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PrintableGraycap23 said: Byron said: Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. Humans don't do well with the truth. LoL...very true. We also don't do well with the responsibilities of being truthful, either. One encourages the other...kind of a chicken/egg thing.  | |
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Byron said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Not necessarily so. A man might not mention it because he doesn't even know she would flip out about what he does with his body. I think that can be a problem if his hand replaces her but some women have problems even if they are having a very healthy sex life. Well then he's not being dishonest in that case. And yeah, there ARE some women (maybe even some men) who think that masturbation is in some way a deviance from loving her  ...they might take it to equating it to cheating, instead of just incorporating it into their sex life lol...A man, or woman, is not obligated to divulge their mastubatory habits IMO. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Graycap23 said: Byron said: Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. Humans don't do well with the truth. Oh well, too bad, so sad. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Byron said: Well then he's not being dishonest in that case. And yeah, there ARE some women (maybe even some men) who think that masturbation is in some way a deviance from loving her ...they might take it to equating it to cheating, instead of just incorporating it into their sex life lol...A man, or woman, is not obligated to divulge their mastubatory habits IMO. That's why I said the guy wasn't being dishonest if he merely felt that his partner would have no issue with him doing so occasionally. | |
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Byron said: Graycap23 said: Humans don't do well with the truth. LoL...very true. We also don't do well with the responsibilities of being truthful, either. One encourages the other...kind of a chicken/egg thing. Truthfulness is overrated. Example: The wife is in a great mood and is getting dressed 4 an event that the both of u are about 2 attend. While getting dressed she asks u how dinner was. U know full well that u did not care 4 her cooking that night and if u tell her the truth, u will ruin her mood and the evening. Which is the better answer? Honey, dinner was good or honey, I really did NOT like that dinner? | |
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Graycap23 said: Byron said: LoL...very true. We also don't do well with the responsibilities of being truthful, either. One encourages the other...kind of a chicken/egg thing. Truthfulness is overrated. Example: The wife is in a great mood and is getting dressed 4 an event that the both of u are about 2 attend. While getting dressed she asks u how dinner was. U know full well that u did not care 4 her cooking that night and if u tell her the truth, u will ruin her mood and the evening. Which is the better answer? Honey, dinner was good or honey, I really did NOT like that dinner?
so many times people do not want to hear the truth even when they say they do. | |
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horatio said: Graycap23 said: Truthfulness is overrated. Example: The wife is in a great mood and is getting dressed 4 an event that the both of u are about 2 attend. While getting dressed she asks u how dinner was. U know full well that u did not care 4 her cooking that night and if u tell her the truth, u will ruin her mood and the evening. Which is the better answer? Honey, dinner was good or honey, I really did NOT like that dinner?
so many times people do not want to hear the truth even when they say they do. Exactly right. | |
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horatio said: http://www.newscientist.c...ad_dn14641
Monogamy gene found in people 22:00 01 September 2008 NewScientist.com news service Priya Shetty What if you could tell whether a man is husband material just by peering at his genes? There has been speculation about the role of the hormone vasopressin in humans ever since we discovered that variations in where receptors for the hormone are expressed makes prairie voles strictly monogamous but meadow voles promiscuous; vasopressin is related to the "cuddle chemical" oxytocin. Now it seems variations in a section of the gene coding for a vasopressin receptor in people help to determine whether men are serial commitment-phobes or devoted husbands. Hasse Walum at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, and colleagues looked at the various forms of the gene coding for a vasopressin receptor in 552 Swedish people, who were all in heterosexual partnerships. The researchers also investigated the quality of their relationships. They found that variation in a section of the gene called RS3 334 was linked to how men bond with their partners. Men can have none, one or two copies of the RS3 334 section, and the higher the number of copies, the worse men scored on a measure of pair bonding. Not only that, men with two copies of RS3 334 were more likely to be unmarried than men with one or none, and if they were married, they were twice as likely to have a marital crisis. Commitment phobia Given that everyone surveyed had been in their relationship for at least five years, the team suggests that having multiple copies somehow contributes to commitment problems in men. Because the results were collected for a different study the team couldn't quiz the men on whether they were faithful, says Wallum. It is not clear exactly how multiple copies of RS3 334 affect expression of the vasopressin receptor, and our most intimate relationships. And yet that's the most interesting question, says Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, Maryland. In some animals, the theory is that the brain has two "motivational" systems: one for reward, the other for social perception. In prairie voles and marmosets, receptors for the two systems sit on adjacent cells, so social activity is highly rewarding, leading to monogamy. To see if the same mechanism is at work in people will mean using tissue from post-mortems to map where vasopressin receptors lie, to see if variations are linked to the number of copies of RS3 334. RS3 334's social effects extend beyond bonding in couples. Earlier this year, the same gene section was shown to affect signalling in people's amygdalas, linked to trust. Another study found that people with autism, which is characterised by unusual social behaviour, often have multiple copies of RS3 334.  i've met monogamy gene and he is a lecherous pervert.  | |
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Graycap23 said: Byron said: LoL...very true. We also don't do well with the responsibilities of being truthful, either. One encourages the other...kind of a chicken/egg thing. Truthfulness is overrated. Example: The wife is in a great mood and is getting dressed 4 an event that the both of u are about 2 attend. While getting dressed she asks u how dinner was. U know full well that u did not care 4 her cooking that night and if u tell her the truth, u will ruin her mood and the evening. Which is the better answer? Honey, dinner was good or honey, I really did NOT like that dinner? The reality is that you don't know if it would ruin her good mood...maybe her good mood will cause her to laugh and say "oh well" and continue on with her evening. It's probably more likely that we wouldn't tell her the truth because we would feel guilty if her mood changed. So we don't tell the truth in order to eleviate our own discomfort in that situation as much as to help them avoid theirs. Plus, asking someone's opinion is different than asking someone to give you facts. In cases like that, the "truth" becomes more irrelevant. I could say "The asparagus tasted terrible", but only relative to my own tastes. Someone else could say "the asparagus tasted fantastic" and mean it sincerely. So in your example, it could simply be that at some level you realize telling your wife that YOU didn't like the dinner doesn't mean that the dinner wasn't good...so you decide (maybe more on a subconscious level) that your opinion isn't fact, so what you say doesn't really matter. | |
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Byron said: Graycap23 said: Truthfulness is overrated. Example: The wife is in a great mood and is getting dressed 4 an event that the both of u are about 2 attend. While getting dressed she asks u how dinner was. U know full well that u did not care 4 her cooking that night and if u tell her the truth, u will ruin her mood and the evening. Which is the better answer? Honey, dinner was good or honey, I really did NOT like that dinner? The reality is that you don't know if it would ruin her good mood...maybe her good mood will cause her to laugh and say "oh well" and continue on with her evening. It's probably more likely that we wouldn't tell her the truth because we would feel guilty if her mood changed. So we don't tell the truth in order to eleviate our own discomfort in that situation as much as to help them avoid theirs. Plus, asking someone's opinion is different than asking someone to give you facts. In cases like that, the "truth" becomes more irrelevant. I could say "The asparagus tasted terrible", but only relative to my own tastes. Someone else could say "the asparagus tasted fantastic" and mean it sincerely. So in your example, it could simply be that at some level you realize telling your wife that YOU didn't like the dinner doesn't mean that the dinner wasn't good...so you decide (maybe more on a subconscious level) that your opinion isn't fact, so what you say doesn't really matter. lol.....U don't KNOW my wife. | |
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Graycap23 said: Byron said: The reality is that you don't know if it would ruin her good mood...maybe her good mood will cause her to laugh and say "oh well" and continue on with her evening. It's probably more likely that we wouldn't tell her the truth because we would feel guilty if her mood changed. So we don't tell the truth in order to eleviate our own discomfort in that situation as much as to help them avoid theirs. Plus, asking someone's opinion is different than asking someone to give you facts. In cases like that, the "truth" becomes more irrelevant. I could say "The asparagus tasted terrible", but only relative to my own tastes. Someone else could say "the asparagus tasted fantastic" and mean it sincerely. So in your example, it could simply be that at some level you realize telling your wife that YOU didn't like the dinner doesn't mean that the dinner wasn't good...so you decide (maybe more on a subconscious level) that your opinion isn't fact, so what you say doesn't really matter. lol.....U don't KNOW my wife.  | |
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Variety and a dick you've never had before. Do you keep buying the same porno movie or magazine over and over again? Hell no, your next purchase is one you've never had before. Same with dicks. After having the same one a few times, I need a new one to get me hard. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Byron said: Graycap23 said: Truthfulness is overrated. Example: The wife is in a great mood and is getting dressed 4 an event that the both of u are about 2 attend. While getting dressed she asks u how dinner was. U know full well that u did not care 4 her cooking that night and if u tell her the truth, u will ruin her mood and the evening. Which is the better answer? Honey, dinner was good or honey, I really did NOT like that dinner? The reality is that you don't know if it would ruin her good mood...maybe her good mood will cause her to laugh and say "oh well" and continue on with her evening. It's probably more likely that we wouldn't tell her the truth because we would feel guilty if her mood changed. So we don't tell the truth in order to eleviate our own discomfort in that situation as much as to help them avoid theirs. Plus, asking someone's opinion is different than asking someone to give you facts. In cases like that, the "truth" becomes more irrelevant. I could say "The asparagus tasted terrible", but only relative to my own tastes. Someone else could say "the asparagus tasted fantastic" and mean it sincerely. So in your example, it could simply be that at some level you realize telling your wife that YOU didn't like the dinner doesn't mean that the dinner wasn't good...so you decide (maybe more on a subconscious level) that your opinion isn't fact, so what you say doesn't really matter. Oh man....SOOOOO true. | |
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Not sure how I can follow up THAT post but...
1) selfishness (not caring about anybody else) 2) ignorance (she'll never know anyway) 3) arrogance (my big dick needs more women because what's at home isn't enough) | |
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vainandy said: Variety and a dick you've never had before. Do you keep buying the same porno movie or magazine over and over again? Hell no, your next purchase is one you've never had before. Same with dicks. After having the same one a few times, I need a new one to get me hard.
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JustErin said: Byron said: The reality is that you don't know if it would ruin her good mood...maybe her good mood will cause her to laugh and say "oh well" and continue on with her evening. It's probably more likely that we wouldn't tell her the truth because we would feel guilty if her mood changed. So we don't tell the truth in order to eleviate our own discomfort in that situation as much as to help them avoid theirs. Plus, asking someone's opinion is different than asking someone to give you facts. In cases like that, the "truth" becomes more irrelevant. I could say "The asparagus tasted terrible", but only relative to my own tastes. Someone else could say "the asparagus tasted fantastic" and mean it sincerely. So in your example, it could simply be that at some level you realize telling your wife that YOU didn't like the dinner doesn't mean that the dinner wasn't good...so you decide (maybe more on a subconscious level) that your opinion isn't fact, so what you say doesn't really matter. Oh man....SOOOOO true. I can make the hammer connect to the nail head on occasion lol ... | |
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Byron said: JustErin said: Oh man....SOOOOO true. I can make the hammer connect to the nail head on occasion lol ...You're not kidding.
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Byron said: JustErin said: Oh man....SOOOOO true. I can make the hammer connect to the nail head on occasion lol ...Tell my wife u did not like that dinner.....and u will need that hammer. | |
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Graycap23 said: Byron said: I can make the hammer connect to the nail head on occasion lol ...Tell my wife u did not like that dinner.....and u will need that hammer. So you married a cunt. That sucks. Just kidding! | |
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Graycap23 said: Byron said: I can make the hammer connect to the nail head on occasion lol ...Tell my wife u did not like that dinner.....and u will need that hammer. So then you ARE lying to eleviate your own discomfort lol ... | |
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JustErin said: Graycap23 said: Tell my wife u did not like that dinner.....and u will need that hammer. So you married a cunt. That sucks. Just kidding! Lol.....she is cool.....she puts up with me. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: amorbella said: I agree with selfishness 
you are none of the things we have posted. You are, in my opinion, an awsome catch. Anyone who is loved by you is a very lucky person  Well when I was getting my ass beat by my boyfriend, I turned to someone for comfort, not out of some selfish sexual greed. And thank you baby I'm still chasing those frogs! being selfish is not always bad, sometimes in order to have self preservation one has to be selfish. 
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vainandy said: Variety and a dick you've never had before. Do you keep buying the same porno movie or magazine over and over again? Hell no, your next purchase is one you've never had before. Same with dicks. After having the same one a few times, I need a new one to get me hard.
I call it Different Dick [Edited 9/3/08 13:21pm] | |
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Byron said: Graycap23 said: Tell my wife u did not like that dinner.....and u will need that hammer. So then you ARE lying to eleviate your own discomfort lol ...lol.....it's a JOKE. | |
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I think what this entire thread ends up saying, at least to me, is that the best relationships (relatives, friendships and romantic) are the ones in which both people can feel vulnerable with each other yet still feel safe as well, often at the same time. I think that if you have that within a family, a friendship or a relationship, you're gonna find yourself being far more honest far more often. Doesn't mean you still won't hold back on things...I think everyone needs their privacy and their private moments, and both should be respected without condition. But if there's that trust of each other's hearts and each other's love, then you'll be more likely to say "I'm having feelings within our relationship that I shouldn't be having" when you find your affections going towards someone you're not involved with.
And let's face it, it's rare to find that type of relationship, sometimes even within one's own family. Without that sense of trust in each other, it might feel like you're jumping out of an airplane with a possibly defective parachute...."will it or won't it open when I pull the chord?". | |
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someone once told me that nothing is written in stone. You can make all the promises you want, but at the end, its up to that person on that certain day and that certain time. And how willing that person is to make it work
If that person decided he/she doesnt want to at that very moment, then that is up to them. That is what divorce and break ups are for. so sad..... thank god im not with this person anymore!!! Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize u simply imagined this So u lean over and give her a kiss Here on earth, here on earth, with u it's not so bad Here on earth, here on earth eye don't feel so sad Stay right here |
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CarrieMpls said: MuthaFunka said: From a male perspective:
1 - Opportunity: A man is only as faithful as his options 2 - New Pussy: Ain't nothin' better than new pussy 3 - Monogamy isn't natural: Men CHOOSE to be monogamous, when the natural thing is to jerk-out everything in sight And this is why I'm single.  I feel ya there! I'm single too. Trust can be a lifelong thing sometimes. Lack of trust I mean. (btw Interesting article on the monogamy gene thing Horatio-not saying I agree with it 100% BUT it was interesting nonetheless). 
[Edited 9/4/08 0:25am] [Edited 9/4/08 0:26am] [Edited 9/4/08 0:26am] "Sign of the times, will mess with your mind. Hurry before it's too late." Prince | |
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JustErin said: needs
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1. jealousy
2. trolls 3. he just gets on my gat dayum nerves THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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...and furthermore...WHAT Partner???? THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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