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Monogamy gene found in people 22:00 01 September 2008 NewScientist.com news service Priya Shetty What if you could tell whether a man is husband material just by peering at his genes? There has been speculation about the role of the hormone vasopressin in humans ever since we discovered that variations in where receptors for the hormone are expressed makes prairie voles strictly monogamous but meadow voles promiscuous; vasopressin is related to the "cuddle chemical" oxytocin. Now it seems variations in a section of the gene coding for a vasopressin receptor in people help to determine whether men are serial commitment-phobes or devoted husbands. Hasse Walum at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, and colleagues looked at the various forms of the gene coding for a vasopressin receptor in 552 Swedish people, who were all in heterosexual partnerships. The researchers also investigated the quality of their relationships. They found that variation in a section of the gene called RS3 334 was linked to how men bond with their partners. Men can have none, one or two copies of the RS3 334 section, and the higher the number of copies, the worse men scored on a measure of pair bonding. Not only that, men with two copies of RS3 334 were more likely to be unmarried than men with one or none, and if they were married, they were twice as likely to have a marital crisis. Commitment phobia Given that everyone surveyed had been in their relationship for at least five years, the team suggests that having multiple copies somehow contributes to commitment problems in men. Because the results were collected for a different study the team couldn't quiz the men on whether they were faithful, says Wallum. It is not clear exactly how multiple copies of RS3 334 affect expression of the vasopressin receptor, and our most intimate relationships. And yet that's the most interesting question, says Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, Maryland. In some animals, the theory is that the brain has two "motivational" systems: one for reward, the other for social perception. In prairie voles and marmosets, receptors for the two systems sit on adjacent cells, so social activity is highly rewarding, leading to monogamy. To see if the same mechanism is at work in people will mean using tissue from post-mortems to map where vasopressin receptors lie, to see if variations are linked to the number of copies of RS3 334. RS3 334's social effects extend beyond bonding in couples. Earlier this year, the same gene section was shown to affect signalling in people's amygdalas, linked to trust. Another study found that people with autism, which is characterised by unusual social behaviour, often have multiple copies of RS3 334.   nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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1. lack of respect
2. lack of affection 3. lack of acknowledgment Say it's just a dream...
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mdiver said: There is only 1
Selfishness No. there are others. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: mdiver said: There is only 1
Selfishness No. there are others. I agree with selfishness 
you are none of the things we have posted. You are, in my opinion, an awsome catch. Anyone who is loved by you is a very lucky person  Say it's just a dream...
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amorbella said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: No. there are others. I agree with selfishness
you are none of the things we have posted. You are, in my opinion, an awsome catch. Anyone who is loved by you is a very lucky person Well when I was getting my ass beat by my boyfriend, I turned to someone for comfort, not out of some selfish sexual greed. And thank you baby I'm still chasing those frogs! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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horatio said: http://www.newscientist.c...ad_dn14641
Monogamy gene found in people 22:00 01 September 2008 NewScientist.com news service Priya Shetty What if you could tell whether a man is husband material just by peering at his genes? There has been speculation about the role of the hormone vasopressin in humans ever since we discovered that variations in where receptors for the hormone are expressed makes prairie voles strictly monogamous but meadow voles promiscuous; vasopressin is related to the "cuddle chemical" oxytocin. Now it seems variations in a section of the gene coding for a vasopressin receptor in people help to determine whether men are serial commitment-phobes or devoted husbands. Hasse Walum at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, and colleagues looked at the various forms of the gene coding for a vasopressin receptor in 552 Swedish people, who were all in heterosexual partnerships. The researchers also investigated the quality of their relationships. They found that variation in a section of the gene called RS3 334 was linked to how men bond with their partners. Men can have none, one or two copies of the RS3 334 section, and the higher the number of copies, the worse men scored on a measure of pair bonding. Not only that, men with two copies of RS3 334 were more likely to be unmarried than men with one or none, and if they were married, they were twice as likely to have a marital crisis. Commitment phobia Given that everyone surveyed had been in their relationship for at least five years, the team suggests that having multiple copies somehow contributes to commitment problems in men. Because the results were collected for a different study the team couldn't quiz the men on whether they were faithful, says Wallum. It is not clear exactly how multiple copies of RS3 334 affect expression of the vasopressin receptor, and our most intimate relationships. And yet that's the most interesting question, says Thomas Insel, director of the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, Maryland. In some animals, the theory is that the brain has two "motivational" systems: one for reward, the other for social perception. In prairie voles and marmosets, receptors for the two systems sit on adjacent cells, so social activity is highly rewarding, leading to monogamy. To see if the same mechanism is at work in people will mean using tissue from post-mortems to map where vasopressin receptors lie, to see if variations are linked to the number of copies of RS3 334. RS3 334's social effects extend beyond bonding in couples. Earlier this year, the same gene section was shown to affect signalling in people's amygdalas, linked to trust. Another study found that people with autism, which is characterised by unusual social behaviour, often have multiple copies of RS3 334. I'm referring to females being unfaithful, not men. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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MoniGram said: I don't dare give reasons...one can't give reasons until they have walked in those shoes.
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1. Lack of self understanding and sexual control.
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MoniGram said: I don't dare give reasons...one can't give reasons until they have walked in those shoes.
That's a great answer. I can imagine why people might cheat, but since I haven't yet, I am not sure what could make me do it. I have known people who cheated and understood why they did, but I've been tested in a long term relationship, too, and not cheated. So it seems it's different for different people. My Legacy
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NDRU said: MoniGram said: I don't dare give reasons...one can't give reasons until they have walked in those shoes.
That's a great answer. I can imagine why people might cheat, but since I haven't yet, I am not sure what could make me do it. I have known people who cheated and understood why they did, but I've been tested in a long term relationship, too, and not cheated. So it seems it's different for different people. Exactly Everyone has their own reasons for cheating...and who am I to make a list saying why someone would.Proud Memaw to Seyhan Olivia Christine ,Zoey Cirilo Jaylee & Ellie Abigail Lillian  | |
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Why is it that some cheaters say they still love their significant other, the one they cheated on?
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. I've had lots of opportunities to cheat on my husband in the 18 years I've been with him, but have never even kissed another man because I love him. | |
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dustysgirl said: Why is it that some cheaters say they still love their significant other, the one they cheated on?
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. I've had lots of opportunities to cheat on my husband in the 18 years I've been with him, but have never even kissed another man because I love him. Who are we to question someone else's feeling towards another? We can't do that, because we aren't them. Proud Memaw to Seyhan Olivia Christine ,Zoey Cirilo Jaylee & Ellie Abigail Lillian | |
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dustysgirl said: Why is it that some cheaters say they still love their significant other, the one they cheated on?
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. And if love is real, it doesn't go away when we make choices we're not particularly proud of. And sometimes those choices we're not particularly proud of help us realize we never really loved our partners the way we hoped, the way we wanted to. It's called making a "mistake", and learning from it...that's what Life is. I'm with Moni on this, in that I'll leave it to the two people involved to determine if there is real love between them still in that situation. | |
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dustysgirl said: Why is it that some cheaters say they still love their significant other, the one they cheated on?
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts,always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails. I've had lots of opportunities to cheat on my husband in the 18 years I've been with him, but have never even kissed another man because I love him. people can be capable of 'loving' more than one person. sex and 'love' are two different things. [Edited 9/3/08 12:06pm] | |
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Graycap23 said: What's Love got 2 do with it?
Exactly. For some people, sex and love have absolutely nothing to do with each other. | |
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Graycap23 said: What's Love got 2 do with it?
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JustErin said: Graycap23 said: What's Love got 2 do with it?
Exactly. For some people, sex and love have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. | |
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Byron said: JustErin said: Exactly. For some people, sex and love have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. What about when expectations pass sexual daliances. Some women feel that masterbation is cheating. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Byron said: Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. What about when expectations pass sexual daliances. Some women feel that masterbation is cheating. and toilet seats | |
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horatio said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: What about when expectations pass sexual daliances. Some women feel that masterbation is cheating. and toilet seats or passing a bowel movement | |
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Byron said: JustErin said: Exactly. For some people, sex and love have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. I was responding to that starry-eyed, puppies and kittens love comment. Of course, I know that it's not about what they did it's about them deceiving their partner - which I truly believe is unacceptable. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Byron said: Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. What about when expectations pass sexual daliances. Some women feel that masterbation is cheating. It's still about honesty. If a man is honest about masturbating, I'd have a hard time figuring out how their partner would see it as being unfaithful (I'd have a hard time seeing it as being unfaithful, period lol). But, if a man tells his partner that he abhors masturbating and would never do it...then is caught one day by his partner doing just that, then there could be similar emotions to if his partner had actually caught him with another woman. | |
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Byron said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: What about when expectations pass sexual daliances. Some women feel that masterbation is cheating. It's still about honesty. If a man is honest about masturbating, I'd have a hard time figuring out how their partner would see it as being unfaithful (I'd have a hard time seeing it as being unfaithful, period lol). But, if a man tells his partner that he abhors masturbating and would never do it...then is caught one day by his partner doing just that, then there could be similar emotions to if his partner had actually caught him with another woman. Not necessarily so. A man might not mention it because he doesn't even know she would flip out about what he does with his body. I think that can be a problem if his hand replaces her but some women have problems even if they are having a very healthy sex life. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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JustErin said: Byron said: Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. I was responding to that starry-eyed, puppies and kittens love comment. Of course, I know that it's not about what they did it's about them deceiving their partner - which I truly believe is unacceptable. Ah, ok  ... | |
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Byron said: JustErin said: Exactly. For some people, sex and love have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Yeah, but we're talking about being "unfaithful", which in reality is not about sex. It's about not being honest with them. Humans don't do well with the truth. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Byron said: It's still about honesty. If a man is honest about masturbating, I'd have a hard time figuring out how their partner would see it as being unfaithful (I'd have a hard time seeing it as being unfaithful, period lol). But, if a man tells his partner that he abhors masturbating and would never do it...then is caught one day by his partner doing just that, then there could be similar emotions to if his partner had actually caught him with another woman. Not necessarily so. A man might not mention it because he doesn't even know she would flip out about what he does with his body. I think that can be a problem if his hand replaces her but some women have problems even if they are having a very healthy sex life. Well then he's not being dishonest in that case. And yeah, there ARE some women (maybe even some men) who think that masturbation is in some way a deviance from loving her ...they might take it to equating it to cheating, instead of just incorporating it into their sex life lol... | |
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