by men, to help men get off.

hmmm. any ORGers want to start a women-oriented porno company? where the scenes involve a lot of cuddling on the sofa during the movie, followed by ots of nice, slow touching, a relaxed transition to the bed or the kitchen table, and twenty minutes of how do you want it darling??? big grin
There is a woman's porn company already.


Ya, and it totally sucks - as in horrible.
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Reply #33 posted 09/09/08 7:55pm

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JustErin said:

Stymie said:

There is a woman's porn company already.


Ya, and it totally sucks - as in horrible.



See ? You prove my points.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #34 posted 09/09/08 7:58pm

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KoolEaze said:

JustErin said:



Ya, and it totally sucks - as in horrible.



See ? You prove my points.


They will probably just come back saying that I am just conditioned by watching porn that's geared to men. lol
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Reply #35 posted 09/09/08 8:05pm

Imago

Degrading to women?

The only thing degrading about straight mainstream porn is that these women have to fuck such ugly men.

They should really do porn where gay porn stars fuck women. (if they don't already). That shit would sell like hotcakes.
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Reply #36 posted 09/09/08 9:30pm

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BUT THEN...

They wouldn't be gay would they?

Imago said:

Degrading to women?

The only thing degrading about straight mainstream porn is that these women have to fuck such ugly men.

They should really do porn where gay porn stars fuck women. (if they don't already). That shit would sell like hotcakes.
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Reply #37 posted 09/09/08 10:19pm

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papaaisaway said:

BUT THEN...

They wouldn't be gay would they?

Imago said:

Degrading to women?

The only thing degrading about straight mainstream porn is that these women have to fuck such ugly men.

They should really do porn where gay porn stars fuck women. (if they don't already). That shit would sell like hotcakes.


Gay men have been having sex with straight women in real life for centuries so they could do it in porn too.
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Reply #38 posted 09/09/08 11:23pm

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NO DOUBT

But if these men are having sex with women they're not exactly gay are they.

sextonseven said:

papaaisaway said:

BUT THEN...

They wouldn't be gay would they?



Gay men have been having sex with straight women in real life for centuries so they could do it in porn too.
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Reply #39 posted 09/09/08 11:33pm

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And I understand that but most of the women I watch in porn do it of their own volition.


don't get me wrong, a woman can make a LOT of money doing porn. it can be a stepping stone to a better life. but i don't think those women are the majority.


wow. you really seem passionate about this issue, X.

hey, btw, i looking for some aerobic instructors for a gym i'm starting up. i was wondering if you were interested. the interview should only take 4 mins. smile
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Reply #40 posted 09/10/08 12:31am

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papaaisaway said:

NO DOUBT

But if these men are having sex with women they're not exactly gay are they.

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Gay men have been having sex with straight women in real life for centuries so they could do it in porn too.


They'd be doing it for pay, not because they really like it.
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Reply #41 posted 09/10/08 7:41pm

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Ace, so you are right wing, no wonder you are so unimformed.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #42 posted 09/10/08 8:14pm

Ace

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Ace, so you are right wing, no wonder you are so unimformed.

Setting aside your contention that I'm "unimformed", why do you think that I'm right-wing? Because I think that radical left-wingers are full of shit?
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Reply #43 posted 09/10/08 8:19pm

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I SEE

OK, I'm a heterosexual male. So if I do a guy in the ass for cash money, I'm still straight? I'm not gay? You mean I would have to enjoy the experience for it be considered gay? It's still my schlong in his poor ass, right?



sextonseven said:

papaaisaway said:

NO DOUBT

But if these men are having sex with women they're not exactly gay are they.



They'd be doing it for pay, not because they really like it.
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Reply #44 posted 09/10/08 9:01pm

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papaaisaway said:

I SEE

OK, I'm a heterosexual male. So if I do a guy in the ass for cash money, I'm still straight? I'm not gay? You mean I would have to enjoy the experience for it be considered gay? It's still my schlong in his poor ass, right?



sextonseven said:



They'd be doing it for pay, not because they really like it.


It's all about what turns you on, what you're thinking about at the moment. You can be doing some dude, but if you're imagining he's Jessica Alba then you're straight.

But I follow the belief that everyone is bi to some degree anyway.
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Reply #45 posted 09/11/08 2:18am

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KoolEaze said:

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I'd dispute that gorgeous porn women thing, but there's no mistake there's something weird going on with central casting at the porn studios when it coems to the male stars. Half have beer guts, and the half that don't are old.

The only attractive male porn stars are doing gay porn. Go figure. razz



Sooooo not true ! lol

I used to work in a porn shop. I've seen quite a lot of porn. Do you have a secret stash somewhere of straight porn with men that aren't disgusting?
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Reply #46 posted 09/11/08 2:21am

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KoolEaze said:

meow85 said:


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Porn, in and of itself, is not sexist or degrading toward women. But it too easily can be, and I've seen a lot of it that crosses the line.

There is also the issue of heterosexual porn so rarely being focused on the woman's/women's pleasure. I know the market is largely men, but honestly. He gets 10 minutes of knob slobbing, and she gets a nipple tweak? Something's off balance here. razz



True but.....believe or not, some women rather like it rough and prefer that kind of rough and dirty porn as opposed to porn specifically geared toward a female audience. It all depends.


Rough and dirty sex is great! But not when the entire thing is some woman or women in service to some dude's weenie, and she gets nothing in return.

I'm not sure what you mean by "porn geared at a female audience". confuse
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Reply #47 posted 09/11/08 2:58am

Anxiety

by "noam chomsky downs pornography", does this mean he "downs" it the way a farmboy "downs" a glass jug of fresh milk? if so, then OM NOAM NOAM to him!
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Reply #48 posted 09/11/08 2:59am

JasmineFire

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by "noam chomsky downs pornography", does this mean he "downs" it the way a farmboy "downs" a glass jug of fresh milk? if so, then OM NOAM NOAM to him!

that is what the thread title sounds like. lol
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Reply #49 posted 09/11/08 3:02am

Anxiety

JasmineFire said:

Anxiety said:

by "noam chomsky downs pornography", does this mean he "downs" it the way a farmboy "downs" a glass jug of fresh milk? if so, then OM NOAM NOAM to him!

that is what the thread title sounds like. lol


"downing" something is maybe not the best terminology to use with regards to pornography. call me a prude!
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Reply #50 posted 09/11/08 3:05am

Stymie

meow85 said:

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Sooooo not true ! lol

I used to work in a porn shop. I've seen quite a lot of porn. Do you have a secret stash somewhere of straight porn with men that aren't disgusting?
God you kill me. falloff
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Reply #51 posted 09/11/08 3:05am

JasmineFire

Anxiety said:

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that is what the thread title sounds like. lol


"downing" something is maybe not the best terminology to use with regards to pornography. call me a prude!

true. for a minute there i thought this thread was about Noam Chomsky becoming a porn star. confused I wouldn't want to imagine the "Chomsky Slap". shake
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Reply #52 posted 09/11/08 3:06am

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Stymie said:

meow85 said:


I used to work in a porn shop. I've seen quite a lot of porn. Do you have a secret stash somewhere of straight porn with men that aren't disgusting?
God you kill me. falloff

razz
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Reply #53 posted 09/11/08 3:08am

Anxiety

JasmineFire said:

Anxiety said:



"downing" something is maybe not the best terminology to use with regards to pornography. call me a prude!

true. for a minute there i thought this thread was about Noam Chomsky becoming a porn star. confused I wouldn't want to imagine the "Chomsky Slap". shake


ewww, that sounds like something you'd get in a deli. "chomsky slap on a hoagie (with pickle spear)" ill
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Reply #54 posted 09/11/08 3:10am

Stymie

Anxiety said:

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true. for a minute there i thought this thread was about Noam Chomsky becoming a porn star. confused I wouldn't want to imagine the "Chomsky Slap". shake


ewww, that sounds like something you'd get in a deli. "chomsky slap on a hoagie (with pickle spear)" ill
whathafuck? falloff
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Reply #55 posted 09/11/08 3:10am

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Anxiety said:

JasmineFire said:


true. for a minute there i thought this thread was about Noam Chomsky becoming a porn star. confused I wouldn't want to imagine the "Chomsky Slap". shake


ewww, that sounds like something you'd get in a deli. "chomsky slap on a hoagie (with pickle spear)" ill

yuck. like a nasty gross deli where the bags of chips have dust on them.
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Reply #56 posted 09/11/08 3:12am

Anxiety

JasmineFire said:

Anxiety said:



ewww, that sounds like something you'd get in a deli. "chomsky slap on a hoagie (with pickle spear)" ill

yuck. like a nasty gross deli where the bags of chips have dust on them.


exactly. and the coleslaw they serve as garnish always has a brownish tint. boxed
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Reply #57 posted 09/11/08 3:14am

JasmineFire

Anxiety said:

JasmineFire said:


yuck. like a nasty gross deli where the bags of chips have dust on them.


exactly. and the coleslaw they serve as garnish always has a brownish tint. boxed

and the man who makes the sandwich had dirty nails and doesn't wear any gloves. confused
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Reply #58 posted 09/11/08 3:14am

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XxAxX said:

2freaky4church1 said:

I was going to post this on the politics forum, but since this is about porn and what Chomsky thought about it. Noam Chomsky, by the way is the major left intellectual in the world. Here, I disagree slightly with his critique. Sure, pornography can be degrading, even evil, but it can also help marriages, help sexual self esteem and even curb crime like rape.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...NlRoaFTHuE



it CAN help but it can also foster a lot of misconceptions. for example, 1) sex takes under four minutes;



what? where do you get your porn? i hate fast forwarding. mad
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #59 posted 09/11/08 3:45am

Stymie

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XxAxX said:




it CAN help but it can also foster a lot of misconceptions. for example, 1) sex takes under four minutes;



what? where do you get your porn? i hate fast forwarding. mad
For real. Is what she seeing like Porn For dummies or Porn Cliffnotes? The stuff I watch, the scenes are at least twenty minutes long.
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