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PrintableSUPRMAN said: PurpleJedi said: Peodophiles aren't like purse thieves. You can't just "rehabilitate" then and turn them loose into society. THAT train of thought is what got little Megan killed and what prompted Megan's Law. No, they SHOULDN'T live anywhere near our little angels...although I highly doubt that you have any kids so I understand your lack of comprehension. But they are people you know, not some stranger down the street. While you are worried about him . . . someone you let into your house is more likely to molest your children. But let's not have facts get in the way of a good story . . . Approximately 20% to 25% of women and 5% to 15% of men were sexually abused when they were children.[11][12][13][14][15] Most sexual abuse offenders are acquainted with their victims; approximately 30% are relatives of the child, most often fathers, uncles or cousins; around 60% are other acquaintances such as friends of the family, babysitters, or neighbors; strangers are the offenders in approximately 10% of child sexual abuse cases. Most child sexual abuse is committed by men; women commit approximately 14% of offenses reported against boys and 6% of offenses reported against girls.[11] Most offenders who abuse pre-pubescent children are pedophiles,[16][17] however a small percentage do not meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia.[18] Yeah...and when one of those babysitters, uncles, cousins, whatever is prosecuted for their crimes, then they need to be registered. By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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StillGotIt said: Mara said: I'm not trying to personally attack you or anyone on here with this next statement (and I pose this to the entire org): If you found out your neighbors were gay, If you found out your grammar school teacher/kindegarten teacher was a homosexual, your kids' camp conselor, etc. would you be fearful of them being around your children? Would you feel it was your right to know if they were homosexual while employed/monitoring or being around your kids? Now this is REALLY touchy, and this topic is up here for public view and it ain't locked (yet) so opinions will vary on this. I just want to put it out there because there are public school teachers/ social workers, members of the church, etc. who are Lesbian, Gay, Transgender, Bisexual, etc. -- some are open about it, some are not (many fearful of being open for fear of what y'all might do[!] even though they're respectable people) Would you feel safe with someone like that around your kids? Would they be considered for that list, too? Keep in mind: this is not a personal attack, it's a public discussion. I'm just curious. While we are blasting and exposing Known Sex Offenders, who else could be on that list? Any gay Orgers who you find suspect could they be vilified too? Could I or my colleagues potentially be an Offender just for standing or living next to your kids if you even as much thought I came off funny? Tell me, would that, then, give you a right to call authorities on me, have me fired, petition to take away MY KIDS or even worse attack me? This subject is touchy because once we start Registering who is an Offender, more and more things become arbitrary and little things like discrimination and hate happen. P.S.: And for the comment about you "highly doubting" I have kids, I'm gonna chalk that up to you not knowing me personally and not take that as a homophobic statement. [Edited 8/28/08 22:36pm] WTF does gays have to do with dangerous sex offenders. If your gay and your a child molester, hell yea, you are on my shit list just like a straight child molester would be on my shit list. Nobody is villifying sex offenders, certain crimes committed against a person warrant being shat upon. I dont care for rapist and child molesters.....I dont care what their sexual preference is. Do you ask because you lump the two together....gays and sex offenders? Yeah! What the hell does being gay have to do with peodophiles? Mara - I've never chatted, orgnoted, or talked to you before, so I don't know your sexual preference. My comment was based on your apparent laisez-faire attitude concerning the matter at hand. Based on your last comment I assume that perhaps you are gay? Which makes it more perplexing as to why you would even insinuate that homosexuality and peodophilia go hand-in-hand ...or are you just baiting? Honestly, tha has got to be one of the most ridiculoous posts I've ever seen in GD.  By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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superspaceboy said: PurpleJedi said: Peodophiles aren't like purse thieves. You can't just "rehabilitate" then and turn them loose into society. THAT train of thought is what got little Megan killed and what prompted Megan's Law. No, they SHOULDN'T live anywhere near our little angels...although I highly doubt that you have any kids so I understand your lack of comprehension. So what do you suggest? If you can't rehabilitate them and you can't let them live in society where there are children around, what is the alternative? I think Mara and I were making that point. I think we do understand, but the solutions that have been come up with are stupid and they don't solve the issue. I don't think that there IS an alternative. Unless we resort to fascist methods (forcibly interning them in camps or whatever) they need to live within the general society. And because of that, you do wind up with situations were your next door neighbor can be one. With mandatory registration and notification of the community, my son's friend's parents were able to make a point of keeping him AWAY from the creep living next door (see my first post). By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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good ol' sex offender threads get everyones goat  | |
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ehuffnsd said: it never has been, these lists give people a false sense of security and also cause them to live in fear. kids aren't allowed to be kids anymore because some boogy man might get them. It's just information dude. I know that ignorance is bliss, but in this case, I WANT TO KNOW. By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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horatio said: good ol' sex offender threads get everyones goat
Only because I miss the Creation-vs-Evolution threads with Eternaldragon. By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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PurpleJedi said: horatio said: good ol' sex offender threads get everyones goat
Only because I miss the Creation-vs-Evolution threads with Eternaldragon. we should do a thread for him in PnR i miss him too. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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PurpleJedi said: StillGotIt said: WTF does gays have to do with dangerous sex offenders. If your gay and your a child molester, hell yea, you are on my shit list just like a straight child molester would be on my shit list. Nobody is villifying sex offenders, certain crimes committed against a person warrant being shat upon. I dont care for rapist and child molesters.....I dont care what their sexual preference is. Do you ask because you lump the two together....gays and sex offenders? Yeah! What the hell does being gay have to do with peodophiles? Mara - I've never chatted, orgnoted, or talked to you before, so I don't know your sexual preference. My comment was based on your apparent laisez-faire attitude concerning the matter at hand. Based on your last comment I assume that perhaps you are gay? Which makes it more perplexing as to why you would even insinuate that homosexuality and peodophilia go hand-in-hand ...or are you just baiting?  I L-O-V-E how folks are trying to SPIN the questions and dodge it. That's cool. Not mad @ you, trust me.
For the org's info, I don't live on this name nor is it some full representation of me on the streets, so miss me with all that. I've never stated my sexuality on this website in the 5 or so years (Damn, it's that long *_____* lolll) I've been here -- So you can assume what you want. I'm not trippin. But I will stand up when I need to. I'll be the first to tell you: "Mara" itself is an internet handle, not a consummate representation of who I am on the streets.  | |
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PurpleJedi said: StillGotIt said: WTF does gays have to do with dangerous sex offenders. If your gay and your a child molester, hell yea, you are on my shit list just like a straight child molester would be on my shit list. Nobody is villifying sex offenders, certain crimes committed against a person warrant being shat upon. I dont care for rapist and child molesters.....I dont care what their sexual preference is. Do you ask because you lump the two together....gays and sex offenders? Yeah! What the hell does being gay have to do with peodophiles? Mara - I've never chatted, orgnoted, or talked to you before, so I don't know your sexual preference. My comment was based on your apparent laisez-faire attitude concerning the matter at hand. Based on your last comment I assume that perhaps you are gay? Which makes it more perplexing as to why you would even insinuate that homosexuality and peodophilia go hand-in-hand ...or are you just baiting? I L-O-V-E how folks are trying to SPIN the questions and dodge it. That's cool. Not mad @ you, trust me.
For the org's info, I don't live on this name nor is it some full representation of me on the streets, so miss me with all that. I've never stated my sexuality on this website in the 5 or so years (Damn, it's that long *_____* lolll) I've been here -- So you can assume what you want. I'm not trippin. But I will stand up when I need to. I'll be the first to tell you: "Mara" itself is an internet handle, not a consummate representation of who I am on the streets. | |
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Mara said: PurpleJedi said: Yeah! What the hell does being gay have to do with peodophiles? Mara - I've never chatted, orgnoted, or talked to you before, so I don't know your sexual preference. My comment was based on your apparent laisez-faire attitude concerning the matter at hand. Based on your last comment I assume that perhaps you are gay? Which makes it more perplexing as to why you would even insinuate that homosexuality and peodophilia go hand-in-hand ...or are you just baiting? I L-O-V-E how folks are trying to SPIN the questions and dodge it. That's cool. Not mad @ you, trust me.
For the org's info, I don't live on this name nor is it some full representation of me on the streets, so miss me with all that. I've never stated my sexuality on this website in the 5 or so years (Damn, it's that long *_____* lolll) I've been here -- So you can assume what you want. I'm not trippin. But I will stand up when I need to. I'll be the first to tell you: "Mara" itself is an internet handle, not a consummate representation of who I am on the streets. I answered you. "not a fan"  yeah...ok | |
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superspaceboy said: PurpleJedi said: Peodophiles aren't like purse thieves. You can't just "rehabilitate" then and turn them loose into society. THAT train of thought is what got little Megan killed and what prompted Megan's Law. No, they SHOULDN'T live anywhere near our little angels...although I highly doubt that you have any kids so I understand your lack of comprehension. So what do you suggest? If you can't rehabilitate them and you can't let them live in society where there are children around, what is the alternative? I think Mara and I were making that point. I think we do understand, but the solutions that have been come up with are stupid and they don't solve the issue. Totally agree with this. We don't want them to live next to our children, but find no issue with these people being in other neighborhoods with children as equally as precious. I find that in this country we have this whole, "as long as it's not in my backyard, I'm cool with it" mentality. "If it doesn't affect me I have nothing to do with it." And it just goes on and on like that without workable solutions. | |
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Mara said: I L-O-V-E how folks are trying to SPIN the questions and dodge it. That's cool. Not mad @ you, trust me.no one is dodging anything... you tied homosexuality with attacking children and.. why? .. this is about people who attack kids and no amount of jail time will rehabilitate them (20 years can go by).. so when they get out, they will attack again... and alot of them DO NOT seek therapy or help or even want to be helped... and why shouldnt the neighborhood know about this? gay people do not attack children (unless they are pedophiles) and... i dunno why you would tie the 2 together..... and no, i personally do not have the 'me, my, and I' attitude, that kinda attitude that says 'if it's not my backyard, i dont care' ..... how would u feel if your neighbor, who is a sex offender, offers to babysit your kids? .. are u saying you would graciously give him a job? im just asking ... | |
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Yeah, I was interested in engaging in a side debate yesterday. And, as you can see, I had time on my hands @ that moment to do that.
But, to be 100 with you, my attention span is on other things. I could be Mrs. Activist and keep this Popcorn moment goin', but, that's simply not my stee. However, I respect everybody's enthusiasm. True talk. 
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Shorty said: ehuffnsd said: i dunno, i've never been to it nor support it. why not? i don't support registry web sites either. i think if i'm a good parent, like i said earlier, i would treat every stranger in my neighborhood as a potential danger, PLUS i think those who have not been apprehended yet are more of a threat than those who have been identified as sex offenders. therefore, i don't see how it's my business to violate someone else's privacy when they've already been punished for their crimes and they're trying to return to some kind of normalcy in their lives. whether i see their name on a list or not, i'd take the same protective measures for my kids either way. meanwhile, i'm not really invested in ostracizing anyone in my neighborhood and i'm not particularly interested in raising hysteria or paranoia in the comfort of my own home. i'm sure this whole registry idea scratches a moral and emotional itch, but i think it's uncivilized, unconstitutional and ultimately unnecessary. and yes, i know that's not a popular opinion. but it's still my opinion. OH WELL.  | |
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Anxiety said: i'm sure this whole registry idea scratches a moral and emotional itch, but i think it's uncivilized, unconstitutional and ultimately unnecessary.
and yes, i know that's not a popular opinion. but it's still my opinion. OH WELL. Sometimes you're so european  | |
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I can't believe nobody's posted a Brass Eye 2001 special video
Part 1 NSFW Part 2 Oh god, the Hall & Oates pics. It isn't wrong to find it funny, I'm quite sure of it.
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JLB8, the rapper Some of the posters above must be dead by now | |
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Flowers2 said: Mara said: I L-O-V-E how folks are trying to SPIN the questions and dodge it. That's cool. Not mad @ you, trust me.[b]no one is dodging anything... you tied homosexuality with attacking children and.. why? .. this is about people who attack kids and no amount of jail time will rehabilitate them (20 years can go by).. so when they get out, they will attack again... and alot of them DO NOT seek therapy or help or even want to be helped... and why shouldnt the neighborhood know about this? gay people do not attack children (unless they are pedophiles) and... i dunno why you would tie the 2 together..... and no, i personally do not have the 'me, my, and I' attitude, that kinda attitude that says 'if it's not my backyard, i dont care' ..... how would u feel if your neighbor, who is a sex offender, offers to babysit your kids? .. are u saying you would graciously give him a job? im just asking ... [/b] ditto  Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. | |
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PANDURITO said: JLB8, the rapper
Some of the posters above must be dead by now Chris Morris is a genius. Hard to believe they ever managed to broadcast that on British TV, but I'm glad they did. The whole Brass Eye series was brilliant.
Outrage!
One of the ppl commenting reminded me of what followed in the newspapers. The Daily Star ran an article decrying Morris & the show next to a piece about the then 15-year-old Charlotte Church's breasts under the headline "She's a big girl now". The Daily Mail featured pics of Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, who were 13 and 11 at the time, in their bikinis next to a headline describing Brass Eye as "Unspeakably Sick".
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Shorty said: ehuffnsd said: i wasn't abused by a stranger but someone my family knew. these lists don't do anything except make people live in fear. I'm very sorry you were abused. did your family know he/she was an abuser? I'm guessing probably not, if they had a list like this then perhaps someone would have looked them up and found out. I understand that if he/she had never been convicted b4 they wouldn't be on the list, but I don't agree that it does nothing but make people live in fear. We are all more aware of sex crimes against children these days than we were in the past. As a parent, I do fear this happening to my child, but not because of the list....but because I now know how frequently it happens. If anything it probably gives a false sense of saftey. I don't teach my children to live in fear, but I do teach them to not let ANYONE EVER touch them on their private parts, and that their body is theirs alone...NO ONE else's. CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE Approximately 20% to 25% of women and 5% to 15% of men were sexually abused when they were children.[11][12][13][14][15] Most sexual abuse offenders are acquainted with their victims; approximately 30% are relatives of the child, most often fathers, uncles or cousins; around 60% are other acquaintances such as friends of the family, babysitters, or neighbors; strangers are the offenders in approximately 10% of child sexual abuse cases. Most child sexual abuse is committed by men; women commit approximately 14% of offenses reported against boys and 6% of offenses reported against girls.[11] Most offenders who abuse pre-pubescent children are pedophiles,[16][17] however a small percentage do not meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia.[18] Under the law, "child sexual abuse" is an umbrella term describing criminal and civil offenses in which an adult engages in sexual activity with a minor or exploits a minor for the purpose of sexual gratification.[19][4] The American Psychiatric Association states that "children cannot consent to sexual activity with adults",[20][21] and condemns any such action: "An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act which never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior."[20] [b][Edited 8/28/08 17:35pm] I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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im a sex offender and i'm taking offense | |
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Freakmebaby said: im a sex offender and i'm taking offense
is this rolling?  | |
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horatio said: Freakmebaby said: im a sex offender and i'm taking offense
is this rolling? why? are you his girlfriend? | |
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Freakmebaby said: horatio said: is this rolling? why? are you his girlfriend? | |
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horatio said: Freakmebaby said: why? are you his girlfriend?  | |
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Anxiety said: Shorty said: why not? i don't support registry web sites either. i think if i'm a good parent, like i said earlier, i would treat every stranger in my neighborhood as a potential danger, PLUS i think those who have not been apprehended yet are more of a threat than those who have been identified as sex offenders. therefore, i don't see how it's my business to violate someone else's privacy when they've already been punished for their crimes and they're trying to return to some kind of normalcy in their lives. whether i see their name on a list or not, i'd take the same protective measures for my kids either way. meanwhile, i'm not really invested in ostracizing anyone in my neighborhood and i'm not particularly interested in raising hysteria or paranoia in the comfort of my own home. i'm sure this whole registry idea scratches a moral and emotional itch, but i think it's uncivilized, unconstitutional and ultimately unnecessary. and yes, i know that's not a popular opinion. but it's still my opinion. OH WELL. Anx...it's ultimately not about ostracizing a criminal...it's about providing parents with information. First of all, when a registered sex offender moves in to a neighborhood, a neon sign doesn't get plastered over his home. The local school district sends our flyers TO PARENTS OF CHILDREN IN THE VICINITY. The fact that you see this as ultimately unnecessary simply reflects your inability to relate to the matter. Personally I could care LESS about stem cell research or the Georgia/South Ossetia conflict because it doesn't affect me. Doesn't make us worng or right, just makes us human. However, I have three grammar school-age children and live in a predominantly lower-income area...prime relocation area for felons...so I have a vested interest in this subject. I previously stated the issue that happened 2 blocks down from me. I can assure you that his parents didn't think the notification to be "unnecessary". By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory! | |
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Freakmebaby said: im a sex offender and i'm taking offense
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I wouldn't feel a bit bad about it. I think that sex offenders are who wears the scarlet today. I know I hear that they become repeat offenders, but until they do it again, it's we who have to curtail our view of them as offenders. Anyone that gets sick at a sex offender moving near them, though, needs to go talk to a therapist or something, straight up, cuz I don't think it's normal to get sick at something like that. | |
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ehuffnsd said: psychodelicide said: I'm wondering about the nude beaches too. Cali seems like a pretty laid back, pretty much anything goes kinda place. Seems kind of strange that they would label someone a sex offender for being on a nude beach. But what do I know, since I don't actually live there? they are closing down one of the nude beaches this weekend, San Onfre, because straight people were getting it on in the parking lot. even though it's a majority gay nude beach. edit nevermind a judge ok'ed people to be nude at san onfre. [Edited 8/29/08 9:15am]   RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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