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Reply #30 posted 08/28/08 9:57am

Byron

Thanks for the kind words Genesia, toots and superspaceboy rose...I don't want it to sound like I'm perfect, though, or anything of the sort (hopefully it didn't). I give all the credit in the world to my ex-wife...she had to come to grips with who I am, who "we" really were together, and she had to find the strength to forgive me and even herself (to a smaller degree). That she was able to do all those things is what helped us create that type of environment that allowed both of us to move forward and have the type of relationship that I described above. I'll never forget or overlook that when it comes to her...
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Reply #31 posted 08/28/08 10:01am

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I guess it depends on how much the couple grosses each month

700.00 seems reasonable
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Reply #32 posted 08/28/08 10:03am

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Byron said:

Thanks for the kind words Genesia, toots and superspaceboy rose...I don't want it to sound like I'm perfect, though, or anything of the sort (hopefully it didn't). I give all the credit in the world to my ex-wife...she had to come to grips with who I am, who "we" really were together, and she had to find the strength to forgive me and even herself (to a smaller degree). That she was able to do all those things is what helped us create that type of environment that allowed both of us to move forward and have the type of relationship that I described above. I'll never forget or overlook that when it comes to her...


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Reply #33 posted 08/28/08 10:06am

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Wow. Lame.

All my son's father has to do is pay a measly $265 a month and he doesn't even do that. He just fucks off and does his own thing - doesn't give a shit about his son at all - since he makes no effort to see him or even check up on him.

And he thinks that he's paying WAAAAY too much a month too (when he actually does pay it - which he hasn't in months). lol

I'll never feel sorry for those that complain that they have to pay child support. They usually have no idea just how much the full time parents has to spend to maintain a household.
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Reply #34 posted 08/28/08 10:08am

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JustErin said:

Wow. Lame.

All my son's father has to do is pay a measly $265 a month and he doesn't even do that. He just fucks off and does his own thing - doesn't give a shit about his son at all - since he makes no effort to see him or even check up on him.

And he thinks that he's paying WAAAAY too much a month too (when he actually does pay it - which he hasn't in months). lol

I'll never feel sorry for those that complain that they have to pay child support. They usually have no idea just how much the full time parents has to spend to maintain a household.
Exactly. And I don't think they care.
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Reply #35 posted 08/28/08 10:14am

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Stymie said:

JustErin said:

Wow. Lame.

All my son's father has to do is pay a measly $265 a month and he doesn't even do that. He just fucks off and does his own thing - doesn't give a shit about his son at all - since he makes no effort to see him or even check up on him.

And he thinks that he's paying WAAAAY too much a month too (when he actually does pay it - which he hasn't in months). lol

I'll never feel sorry for those that complain that they have to pay child support. They usually have no idea just how much the full time parents has to spend to maintain a household.
Exactly. And I don't think they care.


Obviously they don't. It's pathetic. They are pathetic.

That tiny bit of money doesn't even cover the cost of my son having a room in my place.

That's just his shelter cost and it doesn't even cover that.
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Reply #36 posted 08/28/08 10:16am

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JustErin said:

Wow. Lame.

All my son's father has to do is pay a measly $265 a month and he doesn't even do that. He just fucks off and does his own thing - doesn't give a shit about his son at all - since he makes no effort to see him or even check up on him.

And he thinks that he's paying WAAAAY too much a month too (when he actually does pay it - which he hasn't in months). lol

I'll never feel sorry for those that complain that they have to pay child support. They usually have no idea just how much the full time parents has to spend to maintain a household.


Wow Erin pat

I feel bad for your son I honestly do.

IMHO If they dont want to help support a child I say put a raincoat on nod
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Reply #37 posted 08/28/08 10:21am

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yeah...sounds like she's just mad. I mean if he went to court and all that and 700 is what they came up with..then they should be able to swing it. She really doesn't have a place to complain....if she didn't want this to be an issue in her life...she perhaps should not have taken him back. They could always fight for more custody? Usually the price (you pay to the ex) goes down the more you actually have the child in your care, ofcourse you still pay cause now you have to take care of the child...but it must seem easier when you're paying to support your household rather than just forking over 700 bucks.

do they have kids together too?
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"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #38 posted 08/28/08 10:23am

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toots said:

JustErin said:

Wow. Lame.

All my son's father has to do is pay a measly $265 a month and he doesn't even do that. He just fucks off and does his own thing - doesn't give a shit about his son at all - since he makes no effort to see him or even check up on him.

And he thinks that he's paying WAAAAY too much a month too (when he actually does pay it - which he hasn't in months). lol

I'll never feel sorry for those that complain that they have to pay child support. They usually have no idea just how much the full time parents has to spend to maintain a household.


Wow Erin pat

I feel bad for your son I honestly do.

IMHO If they dont want to help support a child I say put a raincoat on nod

yeah...poor lil man! His dad is missing out on a great experience, and he is depriving his son of a great experience too. sad I hope someday he makes amends somehow sad
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #39 posted 08/28/08 10:47am

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Shorty said:

toots said:



Wow Erin pat

I feel bad for your son I honestly do.

IMHO If they dont want to help support a child I say put a raincoat on nod

yeah...poor lil man! His dad is missing out on a great experience, and he is depriving his son of a great experience too. sad I hope someday he makes amends somehow sad


Thing is, even though he's not the best influence on my son - I never cut him out of our lives because I felt it was really important for him to know his father. Actually, you wouldn't believe just how accommodating I have been with this guy - working around his schedule, not going after him for certain things he owes, etc.

However, after 3 years of him paying then not paying, seeing him (at a bare minimum) then deciding to not see him for how ever long he wants to fuck off, I told him that he needs to at least pay up the money he owes me for recent months or he is no longer welcome to see his son - at all.

Since saying that I have received no money and have not heard a word from him. He could be dead for all I know.

Luckily my son is surrounded by many others who love him.
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Reply #40 posted 08/28/08 10:48am

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Shorty said:

yeah...sounds like she's just mad. I mean if he went to court and all that and 700 is what they came up with..then they should be able to swing it. She really doesn't have a place to complain....if she didn't want this to be an issue in her life...she perhaps should not have taken him back. They could always fight for more custody? Usually the price (you pay to the ex) goes down the more you actually have the child in your care, ofcourse you still pay cause now you have to take care of the child...but it must seem easier when you're paying to support your household rather than just forking over 700 bucks.

do they have kids together too?
[Edited 8/28/08 10:21am]


I think she has a place to complain...and that's to her husband. This sounds like he slipped and found out after they got back together...though that would be THE reason to break up again, if he did that to me.

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Reply #41 posted 08/28/08 10:51am

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JustErin said:

Shorty said:


yeah...poor lil man! His dad is missing out on a great experience, and he is depriving his son of a great experience too. sad I hope someday he makes amends somehow sad


Thing is, even though he's not the best influence on my son - I never cut him out of our lives because I felt it was really important for him to know his father. Actually, you wouldn't believe just how accommodating I have been with this guy - working around his schedule, not going after him for certain things he owes, etc.

However, after 3 years of him paying then not paying, seeing him (at a bare minimum) then deciding to not see him for how ever long he wants to fuck off, I told him that he needs to at least pay up the money he owes me for recent months or he is no longer welcome to see his son - at all.

Since saying that I have received no money and have not heard a word from him. He could be dead for all I know.

Luckily my son is surrounded by many others who love him.


It's good you put your foot down. My mom did that with my dad and he simply left the state.

You know, sometimes it's not about the money, it's about giving a shit about your son. And seeing your kid periodically whenever just can't be good for anyone. I say good riddance to bad rubbish!

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Reply #42 posted 08/28/08 10:55am

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superspaceboy said:

JustErin said:



Thing is, even though he's not the best influence on my son - I never cut him out of our lives because I felt it was really important for him to know his father. Actually, you wouldn't believe just how accommodating I have been with this guy - working around his schedule, not going after him for certain things he owes, etc.

However, after 3 years of him paying then not paying, seeing him (at a bare minimum) then deciding to not see him for how ever long he wants to fuck off, I told him that he needs to at least pay up the money he owes me for recent months or he is no longer welcome to see his son - at all.

Since saying that I have received no money and have not heard a word from him. He could be dead for all I know.

Luckily my son is surrounded by many others who love him.


It's good you put your foot down. My mom did that with my dad and he simply left the state.

You know, sometimes it's not about the money, it's about giving a shit about your son. And seeing your kid periodically whenever just can't be good for anyone. I say good riddance to bad rubbish!




Ya, really I wish he would just disappear altogether forever, but my son does love him....and I will not allow him to get away with abandoning his son - at least financially.

Lawyers will be on his ass very soon.

Oh, and another thing. I asked him to sign away his parental rights so I could protect my son from his erratic behaviour and he said he would never do that. confused

So basically, if he shows up at my door, I have no right to say he can't take my son away...I only have the right to then go after him if he doesn't bring him back. Scary stuff.
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Reply #43 posted 08/28/08 11:01am

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Erin,
Sounds like your doing a wonderful job with your son, IMHO.All you can do is do your best nod
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Reply #44 posted 08/28/08 11:02am

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toots said:

Erin,
Sounds like your doing a wonderful job with your son, IMHO.All you can do is do your best nod


Thanks!

I try my best!
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Reply #45 posted 08/28/08 11:21am

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superspaceboy said:

Byron said:

I have a set amount I pay for child support that my ex-wife and I agreed upon, and if more is ever needed I gladly pay that as well. If I'm ever short or will need to pay late, my ex understands and doesn't complain. We trust each other completely. If I find myself having a higher than usual flow of income for awhile, I send more without being asked or needed to do so. That happened last Thanksgiving and Xmas, and my ex kept saying "Why are you sending me so much?" and laughing lol...I just said "Because I have it, and you have our daughter". If I hear of "extras" coming up in our daughter's life (prom dress, drivers ed classes, whatever), I try to pay for those on top of what I usually pay per month. And my daughter knows she can always call me and ask if I can send $20 (or whatever amount) so that she can by a new purse or something lol lol...I pretty much always say yes. mr.green And I'm thankful that she rarely feels a need to ask (now that she's working she never asks anymore lol). I only went thru one moment where my ex was unreasonable about child support, but it lasted one phone call and she apologized like 30 minutes later, and I put it behind me.

I'm sure your friend's irritation is due more towards the emotions she feels at knowing her husband fathered a child with another woman, even if it was during their separation, than it is at the dollar amount.


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So true.
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Reply #46 posted 08/28/08 11:23am

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JustErin said:

Wow. Lame.

All my son's father has to do is pay a measly $265 a month and he doesn't even do that. He just fucks off and does his own thing - doesn't give a shit about his son at all - since he makes no effort to see him or even check up on him.

And he thinks that he's paying WAAAAY too much a month too (when he actually does pay it - which he hasn't in months). lol

I'll never feel sorry for those that complain that they have to pay child support. They usually have no idea just how much the full time parents has to spend to maintain a household.


That stinks. But your son has you, and that's a lot.
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Reply #47 posted 08/28/08 11:24am

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Everyone. I have a friend who is married. Her spouse has a child (outside the marriage) that was conceived while they were "separated" for a time.
He was recently ordered to pay $700.00 a months for child support and SHE (my friend) is griping about this- complaining that it is too much.

What the hell?! For some reason people (mainly men) are stuck on "$500.00 is enough[/i]" bullshit. While I agree that the kid will not starve if she gets $500.00 per month I fail to see how $700.00 is too much. For $700.00 a month HE gets to have someone ELSE take this kid to daycare/school... pick him up from daycare/school. He gets someone to stay home with his ass when he's sick.. evening care, meals 3 times a day... and babydaddy doesn't have to do any of this. For his $700.00, HE gets to focus on rebuilding his marriage and only has to play daddy every other weekend and send the kid home with a bag full on dirty laundry when his weekend is over.
Now because I disagreed with this friend of mine saying that I WISH I had someone to do all that for me for ONLY $700.00 a months, she is mad at me because I "sided with the other woman." I was like "maybe we shouldn't talk about stuff like this anymore." But seriously, Who the hell thinks that $700.00 a month is too much for child support? I am not talking aout just buying shoes and lunches (which is all she's thinking about in my opinion). Time is what I am talking about; doesn't TIME has value too?
wow.


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Reply #48 posted 08/28/08 11:30am

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superspaceboy said:

Shorty said:

yeah...sounds like she's just mad. I mean if he went to court and all that and 700 is what they came up with..then they should be able to swing it. She really doesn't have a place to complain....if she didn't want this to be an issue in her life...she perhaps should not have taken him back. They could always fight for more custody? Usually the price (you pay to the ex) goes down the more you actually have the child in your care, ofcourse you still pay cause now you have to take care of the child...but it must seem easier when you're paying to support your household rather than just forking over 700 bucks.

do they have kids together too?
[Edited 8/28/08 10:21am]


I think she has a place to complain...and that's to her husband. This sounds like he slipped and found out after they got back together...though that would be THE reason to break up again, if he did that to me.

very true!
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Reply #49 posted 08/28/08 11:35am

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JustErin said:

Shorty said:


yeah...poor lil man! His dad is missing out on a great experience, and he is depriving his son of a great experience too. sad I hope someday he makes amends somehow sad


Thing is, even though he's not the best influence on my son - I never cut him out of our lives because I felt it was really important for him to know his father. Actually, you wouldn't believe just how accommodating I have been with this guy - working around his schedule, not going after him for certain things he owes, etc.

However, after 3 years of him paying then not paying, seeing him (at a bare minimum) then deciding to not see him for how ever long he wants to fuck off, I told him that he needs to at least pay up the money he owes me for recent months or he is no longer welcome to see his son - at all.

Since saying that I have received no money and have not heard a word from him. He could be dead for all I know.

Luckily my son is surrounded by many others who love him.

sad it breaks my heart to think about your son's situation. You are doing what you have to do and thank God he has you to count on. I can only speak from experience but the worst thing in the world to me as a child was disapointment from a parent...very heartbreaking. Keep strong Erin, and great job!
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #50 posted 08/28/08 12:39pm

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alwayslate said:

Everyone. I have a friend who is married. Her spouse has a child (outside the marriage) that was conceived while they were "separated" for a time.
He was recently ordered to pay $700.00 a months for child support and SHE (my friend) is griping about this- complaining that it is too much.

What the hell?! For some reason people (mainly men) are stuck on "$500.00 is enough[/i]" bullshit. While I agree that the kid will not starve if she gets $500.00 per month I fail to see how $700.00 is too much. For $700.00 a month HE gets to have someone ELSE take this kid to daycare/school... pick him up from daycare/school. He gets someone to stay home with his ass when he's sick.. evening care, meals 3 times a day... and babydaddy doesn't have to do any of this. For his $700.00, HE gets to focus on rebuilding his marriage and only has to play daddy every other weekend and send the kid home with a bag full on dirty laundry when his weekend is over.
Now because I disagreed with this friend of mine saying that I WISH I had someone to do all that for me for ONLY $700.00 a months, she is mad at me because I "sided with the other woman." I was like "maybe we shouldn't talk about stuff like this anymore." But seriously, Who the hell thinks that $700.00 a month is too much for child support? I am not talking aout just buying shoes and lunches (which is all she's thinking about in my opinion). Time is what I am talking about; doesn't TIME has value too?
wow.


I wish somebody could cut her (the wife's) living allowance down to $700 a month, and then after that we will see if she feels $700 is enough. Folks are friggin ridiculous sometimes. What a lame ass....and I am referring to her for being willing to withhold what should be child's birthright, and for trying to encourage the father to be stingy with his own blood. Why should she be living better than the child he created? So she wants to take that other $200 for what...a pair of stilletos? The child didn't choose to be in her husbands life, but she on the other had made a choice. If the husband had any sense, he would tell her to back the f--- up and not tamper with his child's well being.
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