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Thread started 08/28/08 8:26am

sextonseven

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9-year-old pitcher banned from little league for being too good

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9-year-old barred for pitching too well

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) - Nine-year-old Jericho Scott is a good baseball player — too good, it turns out.

The right-hander has a fastball that tops out at about 40 mph. He throws so hard that the Youth Baseball League of New Haven told his coach that the boy could not pitch any more. When Jericho took the mound anyway last week, the opposing team forfeited the game, packed its gear and left, his coach said.

Officials for the three-year-old league, which has eight teams and about 100 players, said they will disband Jericho's team, redistributing its players among other squads, and offered to refund $50 sign-up fees to anyone who asks for it. They say Jericho's coach, Wilfred Vidro, has resigned.

But Vidro says he didn't quit and the team refuses to disband. Players and parents held a protest at the league's field on Saturday urging the league to let Jericho pitch.

"He's never hurt any one," Vidro said. "He's on target all the time. How can you punish a kid for being too good?"

The controversy bothers Jericho, who says he misses pitching.

"I feel sad," he said. "I feel like it's all my fault nobody could play."

Jericho's coach and parents say the boy is being unfairly targeted because he turned down an invitation to join the defending league champion, which is sponsored by an employer of one of the league's administrators.

Jericho instead joined a team sponsored by Will Power Fitness. The team was 8-0 and on its way to the playoffs when Jericho was banned from pitching.

"I think it's discouraging when you're telling a 9-year-old you're too good at something," said his mother, Nicole Scott. "The whole objective in life is to find something you're good at and stick with it. I'd rather he spend all his time on the baseball field than idolizing someone standing on the street corner."

League attorney Peter Noble says the only factor in banning Jericho from the mound is his pitches are just too fast.

"He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower," Noble said. "There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport."

Noble acknowledged that Jericho had not beaned any batters in the co-ed league of 8- to 10-year-olds, but say parents expressed safety concerns.

"Facing that kind of speed" is frightening for beginning players, Noble said.

League officials say they first told Vidro that the boy could not pitch after a game on Aug. 13. Jericho played second base the next game on Aug. 16. But when he took the mound Wednesday, the other team walked off and a forfeit was called.

League officials say Jericho's mother became irate, threatening them and vowing to get the league shut down.

"I have never seen behavior of a parent like the behavior Jericho's mother exhibited Wednesday night," Noble said.

Scott denies threatening any one, but said she did call the police.

League officials suggested that Jericho play other positions, or pitch against older players or in a different league.

Local attorney John Williams was planning to meet with Jericho's parents Monday to discuss legal options.

"You don't have to be learned in the law to know in your heart that it's wrong," he said. "Now you have to be punished because you excel at something?"


Parents of some opposing players say Jericho Scott's 40 mph fastball is too intimidating. (Douglas Healey / Associated Press)
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Reply #1 posted 08/28/08 8:43am

horatio

do you work for MSN?
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Reply #2 posted 08/28/08 8:45am

sextonseven

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horatio said:

do you work for MSN?


I get paid to post quirky news items on the org specifically.
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Reply #3 posted 08/28/08 8:49am

Efan

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You know, my opinion on who was right and who was wrong changed practically sentence by sentence in this story. I have no idea which side of this to be on.
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Reply #4 posted 08/28/08 8:54am

Genesia

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Efan said:

You know, my opinion on who was right and who was wrong changed practically sentence by sentence in this story. I have no idea which side of this to be on.


Let me help you: Be on the side of talent and hard work - instead of the side that wants to coddle mediocrity.
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Reply #5 posted 08/28/08 8:55am

Stymie

Genesia said:

Efan said:

You know, my opinion on who was right and who was wrong changed practically sentence by sentence in this story. I have no idea which side of this to be on.


Let me help you: Be on the side of talent and hard work - instead of the side that wants to coddle mediocrity.
clapping Some grownups need to be ashamed of themselves.
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Reply #6 posted 08/28/08 9:04am

Efan

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Genesia said:

Efan said:

You know, my opinion on who was right and who was wrong changed practically sentence by sentence in this story. I have no idea which side of this to be on.


Let me help you: Be on the side of talent and hard work - instead of the side that wants to coddle mediocrity.


Yeah, believe me, that's where I was leaning just from the headline. And the thing about who sponsors the team put me more on his side too.

But then I started wondering if some of the parents weren't just concerned about the safety of their kids facing his fast pitches. It's a chance you take in allowing kids to participate in sports, I guess, but it's a consideration.

And then I got to the part about the mother's behavior and thought of the obnoxious way parents go over the top when they watch their kids play sports. She called the police? Really? Over a Little League game?

Yes, I agree with you that a talented kid who works hard deserves to play. And if it's just about other parents not wanting him to pitch because they don't want their own teams to lose, or about the corporate sponsorship, then hell yeah, I'm on the kid's side. I was just saying the article had me going back and forth a little bit.
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Reply #7 posted 08/28/08 9:04am

RodeoSchro

What a bunch of pussies.
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Reply #8 posted 08/28/08 9:14am

Genesia

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RodeoSchro said:

What a bunch of pussies.


And then there's that. lol
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Reply #9 posted 08/28/08 9:14am

horatio

when i heard this on the radio, someones kid said that all the kids were scared to play with with this boy as the pitcher.
what it sounds like to me is that the parents are jealous that their kid isnt the star baseball player they want them to be, so they have taken down the other kids ability by instilling fear in everyone.
typical
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Reply #10 posted 08/28/08 9:15am

RodeoSchro

Genesia said:

RodeoSchro said:

What a bunch of pussies.


And then there's that. lol


If any of those wimps had any sack, not only would they let the kid pitch but they would INSIST their kid get to bat against him as often as possible.

That's how you get good.
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Reply #11 posted 08/28/08 9:19am

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sextonseven said:

horatio said:

do you work for MSN?


I get paid to post quirky news items on the org specifically.


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Reply #12 posted 08/28/08 9:19am

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Efan said:

You know, my opinion on who was right and who was wrong changed practically sentence by sentence in this story. I have no idea which side of this to be on.


comfort That sucks.

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Reply #13 posted 08/28/08 9:20am

Genesia

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RodeoSchro said:

Genesia said:



And then there's that. lol


If any of those wimps had any sack, not only would they let the kid pitch but they would INSIST their kid get to bat against him as often as possible.

That's how you get good.


nod

And the thing is: who, in a competitive or performance situation, isn't scared? Scared that they'll fail, scared that they'll get hurt, scared that they'll be made to look foolish? That's part of learning to play the game - whether the game is baseball or a spelling bee or a solo in the school concert or a part in the school play.

People who don't learn to handle that as kids are people who end up terrified to give a presentation at work or talk to a new client or ask the boss for a raise.
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Reply #14 posted 08/28/08 9:21am

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horatio said:

when i heard this on the radio, someones kid said that all the kids were scared to play with with this boy as the pitcher.
what it sounds like to me is that the parents are jealous that their kid isnt the star baseball player they want them to be, so they have taken down the other kids ability by instilling fear in everyone.
typical


scared that they would strike out.

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Reply #15 posted 08/28/08 10:16am

horatio

superspaceboy said:

horatio said:

when i heard this on the radio, someones kid said that all the kids were scared to play with with this boy as the pitcher.
what it sounds like to me is that the parents are jealous that their kid isnt the star baseball player they want them to be, so they have taken down the other kids ability by instilling fear in everyone.
typical


scared that they would strike out.



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Reply #16 posted 08/28/08 11:34am

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We've been talking about this all week at work. It's sad that we live in a time where parents are so worried about making their kids feel like winners that when a kid comes along with a natural talent he's banned. What kind of message is that? I am so tired of this pc world and "everyone" is a winner mentality. We are making it so hard for kids to deal with the reality that, you DON'T always win. It's OK to lose. Learn from it and move on.


And that is MY two cents thumbs up!
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Reply #17 posted 08/28/08 11:36am

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Fuck those bitches. Their kids shouldn't suck.
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Reply #18 posted 08/28/08 11:38am

dseann

eVeRsOlEsA said:

We've been talking about this all week at work. It's sad that we live in a time where parents are so worried about making their kids feel like winners that when a kid comes along with a natural talent he's banned. What kind of message is that? I am so tired of this pc world and "everyone" is a winner mentality. We are making it so hard for kids to deal with the reality that, you DON'T always win. It's OK to lose. Learn from it and move on.


And that is MY two cents thumbs up!


Actually you don't have to be so modest. Your two cents are worth about $1 million on this topic. lol
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Reply #19 posted 08/28/08 11:40am

dseann

eVeRsOlEsA said:

We've been talking about this all week at work. It's sad that we live in a time where parents are so worried about making their kids feel like winners that when a kid comes along with a natural talent he's banned. What kind of message is that? I am so tired of this pc world and "everyone" is a winner mentality. We are making it so hard for kids to deal with the reality that, you DON'T always win. It's OK to lose. Learn from it and move on.


And that is MY two cents thumbs up!
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Reply #20 posted 08/28/08 11:42am

Timmy84

First they tell some 10-year-old boy that he can't play in blues bars because of his talent now this...
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Reply #21 posted 08/28/08 11:56am

Stymie

Mars23 said:

Fuck those bitches. Their kids shouldn't suck.
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Reply #22 posted 08/28/08 12:16pm

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Can't the boy move up a level or two? He would then be stretched and the mediocre children can play with themselves. Everyone's a winner.

smile
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Reply #23 posted 08/28/08 12:17pm

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mcmeekle said:

Can't the boy move up a level or two? He would then be stretched and the mediocre children can play with themselves. Everyone's a winner.

smile

That didn't come out right....

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Reply #24 posted 08/28/08 12:19pm

Genesia

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Mars23 said:

Fuck those bitches. Their kids shouldn't suck.


Yeah! Tell 'em to put on their big girl panties and stand in there! mad
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Reply #25 posted 08/28/08 12:24pm

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mcmeekle said:

mcmeekle said:

Can't the boy move up a level or two? He would then be stretched and the mediocre children can play with themselves. Everyone's a winner.

smile

That didn't come out right....

confused



lol

But I agree, why hold the talented kid back and not move him ahead so that he could be challenged and get better.
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Reply #26 posted 08/28/08 3:11pm

july

I remember the games back in the late 1970's early 80's. When I was 9 thru age 12.

Pop ups balls into the fan area. If you gave the ball back you got something free form the concessions stand.

People getting hit in the backs. Sliding into home plate, second base. Bats flying. Nobody died.
Just tough kids.

The mosquitos could kill ya.
There were older tough kids in the crowd too. You might get stabbed.
On the field in uniform was the safest place really.

Kids crying would walk it off. If you got hurt real bad. There was the Ambulance.

Now this was just Baseball. All on a summer a evening. I think the kid should be allowed to play.
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Reply #27 posted 08/28/08 3:31pm

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mcmeekle said:

mcmeekle said:

Can't the boy move up a level or two? He would then be stretched and the mediocre children can play with themselves. Everyone's a winner.

smile

That didn't come out right....

confused


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Reply #28 posted 08/28/08 3:33pm

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sextonseven said:

horatio said:

do you work for MSN?


I get paid to post quirky news items on the org specifically.

lol


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