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GOD DAMN IT, SCRAPBOOKING IS NOT ART!

Scrapbooking is cute. It's fun. It's awesome for passing the time, and it's a really kickass way to organize your photos into an album.


But it's not art, damn it. And if I have to listen to one more uninteresting nitwit housewife brag about their artistic and creative prowess through scrapbooking, I might have to hit them with a frying pan.

It's cutting paper and ribbons and arranging it around a photo, people. That's it. I know that art is entirely subjective, and that one person's garbage is another's art, but come on! Can't we draw the line somewhere? Shouldn't art have to involve a little, you know, creativity or effort or thought process or original ideas or something?

You can buy pre-made kits and stickers and designs. There are books available for the low, low price of $24.99 telling their readers what good ideas are. There are goof-proof stickers in case you can't coordinate yourself enough to place it on the page evenly. You can even buy machines now to cut the paper into factory-set designs for you, so you never even have to put in the effort of picking up a pair of scissors.

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Look, if any of you are into scrapbooking, that's cool. I've got nothing against scrapbooking in and of itself.

But God damn it, stop trying to call it art!
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Reply #1 posted 09/01/08 3:23am

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i agree totally, well unless you design and cut out your own stuff

its always cool to keep wrappers and coloured foils and make customs cards and shit for friends b'days and such.

shit then its art..but everything else, is just glitter...
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Reply #2 posted 09/01/08 3:28am

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eraclito said:

i agree totally, well unless you design and cut out your own stuff



See, that's different. But of all the people who've tried to brag to me about their, er, artwork (and it's been a lot. It's weird) all have been the kit-buyer type.
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Reply #3 posted 09/01/08 3:30am

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meow85 said:

eraclito said:

i agree totally, well unless you design and cut out your own stuff



See, that's different. But of all the people who've tried to brag to me about their, er, artwork (and it's been a lot. It's weird) all have been the kit-buyer type.


yeah i hear you, no that is most definitely not art..

thats not even join the dots..
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Reply #4 posted 09/01/08 3:41am

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eraclito said:

meow85 said:



See, that's different. But of all the people who've tried to brag to me about their, er, artwork (and it's been a lot. It's weird) all have been the kit-buyer type.


yeah i hear you, no that is most definitely not art..

thats not even join the dots..


lol

Not a paint-by-numbers, either.
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Reply #5 posted 09/01/08 3:42am

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meow85 said:

eraclito said:



yeah i hear you, no that is most definitely not art..

thats not even join the dots..


lol

Not a paint-by-numbers, either.


hell its not even finger painting. finger painting actually is art..
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Reply #6 posted 09/01/08 3:45am

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eraclito said:

meow85 said:



lol

Not a paint-by-numbers, either.


hell its not even finger painting. finger painting actually is art..

Finger painting is awesome. I still do it once in a while, when I can be bothered to go out and buy myself acrylics.
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Reply #7 posted 09/01/08 3:51am

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meow85 said:

eraclito said:



hell its not even finger painting. finger painting actually is art..

Finger painting is awesome. I still do it once in a while, when I can be bothered to go out and buy myself acrylics.


cool, i got poster paint, just add water..
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Reply #8 posted 09/01/08 3:59am

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eraclito said:

meow85 said:


Finger painting is awesome. I still do it once in a while, when I can be bothered to go out and buy myself acrylics.


cool, i got poster paint, just add water..

For some reason I can never seem to find regular ol' poster paint.

I like acrylics for fingerpainting because the paint's good enough that sometimes, just sometimes, you can make it look like whatever you end up making was on prupose and not just the results of mucking around with your hands.

razz
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Reply #9 posted 09/01/08 4:01am

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meow85 said:

eraclito said:



cool, i got poster paint, just add water..

For some reason I can never seem to find regular ol' poster paint.

I like acrylics for fingerpainting because the paint's good enough that sometimes, just sometimes, you can make it look like whatever you end up making was on prupose and not just the results of mucking around with your hands.

razz


i stole mine from school, i stole a lot of things back then.. lol

have u ever tried oil bars, now they are cool..

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Reply #10 posted 09/01/08 4:05am

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eraclito said:

meow85 said:


For some reason I can never seem to find regular ol' poster paint.

I like acrylics for fingerpainting because the paint's good enough that sometimes, just sometimes, you can make it look like whatever you end up making was on prupose and not just the results of mucking around with your hands.

razz


i stole mine from school, i stole a lot of things back then.. lol

have u ever tried acrylic bars, now they are cool..



No, I've not.



Honestly, my favourite medium is just regular HB pencils and Crayolas. Unfortunately that means I don't get to show off any of my stuff online because graphite and crayon wax just don't scan well. I've tried. razz
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Reply #11 posted 09/01/08 4:09am

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meow85 said:

eraclito said:



i stole mine from school, i stole a lot of things back then.. lol

have u ever tried acrylic bars, now they are cool..



No, I've not.



Honestly, my favourite medium is just regular HB pencils and Crayolas. Unfortunately that means I don't get to show off any of my stuff online because graphite and crayon wax just don't scan well. I've tried. razz


i like drawing in pencils too, u just need a better scanner.. or change the resolution/settings

not that i know much about scanning stuff.
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Reply #12 posted 09/01/08 4:23am

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eraclito said:

meow85 said:




No, I've not.



Honestly, my favourite medium is just regular HB pencils and Crayolas. Unfortunately that means I don't get to show off any of my stuff online because graphite and crayon wax just don't scan well. I've tried. razz


i like drawing in pencils too, u just need a better scanner.. or change the resolution/settings

not that i know much about scanning stuff.


I know dick-all about technology. So, yeah....lol
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Reply #13 posted 09/01/08 5:05am

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meow85 said:

Scrapbooking is cute. It's fun. It's awesome for passing the time, and it's a really kickass way to organize your photos into an album.


But it's not art, damn it. And if I have to listen to one more uninteresting nitwit housewife brag about their artistic and creative prowess through scrapbooking, I might have to hit them with a frying pan.

It's cutting paper and ribbons and arranging it around a photo, people. That's it. I know that art is entirely subjective, and that one person's garbage is another's art, but come on! Can't we draw the line somewhere? Shouldn't art have to involve a little, you know, creativity or effort or thought process or original ideas or something?

You can buy pre-made kits and stickers and designs. There are books available for the low, low price of $24.99 telling their readers what good ideas are. There are goof-proof stickers in case you can't coordinate yourself enough to place it on the page evenly. You can even buy machines now to cut the paper into factory-set designs for you, so you never even have to put in the effort of picking up a pair of scissors.

confused



Look, if any of you are into scrapbooking, that's cool. I've got nothing against scrapbooking in and of itself.

But God damn it, stop trying to call it art!



I am going to have to disagree with you. Some people don't use kits, design their own patterns etc. Anything in life can be art, cooking is an art, home design is an art, knitting is an art. Anything that is creative can be an art. I am sorry but that's my opinion.
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Reply #14 posted 09/01/08 5:41am

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meow85 said:

eraclito said:



i like drawing in pencils too, u just need a better scanner.. or change the resolution/settings

not that i know much about scanning stuff.


I know dick-all about technology. So, yeah....lol


fuck technology, so how much do u know about dicks razz

lol

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Reply #15 posted 09/01/08 5:43am

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MoniGram said:

meow85 said:

Scrapbooking is cute. It's fun. It's awesome for passing the time, and it's a really kickass way to organize your photos into an album.


But it's not art, damn it. And if I have to listen to one more uninteresting nitwit housewife brag about their artistic and creative prowess through scrapbooking, I might have to hit them with a frying pan.

It's cutting paper and ribbons and arranging it around a photo, people. That's it. I know that art is entirely subjective, and that one person's garbage is another's art, but come on! Can't we draw the line somewhere? Shouldn't art have to involve a little, you know, creativity or effort or thought process or original ideas or something?

You can buy pre-made kits and stickers and designs. There are books available for the low, low price of $24.99 telling their readers what good ideas are. There are goof-proof stickers in case you can't coordinate yourself enough to place it on the page evenly. You can even buy machines now to cut the paper into factory-set designs for you, so you never even have to put in the effort of picking up a pair of scissors.

confused



Look, if any of you are into scrapbooking, that's cool. I've got nothing against scrapbooking in and of itself.

But God damn it, stop trying to call it art!



I am going to have to disagree with you. Some people don't use kits, design their own patterns etc. Anything in life can be art, cooking is an art, home design is an art, knitting is an art. Anything that is creative can be an art. I am sorry but that's my opinion.



hey moni, we kinda covered that in the first two posts and i feel i can speak for Meow85 even though i dont know her from Adam, but we both agree with you.

its the prepackaged, paint by numbers, stuff we are moaning about..

cool?
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Reply #16 posted 09/01/08 5:45am

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Tell that to the ladies that attend the SCAPBOOKING COVENTION in Pennsylvania. They come from all over the country dragging their suitcases full of stuff with them. It's kinda sad. confused
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Reply #17 posted 09/01/08 5:46am

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eraclito said:

meow85 said:



I know dick-all about technology. So, yeah....lol


fuck technology, so how much do u know about dicks razz

lol

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Reply #18 posted 09/01/08 5:47am

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oh pray and please dont be 16
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Reply #19 posted 09/01/08 6:39am

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it's art...
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Reply #20 posted 09/01/08 6:43am

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it's art to some people.
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Reply #21 posted 09/01/08 6:57am

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JasmineFire said:

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it's art to some people.


yeah, emphasis on the SOME..

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Reply #22 posted 09/01/08 7:18am

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eraclito said:

MoniGram said:




I am going to have to disagree with you. Some people don't use kits, design their own patterns etc. Anything in life can be art, cooking is an art, home design is an art, knitting is an art. Anything that is creative can be an art. I am sorry but that's my opinion.



hey moni, we kinda covered that in the first two posts and i feel i can speak for Meow85 even though i dont know her from Adam, but we both agree with you.

its the prepackaged, paint by numbers, stuff we are moaning about..

cool?


Always cool, just saying my peace too. biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 09/01/08 7:19am

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MoniGram said:

eraclito said:




hey moni, we kinda covered that in the first two posts and i feel i can speak for Meow85 even though i dont know her from Adam, but we both agree with you.

its the prepackaged, paint by numbers, stuff we are moaning about..

cool?


Always cool, just saying my peace too. biggrin


ofcourse, its just u start off by saying u disagreed with us, which is why i clarified..

lol
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Reply #24 posted 09/01/08 7:22am

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eraclito said:

oh pray and please dont be 16

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OED said:

MoniGram said:



Always cool, just saying my peace too. biggrin


ofcourse, its just u start off by saying u disagreed with us, which is why i clarified..

lol



Well I was disagreeing with the first comment etc...no biggie...
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Reply #26 posted 09/01/08 9:00am

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MoniGram said:

OED said:



ofcourse, its just u start off by saying u disagreed with us, which is why i clarified..

lol



Well I was disagreeing with the first comment etc...no biggie...


lol, i see, usually when a point has been discussed and a conclusion reached, any points made thereafter are usually on the case in point rather than the original hypothesis.

but then one could argue that i am too pedantic, and this is just a stupid thread on scrap booking..

i'm playing its cool....
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Reply #27 posted 09/01/08 9:10am

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MoniGram said:

meow85 said:

Scrapbooking is cute. It's fun. It's awesome for passing the time, and it's a really kickass way to organize your photos into an album.


But it's not art, damn it. And if I have to listen to one more uninteresting nitwit housewife brag about their artistic and creative prowess through scrapbooking, I might have to hit them with a frying pan.

It's cutting paper and ribbons and arranging it around a photo, people. That's it. I know that art is entirely subjective, and that one person's garbage is another's art, but come on! Can't we draw the line somewhere? Shouldn't art have to involve a little, you know, creativity or effort or thought process or original ideas or something?

You can buy pre-made kits and stickers and designs. There are books available for the low, low price of $24.99 telling their readers what good ideas are. There are goof-proof stickers in case you can't coordinate yourself enough to place it on the page evenly. You can even buy machines now to cut the paper into factory-set designs for you, so you never even have to put in the effort of picking up a pair of scissors.

confused



Look, if any of you are into scrapbooking, that's cool. I've got nothing against scrapbooking in and of itself.

But God damn it, stop trying to call it art!



I am going to have to disagree with you. Some people don't use kits, design their own patterns etc. Anything in life can be art, cooking is an art, home design is an art, knitting is an art. Anything that is creative can be an art. I am sorry but that's my opinion.



thanks Moni biggrin


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veronikka said:

MoniGram said:




I am going to have to disagree with you. Some people don't use kits, design their own patterns etc. Anything in life can be art, cooking is an art, home design is an art, knitting is an art. Anything that is creative can be an art. I am sorry but that's my opinion.



thanks Moni biggrin


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hey we never said what u do, isnt art, just what everyone else does

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Reply #29 posted 09/01/08 9:12am

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lol, naa seriously your stuff is different, i just dont like those arts n crafts fogies
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